How do you handle the nonbelievers?

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Except that isn't what she asked... Just sayin'. She also didnt say she wouldn't be willing to go elsewhere, and clearly the family has vacationed other places. Though I again very much sympathize about the added anxiousness of her child. But at the same time, obviously that is also a decision her and her husband made to try elsewhere together. It was a deal they both agreed upon.

I feel with your post like you are suggesting/scolding anyone who says "it's ok for people to not like Disney or not want to go to Disney 14 years in a row" because that suddenly means we didnt think of her child. It's an "I'm holier than thou" approach. But for instance, a really unhappy parent who is tired of Disney and wants a change occasionally might not necessarily be best for the child either. Just one example I can think of for why encouraging continuing to alternate who picks is a good idea, especially with a family member who doesn't enjoy Disney.
It wasn't meant to come off that way. It was meant to say, "please take that into consideration!" You should read my earlier post about alternating and potentially leaving the kids home. She also said she tried taking her child elsewhere and he was anxious. It's very hard to understand the full extent of autism unless you've lived with a child with autism. I have, and I still don't pretend to completely understand him.

EDIT: I was also on the, "You can't force someone to like Disney!" side, but in this case, her child may find other places overwhelming, even frightening. I agree with what Figgy said earlier about her child; don't take them someplace where they will be miserable
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Not sure about this situation, but in general, I think it's important to find out why the person doesn't like WDW, especially if that person is your spouse :)

One thing to think about is how you like to tour versus the other person. If you are a go-go-go person, getting up for rope drop every morning and running with your spreadsheet and the other person likes to relax and have a drink by the pool, there might be conflicts. For example, I wouldn't like Disney if my DH was like that. I'm a more casual visitor and I really enjoy spending time at the resorts as well.

I think that with the amount of planning that people do for WDW, along with wanting to get their money's worth, people forget that you can also relax there (and do lots of other things other than parks touring!). Sometimes it's a personality conflict more than a WDW conflict.

Again, not saying that is what is going on here, just in general.
This is a really good suggestion. :) I think if I were, "Go go go," all the time, I wouldn't like it either.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I'm the Disney nut in my family and I realize people either get it or they don't. But I get really mad when people say why don't you go other places with your kids. We do but I have a ds with autism and our Disney vacation is one where he comes alive and does better in social situations. So no I'm not going to spend 2 weeks on a beach any time soon!!!!!!!!!! My whole family would be miserable!
I hate it when they say that! I mean, we do go other places since my younger brother with autism can handle it, but he would be so upset if we didn't go on our usual Disney vacation. He needs a pattern in his life, and that is one of the few things that is stable. Plus, he loves it. He looks up Youtube videos when he gets home on Disney rides.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Maybe planning the vacation differently would work better for this person's DH. Like doing some non-park activities at times, even if that means she takes her autistic child to the parks and the DH and other child go off someplace else. Maybe they'd enjoy the speedboats, bike riding at the campground, Disney Quest, water parks, etc.
 

tnpoohbear

Member
Being a Disney fanantic, I find it so hard to run into people who do not understand the magic of Disney....any words of wisdom on how to deal with these people? Such people now include, alas, after 14 years of vacationing with my children at Disney, my husband...
Just forget about it! I would get that from some that I work with it - their problem, not mine!
 

Darth Tater

Well-Known Member
It's just not their thing. Doesn't bother me.
Different strokes for different folks... If someone doesn't like Disney, I don't view their opinions as bad or wrong.
I don't worry about what other people think. WDW is my thing and that's all that matters to me.
To each their own...
Respect their opinion?
Woa! :eek: I am disturbed, no, downright sickened by some of the acceptance you people are showing towards these infidels who don't appreciate Disney the way we do. To tolerate such behavior only allows it to flourish. Soon, you might have non-believers going to the same schools as your children, walking along your city streets...marrying into your families!! The outsiders must be silenced! Believers of the magic of WDW must unite and put an end to the filth that corrupts our planet! I implore you all to take whatever actions necessary in forcing these non-believers into loving & living the true life of Disney fandom. Force them to listen to theme park music loops, watch ride videos, or beat them senselessly with the case of a Disney DVD until their heads bleed with the love for our heavenly father Mickey!! We shall cleanse the streets of their ignorance! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!

;):rolleyes:
 

HDS

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rob45

Well-Known Member
Different strokes for different folks. I love being at WDW, some folks i work with love being on their boats. When they ask me why I love WDW so much i tell them " it's a magical experiance".
 

