How AP works

MerHearted

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I'm planning a trip to WDW in 2006. From what I've been told, I would save a good amount of money if I get an AP and book the room separately instead of doing a package. I was also told that I should buy the AP as early as I can so the price won't go up. So, is it possible that I could buy an AP now at this year's price and not used it until say May of 2006 and have it last until May 2007? Is that allowed?
 

speck76

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you can buy the AP, but it does not become valid until you turn in your voucher.

I am not sure if there is a time limit on this.

Keep in mind, AP rates for hotels are not a given. The AP rates for this spring were much less of a discount than they were for last spring. If they economy keeps improving, chances are AP discounts for hotels could go away, or be further reduced.
 
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Thrawn

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speck76 said:
you can buy the AP, but it does not become valid until you turn in your voucher.

I am not sure if there is a time limit on this.

Keep in mind, AP rates for hotels are not a given. The AP rates for this spring were much less of a discount than they were for last spring. If they economy keeps improving, chances are AP discounts for hotels could go away, or be further reduced.

They were about the same dollar amount, however the regular rack rates went up, so the percentage was smaller. Still a decent savings, though.
 
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Madison

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For Disneyland, at the very least, my understanding is that the AP voucher must be redeemed within three months of purchase. I haven't the slightest idea if that holds true for Walt Disney World.
 
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Robfasto

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I normally get an Annual Pass and this year I have been keeping up with the savings:

November 2004
$25.00 x 3 nights at a Value Resort

May 2005
$25.00 x 4 nights at a Value Resort
10% Discount at the World Of Disney
10% Discount at Trails End Buffet

The totals so far is $210 savings plus I still have until November 2005 to go back.
 
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slappy magoo

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The good news: When you get an annual pass, you're given a voucher, and the pass doesn't become active until you hand in that voucher at Disneyworld and get your actual pass. What's more, if you were to buy your pass now, it would still be valid in May of 2006. Prices seem to only go up at the beginning of the year, though, so you don't necessarily need to buy your AP right this second.

Now the (potentially) bad news: Handing in that voucher is, techincally, the ONLY way you can get your AP validated. And the voucher itself is generic. That means your name isn't printed on it, and there's no way to prove it's yours. Which means, if you lose it, you are suh-cuh-rewed. If/when you do get it, make sure you keep it in a safe place where nothing can happen to it, and then make sure you bring it with you when you go.

Now, as far as AP hotel room rates go, I doubt they'd do away with the discount no matter how good the economy gets, as speck76 suggests. WDW knows that discount is the one main reason a lot of people get the AP. They might reduce the rate, but not get rid of them entirely. But they do limit the amount of rooms eligible for the rate in every hotel at any given time. It's a possibility that, the busier the time of year it is to go, the harder it might get to gets a discounted room. I believe May isn't usually too bad, because school is still in session. The Memorial Day weekend is probably jammed, and there might be more senior class trips, but if you were to go in early May, it probably wouldn't be so bad that the hotel you want will be devoid of rooms with an AP rate. Bear in mind though, that the AP rates for any given time period are released to the public approximately 3 months in advance. THis means, if you wanted to book a room now, you wouldn't get the discounted rate, because
a: They won't know what the discount is yet, and probably wouldn't know until mid-February;
b: You don't actually have an annual pass yet.

If you tried to book a room now for next year, I guess they'd charge you the full price for what it cost to book that room at the same time of year THIS year. You'd be required to pay one night in full as a deposit, with the balance due at check-in. They'd make a note that you intend to have an AP at check-in and prepare you for one of the rooms eligible for the discount. Then when you get to WDW, you'd first get your pass validated, THEN go check-in, they'd pro-rate you for the deposit you paid at the regular room rate and then you'd pay the balance at the AP rate.
 
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Robfasto

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slappy magoo said:
Then when you get to WDW, you'd first get your pass validated, THEN go check-in, they'd pro-rate you for the deposit you paid at the regular room rate and then you'd pay the balance at the AP rate.

Most of the time you can check-in the bring back your Annual Pass anytime during your visit to get the rate. If you don't bring it by for the to check you then get charged the full rack rate...
 
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MerHearted

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I don't plan to book until about 3-4 months beforehand. So if I book before the discounted rates come out, will I still get the discounted rates (whatever they may be) when I finally get to Disney? Also, are the AP-rated rooms any type of room or are they gonna be "lesser" rooms. Like say, if I was gonna stay at Contemporary and wanted a castle view. Would I be able to get that with an AP or would they toss me to the other side of the resort?
 
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slappy magoo

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If the rates for that time of year aren't out when you book, then you'll be quoted a full price for the room. Either way, since your pass isn't validated, you'll have to pay for one night at the regular non-AP price, But you WILL get that money back. Once you present your AP, they'll subtract the difference of what you paid for your deposit versus the AP rate, and apply that difference towards the balance due.

As far as specifying certain rooms or views, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think every resort has a percentage of rooms with every view available at the AP rate. So at the Contemporary, there would be some Standard view rooms, some Garden view, some Water View, some Tower interior and some Tower Exterior rooms that are eligible for the AP rate. The only dillemma arises if other AP holders book those rooms first.
 
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slappy magoo

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No. You can book today, if you want. You just won't know what the discounted room rate will be until 3 months (more or less) before your trip. You'll book your room at the full "rack rate."

