HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

[Animaniac93-98]

Do we know when in 2021 Frozen will open?

 

[MagicHK]

I also hope that they will find a way to bury the railroad tracks or hide them because having them sitting in the middle of the future Marvel area looks quite bad imho and will look out of place and feel like a separation...

Unlike GG, MP, TSL, IASW, and the frozen land, where guest have to go down a little, that section of the railway track is elevated so guest are able to pass under the track at grade, similar to IME. I guess the future eticket will build on top of the train track meaning the train will enter a tunnel after passing space mountain.

 

[IMDREW]

new video!

 

[disney.dreams]

the arendelle castle looks so small, seems like even smaller than the old sleeping beauty castle

i hope imaginners can make it looks huge with forced perspective

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Any chance the RR reopens before Frozen?

 

[hkdisky]

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the arendelle castle looks so small, seems like even smaller than the old sleeping beauty castle

i hope imaginners can make it looks huge with forced perspective

I have no evidence, but the frozen QSR could replace Clopin’s Festival of Foods as the size of the building seems similar to frozen QSR. Hope the next small expansion plan can redevelop that area and fantasy Garden to two dark ride.

 

[616.1314]

I have no evidence, but the frozen QSR could replace Clopin’s Festival of Foods as the size of the building seems similar to frozen QSR. Hope the next small expansion plan can redevelop that area and fantasy Garden to two dark ride.

I hope so. Fantasyland lacks all those classic Disney dark rides. Hope they'd add Peter Pan in Clopin's FoF and replae Fantasy Gardens with Alice ride (such that it forms an Alice mini-land with the Teacups). The Park doesn't really need that many restaurants anyways (given half of them are closed during half of the times).

 

[G.L.A.D.I.O]

I hope so. Fantasyland lacks all those classic Disney dark rides. Hope they'd add Peter Pan in Clopin's FoF and replae Fantasy Gardens with Alice ride (such that it forms an Alice mini-land with the Teacups). The Park doesn't really need that many restaurants anyways (given half of them are closed during half of the times).

Mickey's Philharmagic was supposed to be transformed into Peter Pan's flight. It was the "reimagining attraction" projet stated to be completed in 2021 in the first announcement.

 

[IMDREW]

Mickey's Philharmagic was supposed to be transformed into Peter Pan's flight. It was the "reimagining attraction" projet stated to be completed in 2021 in the first announcement.

Is this true?

 

[HKDLer]

Some armchair imagineering:
I superimposed the Buzz Lightyear ride on Fantasy Gardens and just realised the space is large enough for an omnimover! From WDW's original NFL plan, Cinderella's meet and greet holding space is used as the ride facade/pre-show building. (with Pooh as the scale reference) After the pre-show you would board one of the pumpkin coaches and follow Cindy to the ball!

Version A

Version B (flipped)

Here's how Cindy's house (Tremaine Manor) looks:

 

[IMDREW]

I say give HKDL a pirate land between Its a Small World and Marvel with the Pirates Splash, lagoon with a ship and an amazing Peter Pan ride.

Super armchair imagineering ofcourse.

 

[BrianLo]

A few additional observations;

-The quarantine facility is not actually being built on the 2nd park plot, but instead either a very late phase parking lot expansion or a very late phase hotel expansion slot. Neither of which I could see them actually wanting to have used for several decades.
-The plot between Toy Story and Frozen I always figured was nothing more suitable than to house a TSMM clone. However, seeing how it is all coming together, it is actually quite sufficient to host a Ratatouille-like courtyard. Not a full restaurant like Paris, but an attraction, courtyard, gift shop, window service type concept. Perhaps another Fantasyland expansion opportunity, not Ratatouille, but just an idea of its size.
-The plot by Grizzly remains the last large-scale area for the park. Something that could - if boundaries were remade, host what people would consider an actual land, not just a mini-land.


Now for my make-believe hat;
If they have cold feet again with a 2nd gate this decade based on attendance, why not instead build a water park? Not on the second gate site, but along the Bay in lieu of a hotel or two. Add attractions to Disneyland and ever-so-slighty start with a very small, gradual Downtown Disney. (I.e. World of Disney, Starbucks and get a few restaurant partners on the hook).

There is plenty of room for the site to host two gates, a water park and a litany of additional hotels.

 

[PymParty]

Mickey's Philharmagic was supposed to be transformed into Peter Pan's flight. It was the "reimagining attraction" projet stated to be completed in 2021 in the first announcement.