Michelle

New Member
Original Poster
Water boarding/electroshock therapy followed by positive reinforcement (think peanut butter cups) while watching one of the Disney vacation DVD's that features the 4 different people (you know, the ones with Dave, "the bench guy"). The new videos aren't near as effective.
My absolute favorite advice...thanks for making me laugh! That's hard to do these days... the "believers" was tongue-in-cheek, of course, but seriously, I am getting fed up with people's disbelief that I enjoy visiting DL and WDW so much. It's just pure joy for me, one of the few places that make me relax and relive childhood memories of growing up with Disney in the 70s/80s.

I so appreciate everyone's comments, I didn't expect so many responses. Thank you!

Yes, my husband is getting tired of the repeat trips and wants to try more national parks and the like, but in all honesty, he is in la-la land, because neither of our kiddos like the outdoors in the least, nor has my husband ever camped in his entire life or spent much time outdoors. Honestly, I grew up outdoors, camping and hiking, climbing trees and catching bugs and frogs and I am not stupid or being selfish here, I'm being realistic. Hawaii cost twice as much as a Disney vacation and was not worth the expense given how much our autistic son was willing to do. I was very disappointed, in all likelihood, I will never be able to go to Hawaii again. Disney is easier on the budget and gives the most bang for the buck. The kids are happy and I am happy because I am the vacation planner and tour guide. I need to have fun, too. When we want a family vacation, it is the easiest and most satisfying place to go. My husband wants variety, but guess what? He does zero research and I create the itinerary and am in charge as we go. Hawaii was so stressful for me. We have food restrictions to plan around. I have severe food allergies (that would be me, I usually lose 2-3 pounds on a 5-7 day vacation because I cannot find enough safe foods to eat on a limited menu/time constraints), plus 2 vegetarians, let alone a teen with autism. Vacations take a great deal of planning, flexibility and creativity to make them work. After Hawaii, I had to go to WDW less than two months later for a long weekend to unwind. I've traveled solo I think 4 times to WDW over the years for minibreaks.

So, yes, we've traveled quite a bit with our family, the kids have grown up accustomed to airplanes and travel. And yes, I take separate vacations, but these have decreased since the recession. Also, my kids don't like me to travel without them anymore. The best family vacations have consistently been DL or WDW. Our autistic teen LOVES the parks and is not overly anxious. He doesn't shut down and refuse to do anything, leaving one adult to sit while the other takes the other child to explore a new place. This makes me so sad. We have nobody to leave our children with anymore so we can go on vacations as a couple, that ended 4 years ago. We are gearing up for a family European trip within the next few years, but oh my goodness, all the planning and responsibility is in my lap. I'm not ready for that yet given that 2 years ago, Hawaii was such a disappointment and so stressful.

I know how lucky I am to be able to share such wonderful vacations with my family. We need these times to bond and have fun together. My husband works 60+ hours a week, the boys hardly ever spend any time with him. Neither do I, for that matter... Our family life is hard. In all likelihood, despite all the interventions, therapies and services he has received, our son may not ever be able to have a full time job or live independently. Living with that reality is hard. I don't think it is much to ask for a week long vacation once every 18-24 months to a place that works for the boys and for me. Plus, this time around I have planned for new experiences, like a boat ride near Cape Canaveral and our first DisneyQuest visit.

So, it's not a matter of wanting to force my husband, it's more of trying to understand why he has changed his tune recently, even though we did try a non-Disney vacation. I cannot possibly take the two boys by myself. I want to spend time with both of them. Taking just one, which I have done before, isn't as much fun since we always miss the others.

Thanks again for all your input. I'm looking forward to our next vacation this summer, and hoping for the best!
 

bubbles1812

Well-Known Member
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My absolute favorite advice...thanks for making me laugh! That's hard to do these days... the "believers" was tongue-in-cheek, of course, but seriously, I am getting fed up with people's disbelief that I enjoy visiting DL and WDW so much. It's just pure joy for me, one of the few places that make me relax and relive childhood memories of growing up with Disney in the 70s/80s.

I so appreciate everyone's comments, I didn't expect so many responses. Thank you!

Yes, my husband is getting tired of the repeat trips and wants to try more national parks and the like, but in all honesty, he is in la-la land, because neither of our kiddos like the outdoors in the least, nor has my husband ever camped in his entire life or spent much time outdoors. Honestly, I grew up outdoors, camping and hiking, climbing trees and catching bugs and frogs and I am not stupid or being selfish here, I'm being realistic. Hawaii cost twice as much as a Disney vacation and was not worth the expense given how much our autistic son was willing to do. I was very disappointed, in all likelihood, I will never be able to go to Hawaii again. Disney is easier on the budget and gives the most bang for the buck. The kids are happy and I am happy because I am the vacation planner and tour guide. I need to have fun, too. When we want a family vacation, it is the easiest and most satisfying place to go. My husband wants variety, but guess what? He does zero research and I create the itinerary and am in charge as we go. Hawaii was so stressful for me. We have food restrictions to plan around. I have severe food allergies (that would be me, I usually lose 2-3 pounds on a 5-7 day vacation because I cannot find enough safe foods to eat on a limited menu/time constraints), plus 2 vegetarians, let alone a teen with autism. Vacations take a great deal of planning, flexibility and creativity to make them work. After Hawaii, I had to go to WDW less than two months later for a long weekend to unwind. I've traveled solo I think 4 times to WDW over the years for minibreaks.

