orlando210
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one of the highlights of our year is planning the trip to FLA, and then basking in the (usual) sunshine in Feb or Apr. we're looking for a reason to leave for a week! :sohappy:
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How cool would it be to have a disneyland in new york
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one of the highlights of our year is planning the trip to FLA, and then basking in the (usual) sunshine in Feb or Apr. we're looking for a reason to leave for a week! :sohappy:
Figment632
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It wouldn't work because it could only be open fir half the year.
gjohnson66
Member
Umm...OH HELL NO!!! I'm sure there are lots of "snow birds" up there that might actually like the idea, but for the rest of us this stinks! :hurl: As someone who travels up there fairly extensively I can say that this idea would prove to be a nightmare -- WAY too many folks up there all ready, not to mention the rather inhospitable winters they have (not necessarily a lot of snow, but really freakin' cold!!!).
Sam Eagle 1776
Member
How bout a smaller version say maybe a Magic Kingdom type park built completely indoors in a wide open place like rural Montana? Or if they really wanted something unique, how bout a sort of graveyard park filled with the best retired and original versions of attractions? Crowds wouln't be as much of a factor due to the small population around the area and tourism would be boosted in the area. Of course with today's economy building a new park anywhere under any circumstances probably wouldn't be a great move. But sticking with the theme of the thread how about it?
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
That first idea is kind of like DisneyQuest. Or at least the PLAN for DisneyQuest. That didn't work out as well as they'd hoped...
Originally there was supposed to be one in every major city in America.
RiversideBunny
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hemloc
Member
Ironically, Walt considered it....
He also thought of Miami....:lookaroun
Between Coral Castle, The Mai-Kai, and the Sawgrass, I think it's pretty much all covered in SoFlo, hehe.. 95 is the big E-ticket:lookaroun!!! Heck, we even got the Brazilians, lol:zipit:!!
Seriously.. This MUST be a troll-like being, because no human could possibly write like this.. Could they?? momaties???
Tom
Beta Return
LOL, I know, right?!
"Vintage unt Sven wont to bult a dizneyland on der hutzen, ya?"
tigsmom
Well-Known Member
What about Camp La Guardia or Lake Anne or Glenmere Lake? :lookaroun
I know of only one gated community (Tuxedo Park) though there may be some new ones somewhere and very few huge developments. The Orange County NY I live in still has plenty of farms (both dairy & food) and there are still plenty of wide open spaces to build some parks both privately & publicly owned.
While I would love to have some Disney parks nearby I have to agree that the climate just would not support them and as far as the taxes, well they give breaks to everyone else to build here so why not Disney? :shrug:
And if we are parking in Manhattan isn't NJ across the Hudson? :lol:
kitten2299
New Member
I would love it in upstate NY where I am! Actually I wouldnt care where it was as long as it was in NY State how great would it be to take a long weekend and go to Disney! I know it will never happen but its nice to dream!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LaughingGravy
Well-Known Member
If you've ever seen the Epcot film, and you should, you can see what an amazing time and place it was that the Florida project happened.
No internet.
The crossroads of major highways.
LOTS of land purchased under aliases in the center of the state.
You can just see the excitement in Walt that he pulled it off and here he was telling you about it.
Quite a big to do for a guy who wasn't a Rockefeller or Morgan.
That's up there with the Louisiana Purchase, as far as I'm concerned.
It's like buying 50 blocks worth of property in Manhattan way back when because land is cheap and no one will ever build past 52nd street.
The city is downtown. Riiighhht.
I'd say the middle of the country would be the only place left to try something like that.
New York? Nope.
No internet.
The crossroads of major highways.
LOTS of land purchased under aliases in the center of the state.
You can just see the excitement in Walt that he pulled it off and here he was telling you about it.
Quite a big to do for a guy who wasn't a Rockefeller or Morgan.
That's up there with the Louisiana Purchase, as far as I'm concerned.
It's like buying 50 blocks worth of property in Manhattan way back when because land is cheap and no one will ever build past 52nd street.
The city is downtown. Riiighhht.
I'd say the middle of the country would be the only place left to try something like that.
New York? Nope.
Wilt Dasney
Well-Known Member
Even if you hate the idea, a park next to you would maintain the tradition of putting every American Disney resort in Orange County.
mastif
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miles1
Active Member
I think this is probably the third factor, after the climate and taxes/goverment regulation. Nordstroms's department store has steadfastly refused to open stores in the NYC metropolitan area because, to put it politely, they would be unable to attract employees that would be able to maintain their level of customer service.
If a simple department store can't get dedicated employees, I imagine Disney would have a horrible time getting good CM's to staff the place.
brkgnews
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Given the trouble that Robert Moses and the crew went through to turn the old Ash Dump into Flushing Meadows - Corona Park for the two world's fairs there, I doubt anyone would go to that level of trouble again. Like Project Florida, it was one of the largest land reclaimation projects to date... and like Project Florida, it cost to the bejeebus belt and back.
tigsmom
Well-Known Member
I take offense at this! :fork:
There are thousands of dedicated, polite, capable people that live in this city as well as the surrounding areas. Just ask all of those who work at Macy's, Lord & Taylor or any of the fabulous stores that line 5th Avenue. Maybe Nordstrom's is afraid of the competition? :lookaroun
tigsmom
Well-Known Member
Robert Moses' troubles were more of his own making. Though he was a successful businessman many did not like him and contribute part of the demise of NY's greatness to him; to say he was an elitist is putting it mildly.
As one who must deal with his "visions" on an almost daily basis I understand what they meant.
brkgnews
Well-Known Member
Without getting into his grand visions for public works and urban development (which were admittedly very divisive); I think it's fair to say that in terms of the Fairs themselves, he and those others in charge faced challenges not unlike those faced by Disney park management from time to time. There was a lot of derision at the 64/65 fair that it was too commercialized and didn't focus more on the altruistic goals that a World's Fair should have. And at the 39/40 fair, there were vast changes between the first and second season due to sagging attendance... A new influx of "cheap" amusements and thrill-type rides came in to boost numbers because, regardless of what grand "teaching" goals might have been intended, the public wouldn't show up just to learn. There were parallels to what Epcot would eventually face some 40+ years later. And there were years upon years where what was originally promised of Flushing Meadows Park after the fair didn't quite come true... much like what was originally promised of EPCOT the city didn't quite come through either.