I have heard that so many times but not proofs have ever shown it was true and, as time goes, nothing is happening... any info on the validity of this rumour ?

 

[Asa]

It's Hong Kong Disneyland 7th Anniversary ! Part Two: Exclusive Interview with Imagineers Tom Morris and Tim Delaney about HKDL Creation

Here is the part two of the exclusive interview of Tom MORRIS, Executive Creative Show Producer for HKDL. The interview was done in 2005 bef...

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Imagineer Tom Morris: "We wanted to introduce a dark ride with the character which we thought will be the most popular out here, which is winnie the pooh. Winnie is really close in popularity with mickey mouse. Everyone knows winnie the pooh out here. So we wanted to test the dark ride notion first with that attraction. And we reserved space for future dark rides once we know what it is what the local audience wants..."

Tom Morris already explained back in 2012 that Fantasyland has space reserved for more attractions. But apart from adding Fairy Tale Forest, they have added nothing in the land and gone straight for an expansion. I guess it is because it is easier to market a whole new Frozen area than one dark ride based on Peter Pan in Hong Kong.

I can hear the locals say, what, Peter Pan? Such an old movie, how many years ago was that? Similar to how the locals were really underwhelmed when It's A Small World opened back in 2008. Also, the ride already exists in Shanghai does not help matters. So even if they use the Peter Pan ride technology, they will probably need to find a new theme, maybe Rapunzel or Cinderella or Beauty and the Beast, especially the latter.

 

[BrianLo]

I have heard that so many times but not proofs have ever shown it was true and, as time goes, nothing is happening... any info on the validity of this rumour ?

I also can't imagine that would be the case. HK seems particularly sensitive to doing the same thing as Shanghai.

I thought the rumour was Philharmagic was slated for WDW's 50th and therefore HK would co-finance the new film.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I would personally prefer an update to PhilharMagic (with randomized scenes) than replacing it with Peter Pan.

By all means build more dark rides, but don't replace what little the park has now.

 

[Disneylover152]

I also can't imagine that would be the case. HK seems particularly sensitive to doing the same thing as Shanghai.

I thought the rumour was Philharmagic was slated for WDW's 50th and therefore HK would co-finance the new film.

Every resort except Shanghai has this attraction. So would all 5 resorts get the new film?

 

[hkdisky]

A few additional observations;

-The quarantine facility is not actually being built on the 2nd park plot, but instead either a very late phase parking lot expansion or a very late phase hotel expansion slot. Neither of which I could see them actually wanting to have used for several decades.
-The plot between Toy Story and Frozen I always figured was nothing more suitable than to house a TSMM clone. However, seeing how it is all coming together, it is actually quite sufficient to host a Ratatouille-like courtyard. Not a full restaurant like Paris, but an attraction, courtyard, gift shop, window service type concept. Perhaps another Fantasyland expansion opportunity, not Ratatouille, but just an idea of its size.
-The plot by Grizzly remains the last large-scale area for the park. Something that could - if boundaries were remade, host what people would consider an actual land, not just a mini-land.


Now for my make-believe hat;
If they have cold feet again with a 2nd gate this decade based on attendance, why not instead build a water park? Not on the second gate site, but along the Bay in lieu of a hotel or two. Add attractions to Disneyland and ever-so-slighty start with a very small, gradual Downtown Disney. (I.e. World of Disney, Starbucks and get a few restaurant partners on the hook).

There is plenty of room for the site to host two gates, a water park and a litany of additional hotels.

Water park is not possible for HKDL as Ocean Park is going to have a new water park next year. Also, I don’t think Hong Kongers willing to go to the water park in Hong Kong unless mainlanders are forbidden to enter.

 

[Stevie Amsterdam]

Water park is not possible for HKDL as Ocean Park is going to have a new water park next year. Also, I don’t think Hong Kongers willing to go to the water park in Hong Kong unless mainlanders are forbidden to enter.

Wait, what? Will mainlanders be denied access at Ocean Park's waterpark next year? If not, then your argument does not hold up with regards to HKDL.

Also, Ocean Park has been there since 1977, but that didn't stop Disney from opening HKDL there. So a water park is not impossible, unless Hong Kong only allows for one theme park to have a water park (spoiler: they don't)

 

[tomy117]

Do you guys think the marvel e-Ticket project will be axed?