So, yes, we've traveled quite a bit with our family, the kids have grown up accustomed to airplanes and travel. And yes, I take separate vacations, but these have decreased since the recession. Also, my kids don't like me to travel without them anymore. The best family vacations have consistently been DL or WDW. Our autistic teen LOVES the parks and is not overly anxious. He doesn't shut down and refuse to do anything, leaving one adult to sit while the other takes the other child to explore a new place. This makes me so sad. We have nobody to leave our children with anymore so we can go on vacations as a couple, that ended 4 years ago. We are gearing up for a family European trip within the next few years, but oh my goodness, all the planning and responsibility is in my lap. I'm not ready for that yet given that 2 years ago, Hawaii was such a disappointment and so stressful.

I know how lucky I am to be able to share such wonderful vacations with my family. We need these times to bond and have fun together. My husband works 60+ hours a week, the boys hardly ever spend any time with him. Neither do I, for that matter... Our family life is hard. In all likelihood, despite all the interventions, therapies and services he has received, our son may not ever be able to have a full time job or live independently. Living with that reality is hard. I don't think it is much to ask for a week long vacation once every 18-24 months to a place that works for the boys and for me. Plus, this time around I have planned for new experiences, like a boat ride near Cape Canaveral and our first DisneyQuest visit.

So, it's not a matter of wanting to force my husband, it's more of trying to understand why he has changed his tune recently, even though we did try a non-Disney vacation. I cannot possibly take the two boys by myself. I want to spend time with both of them. Taking just one, which I have done before, isn't as much fun since we always miss the others.

Thanks again for all your input. I'm looking forward to our next vacation this summer, and hoping for the best!
Just wondering if you have actually told/expressed to your husband that you'd like him to be more involved in planning your vacations? I think someone already suggested that maybe you could let him choose some "atypical" things to do at Disney to kind of break up that monotony. I understand working many hours obviously makes one tired at the end of a week, but he might show more enthusiasm if you asked him to be more involved in the planning.

Also, if there is even a remote way for you two to get a little alone time, I think that would help greatly. It could be as simple as going to a restaurant in your hotel, where if your autistic son is having any trouble at all, the other is able to call, and you are literally a 5 minute elevator ride away. You could get room service and order a movie for the kids. I don't know if that is possible but it is just a suggestion.
 

Uncle Remus

Well-Known Member
If people don't like something they'll hate it even more if its forced on them. To be honest I selfishly wish less people liked it every time I'm standing in a line for 45 minutes to ride something that lasts only 2 1/2 minutes while its 103 degrees outside.
 

Violet

Well-Known Member
So, it's not a matter of wanting to force my husband, it's more of trying to understand why he has changed his tune recently, even though we did try a non-Disney vacation. I cannot possibly take the two boys by myself. I want to spend time with both of them. Taking just one, which I have done before, isn't as much fun since we always miss the others.

Thanks again for all your input. I'm looking forward to our next vacation this summer, and hoping for the best!

Outdoor vacations sound nice in theory, but they are harder to pull off than they seem. How about trying the cabins at Fort Wilderness? Maybe your husband would like that for a change? It's sort of wilderness-y!

Honestly, after reading more about your situation, I think your husband should suck it up and stop complaining and just be happy that you all have somewhere to go where you and your kids are happy. Happy wife, happy life :) GL!
 

Michelle

New Member
Original Poster
Oh, yes, we've had this conversation several times. I told him to come up with an itinerary if he wants to be in charge of a trip, but I doubt anything will come of it. He is 100% focused on his job. We'll just wait and see, I guess. I'm happy to help once I see what he can come up with on his own, of course. I've had no complaints until now, I've always been the one to do the planning since I have the time to do it and he doesn't. Finalizing plans has always been a joint decision, he always has final say. I've enjoyed planning vacations, I've had multiple people tell me I should lead tour groups in Europe (having been on European tours with them) and be a Disney travel agent, so it's fair to say that I have some talent with it. I'm a big history buff and love to travel and share my enthusiasm!

And yes, I have 3 reservations for meals for the two of us at AKL. For the first time, we are staying at AKL (ouch!) specifically to take advantage of being able to leave the boys in the room while we have some time together...a BIG step!
 

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