How much are they altering the Country Bear Jamboree?

[cheezbat]

To those of you that don’t care for Country Bears or Carousel of Progress…go to Disneyland instead.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

To those of you that don’t care for Country Bears or Carousel of Progress…go to Disneyland instead.

Well there you go.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Your visit was after the announcement in a time many will visit *because* Disney announced a change. It's the effect of "this is my last trip for a while and might be the last time I see this version." For many years CBJ has been something someone could time the next show and then walk up and right into the theater. While that's great for guests that want to see the show, it's not ideal to Disney. Management wants to see guests waiting in line because it pulls folks off walkways. With Bayou Adventure coming Disney needs CBJ to do better and absorb people waiting around for Bayou Adventure (either for own call back times or for others in party riding while some of party doesn’t).

My preference is original music specific for attraction but without that I don't see much difference between Disney and nonDisney source materials. I don't think Disney songs will be more popular but that the decision is ultimately about not paying out licensing or royalties (not sure correct term) to nonDisney people when they can instead pay another Disney subsidiary.

The CBJ songs themselves are iconic though. They have sort of created their own brand. What I like about CBJ among many things is that it was a product of a creative Disney era. I really am not sure what empty barns you are talking about with CBJ, they are always pretty full or close to full when I've been there over the years. I really don't get what anyone thinks they can put in there that will be better. Modern Disney is not exactly known for its creativity and decisions that add more for the guests, or spread out the lines. Think Snow White being taken away years ago for a meet and greet. My question to the critics of the Bears is what exactly would be a better fit in such a small place that fits better with the theme of Frontierland than them? There are washrooms at WDW nearly the size of CBJ. And yet it still draws people.

They should have learned from their mistakes and oh yeah, we had this..

That didn't age well. Nor do I remember it being liked even at the time it was happening. Can't say they've learned anything.

Ironic that CBJ is often considered Walt's last thing he approved. It was a raw, raw draft of things that he would have seen, but it is in the mold of Tiki Birds and I don't doubt would be right up his alley.

 

[Tjaden]

Have him ride it when he's 16 and see what he thinks. Those are rides that little kids fall for but when they get old enough to see how crappy the animatronics are they quickly move them to the group of attractions to skip.

Yes, the kid favorite CoP.

Can us olds not have one attraction that we can enjoy that might not be the favorite of 16-year-olds (though it was my favorite at 16 along with SSE)?

 

[BuddyThomas]

So I feel the recent trip we did might be the last time we see the Bears as we know them. The songs, maybe even the characters themselves could change forever. This is very unnecessary and just makes the attraction inferior if they start adding Disney IP songs. It is as if they don't "get" Frontierland and the charm it is supposed to have. So what is the change and how much of the show is being cut?

“Around here, however, we don’t look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things… and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.” –Walt Disney

 

[Chef Mickey]

“Around here, however, we don’t look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things… and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.” –Walt Disney

That’s all great unless you’re headed down the wrong pass. See Disney’s stock headed to $60 after a string of decisions on said path.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

“Around here, however, we don’t look backwards for very long. We keep moving forward, opening up new doors and doing new things… and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths.” –Walt Disney

I'll ask again, exactly why do people feel that Frontierland should be "modernized"? The entire point of that land is that it is a blast from the past, a bygone era.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I'll ask again, exactly why do people feel that Frontierland should be "modernized"? The entire point of that land is that it is a blast from the past, a bygone era.

Bc they’ll always find some reason to call it offensive, non inclusive, or all the other nonsense we all know. Nothing can ever be just fun and not so serious anymore.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I'll ask again, exactly why do people feel that Frontierland should be "modernized"? The entire point of that land is that it is a blast from the past, a bygone era.

I guess you forgot to read Walt’s quote. If you think every single thing should stay exactly the same as it ever was, you’re vacationing in the wrong place.

 

[BuddyThomas]

That’s all great unless you’re headed down the wrong pass. See Disney’s stock headed to $60 after a string of decisions on said path.

If ya don’t like it, don’t go.

 

[Chef Mickey]

If ya don’t like it, don’t go.

Nice cop out, but we’re on a discussion board.

 

[Chef Mickey]

I guess you forgot to read Walt’s quote. If you think every single thing should stay exactly the same as it ever was, you’re vacationing in the wrong place.

That wasn’t the point.

 

[SteveAZee]

I'll ask again, exactly why do people feel that Frontierland should be "modernized"? The entire point of that land is that it is a blast from the past, a bygone era.

I guess I look at Frontierland as a 1950's/1960's take on the frontier... i.e. the western expansion. I don't think anyone wants a "Deadwood" version of the old west in the parks, so I'm guessing it's more interest/nostalgia for the Disneyfied version of it as seen on TV, and updating the music to recent IP-based songs might be a little jarring.

 

[networkpro]

I guess I look at Frontierland as a 1950's/1960's take on the frontier... i.e. the western expansion. I don't think anyone wants a "Deadwood" version of the old west in the parks, so I'm guessing it's more interest/nostalgia for the Disneyfied version of it as seen on TV, and updating the music to recent IP-based songs might be a little jarring.

It is, the frontier was a westward-moving target.

 

[celluloid]

Thank god they're changing it. Outdated and needing a refresh, The Country Bear Jamboree needs re-imagined for future generations. I say add contemporary country and pop tunes; and modernize the bears to get rid of the hick accents and rural stereotypes.

It's amazing how you want to rid stereotypes and use the slur for country person in the same post.

 

[Chef Mickey]

It's amazing how you want to rid stereotypes and use the slur for country person in the same post.

Standard in virtue signaling. In reality, life is full of stereotypes and normal people aren't offended by things that are all in good fun. No one is making fun of southerners in the CBJ.

 

[celluloid]

Standard in virtue signaling. In reality, life is full of stereotypes and normal people aren't offended by things that are all in good fun. No one is making fun of southerners in the CBJ.

Well said. Anyone who thinks so, clearly must have hatred or some condescending feelings towards people with a draw.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Oh, if we only heard the full version of Big Al's song in the show instead of the first verse and see the children's reaction to it...


Theater's reaction to just about the 3rd verse in the show of Big Al's song..

Other fun Fact this song was sung by Tex Ritter...John Ritter's of Three's Company fame's father..

 

[celluloid]

Oh, if we only heard the full version of Big Al's song in the show instead of the first verse and see the children's reaction to it...


Theater's reaction to just about the 3rd verse in the show of Big Al's song..

Other fun Fact this song was sung by Tex Ritter...John Ritter's of Three's Company fame's father..

That's a good reminder of how smartly written the show is. The bears know it's coming and drowned this downer out by this point.
Kind of how I comedy often another character will censor via interruption.
(ala Lion King when Timon cuts Pumba off before he can rhyme hearted)

 

[BuddyThomas]

Nice cop out, but we’re on a discussion board.

No kidding - a Disney discussion board packed with Disney haters.