But either way, it won't matter, because even when you DO know what the discounted room rate will be, they'll still charge you the full price on your deposit for the rooms, because your AP isn't active yet. Once the rates are out, they'll let you know what you can intend to pay, and they'll let you book a room that's meant for AP holders, but they'll still need to see the pass before they can guarantee you the rate. It won't be much of an issue, I promise you. You won't get hosed.

1: Book the room whenever you want, telling them you'll have an AP. Pay one night's deposit at the regular room rate.
2: Buy the AP, and when you get your voucher, keep it someplace safe.
3: Starting early 02/06, keep looking on this website, and on mousesavers.com and allearsnet.com. When the discounted room rates come out for the time you plan to travel, they'll all know at the same time.
4: When the rates do come out, call WDW and confirm your room at the AP rate. Your agent will say something like "OK, you're confirmed at the AP rate at X dollars a night. You already paid Y dollars for your deposit, so once you arrive at WDW and show us your annual pass, we'll reimburse the difference in the price and apply it to your current balance."
 
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MerHearted

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Awesome, thanks! I was worried I wouldn't be able to book earlier. You figure, if I do 7 days/6 nights at Contemporary that the AP would pay for itself, and maybe more?
 
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Vernonpush

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Last December we bought our APs and stayed at the Beach Club. What we saved on the room for the 8 nights is what we paid for the two APs. :sohappy: Add the 10% discount on the lunches at Epcot and we saved a bunch. Last May we got the Disney Dining Experience cards to save 20% at most sitdown restaurants and with what we have saved we are going again in Sept.
 
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slappy magoo

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MerHearted said:
Awesome, thanks! I was worried I wouldn't be able to book earlier. You figure, if I do 7 days/6 nights at Contemporary that the AP would pay for itself, and maybe more?


Well, nothing is guaranteed, but figure it this way.

You plan on going in May of 2006. Now this past May, discounts for Deluxe resorts in May was 100 bucks a night. If this holds true for next year as well, that's...let's see...100 bucks a night...6 nights...carry the two...round down to avoid chafing...that's 600 bucks you're saving on the room. I believe you can buy a Premium Annual Pass (which includes the water parks & Pleasure Island) for less than that, but if those parts of WDW aren't important to you, just get the regular Annual Pass and you'll save a nice chunk o' change. If you also join the Disney Dining Experience for an extra 50 bucks, you'll get 20% off most of your sit down meals as well.

And that's just for May of 2006. You wrote that you anticipate going in May of 2007 as well. Just remember to coordinate THAT trip so the passes will still be valid, you'll still get the room discount. If all the same rules apply then, that's ANOTHER 600 bucks you've saved, and that's all gravy, baby! :D

I validated my 1st annual pass late last August & stayed at the AKL. Went again in April & stayed @ Riverside, and going again THIS August, a week earlier than last time. We wound up joining the Disney Vacation Club so are using that in August instead of getting a room. But the money we saved on our rooms the prior two trips more than paid for our tickets. It's like we paid for the rooms and got admission free and a little change left over.
 
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MerHearted

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Awesome! I'm not targeting May 2007, I was just saying that's how long it would last. If I go again (and seeing how an AP would tempt me to go twice), I'll prolly go earlier in 2007. :)
 
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lawyergirl77

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MerHearted: I booked a week at the AKL using the AP discount, and I haven't bought my vouchers yet... It wasn't a problem for booking at all. I hesitated for a while, but when I realized that I would be going back next July/August, the whole thing became a no-brainer for me, especially when you think about the DDE!

I plan on buying the vouchers next month (so that I can put it onto next month's credit card statement!), which will hopefully give me plenty of time to sign up for the DDE as well.

Bottom line: I've been to WDW 3 times in the past 2 years. I always used to go with the Silver Dreammaker package because I enjoyed the discounts it would give me on food (I usually got the "Canadian dollars at par" discount). I am kicking myself now that I know about the hotel discounts and the DDE... I figure I likely would have saved somewhere around $750 U.S. Live and learn...
 
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KnK

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Kinda off the subject but... Does any one know how the spa discount works with the AP pass. The AP is in my DH name but I was maybe hoping to use it for a spa treatment.

If I would have to guess, I would just say I was out of luck, but never hurts to ask.
 
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wannabeBelle

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slappy magoo said:
If the rates for that time of year aren't out when you book, then you'll be quoted a full price for the room. Either way, since your pass isn't validated, you'll have to pay for one night at the regular non-AP price, But you WILL get that money back. Once you present your AP, they'll subtract the difference of what you paid for your deposit versus the AP rate, and apply that difference towards the balance due.

As far as specifying certain rooms or views, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think every resort has a percentage of rooms with every view available at the AP rate. So at the Contemporary, there would be some Standard view rooms, some Garden view, some Water View, some Tower interior and some Tower Exterior rooms that are eligible for the AP rate. The only dillemma arises if other AP holders book those rooms first.
I believe you are correct about the allocation of rooms there Slappy.
As far as getting the AP rate, you must be proactive about this and call Disney to switch over your room rate BEFORE your trip. If you simply book your room and show up at the front desk with your AP in hand I dont believe they can make any changes to your reservation which will be at full rate!!!!!!! Also there is a possibility that the resort that you had booked may sell out of AP rooms( There are a limited umber of rooms available per resort) so you may be forced to change your resort or your dates!!! Just because there is an AP rate doesnt mean that it will be automatically applied to your reservation!!! it is important!!!!!! Belle
 
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