HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

hkdisky

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Here are some findings on Wandering Oaken's Sliding Sleighs.
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Based on Google Earth, the size of the construction site is approximately half of the seven dwarfs mine train. In last year D23 it mentioned “You’ll then be helped by Olaf and Sven as they pull your sled to the top of the lift and send you on your way.”

So, I guess there will only be one lift. We probably get on the coaster inside the mountain, and finish the ride in about 2 mins. Although it is only half of the SDMT (based on size and lift counts), hopefully there will be Olaf and Sven AA inside the mountain (use some scenes from WDW frozen and new scenes in FEA?).
 

616.1314

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Here are some findings on Wandering Oaken's Sliding Sleighs. View attachment 462332View attachment 462333
Based on Google Earth, the size of the construction site is approximately half of the seven dwarfs mine train. In last year D23 it mentioned “You’ll then be helped by Olaf and Sven as they pull your sled to the top of the lift and send you on your way.”

So, I guess there will only be one lift. We probably get on the coaster inside the mountain, and finish the ride in about 2 mins. Although it is only half of the SDMT (based on size and lift counts), hopefully there will be Olaf and Sven AA inside the mountain (use some scenes from WDW frozen and new scenes in FEA?).
Oh wow! Thanks for the info!
I hope WOSS will have at least one scene with AA.
The first two additions of this expansion plan (Moana and Nano Battle) are both quite mediocre IMO.
Arendelle HAS to provide something greater in order to attract more guests to hit the requirement for Phase II.
 

IMDREW

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Sliding Sleighs is speculated to be more like a much longer Barnstormer based on the size and description. Also, FEA in Hong Kong and Paris is going to be bigger than Epcot (10 scenes vs. 8 at Epcot) if that helps!
Would have loved a Seven Dwarfs level coaster, but understandable. At least the theming of the mountain should make it leagues better than barnstormer. And it should be 100x better than the flatride that was planned first.

Nice to hear FEA is getting some form of plussing! I also expect the whole land to look beautiful so a very nice addition imo.
 

IMDREW

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Yeah, same. But you're right about it being better than the Alien Saucers-type ride they originally planned. And at least the Hong Kong land is set to be the biggest of the three Arendelles being built (this is what I've gathered is coming):

Hong Kong Disneyland (originally slated for 2021):
- Frozen Ever After (bigger and with added scenes)
- Wandering Oaken's Sliding Sleighs (coaster)
- Tick Tock Toys & Collectibles (gift shop)
- Northern Delights (sweets shop)

Tokyo DisneySea (originally slated for 2022):
- Frozen Ever After
- table service restaurant

Walt Disney Studios in Paris (originally slated for 2023):
- Frozen Ever After (bigger and with added scenes)
- table service restaurant
- meet & greet
No meet and greet or restaurant in Hong Kong?

I thought Disney Sea’s Frozen ride was a completely different ride and nog FEA? I absolutely love Fantasy Springs. Those are the king of expansions I’m waiting for. 4 rides, multiple restaurants, multiple IPs.
 

HKDLer

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The original Dancing Sleighs were meant to be an indoor version of Luigi's Rollickin' Roadsters with northern lights projected onto the ceiling akin to the Soaring queue in Shanghai. The updated Sliding Sleighs coaster will be similar to the Barnstormer/Gadget's Go Coaster, on a slightly larger scale with an indoor scene. M&G is also housed inside the mountain.

FEA in HK/Paris will have expanded but not added scenes. If you look at the Paris floor plans, the queue area and loading/unloading are also counted as scenes. I also heard rumours saying that they're ditching Epcot's projected face animatronics for the ride. Instead they're using lifelike animatronics like the ones in Tokyo's Beauty and the Beast ride.

HK's Arendelle does feature a smaller QSR located at the same spot as the Parisian restaurant, with additional outdoor seating inside the lakeside structure. In Paris the structure will be used as a PhotoPass kiosk.
 
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ThemeParkTraveller

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But from what I understand they're all getting FEA. Hong Kong and Paris will be bigger/extended but I haven't heard if Tokyo's will be.

The show building for the TDS Frozen attraction is roughly 2.5x the size of FEA at Epcot, so it's certainly going to be the most elaborate and unique among the Frozen attractions. Think SDL Pirates meets FEA in terms of scale.
 

HKDLer

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This is pretty much what to expect in the area, a not-so-small mini land with balanced offerings. What they need to do is add a show to the lake. Not labelled here are the castle and the small world ice cream kiosk next to the existing Fantasy Gardens breakroom at the bottom right.

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ThemeParkTraveller

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This is pretty much what to expect in the area, a not-so-small mini land with balanced offerings. What they need to do is add a show to the lake. Not labelled here is the small world ice cream kiosk next to the existing Fantasy Gardens breakroom at the bottom right.

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Is that two different quick service restaurants, or is the outdoor space by the lake additional seating for the village restaurant?
 

Robbiem

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The one thing I think HKDL needs most imo is that Pirates Splash ride. Make it a massive E-ticket. It would strenghten the parks appeal and ride line-up. Just like shanghais pirates is a big reason to go to SHDL, this would be it for HKDL.

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this ride would be epic I’d love to see it be built one day. I’m always surprised there wasn’t a pirate port in Disneysea with a ride like this but maybe they thought with pirates in Disneyland they didn’t need another similar area in the second park.

Adding Indy and aToy story mania would be a good moves as well,
 

HKDLer

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I think the best thing of this area is the kinetic energy provided by the coaster, the railroad and potential lake performances.
 

HKDLer

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My I ask your sources? I'm very interested and couldn't find some of this info when I was looking the other day. Thanks.
The attraction lineup on an imagineer's resume:
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The cancelled Dancing Sleighs featured trackless technology:
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Shanghai Soaring queue (taken by me):
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Where did you get this image? I've never seen it. According to your map, the building next to Sliding Sleighs is the M&G?:
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It looks morel like a shop to me.
The area plan is featured on WDI's homepage. Note that the lakeside structure was not painted so there could be changes to the plan. But that's the closest we could get right now. The sleigh on the thatched roof indicates the entrance of a sleigh ride. According to the FEA plans leaked by DLP Report and Outsidears, the merchandise shop will be located at the attraction exit of FEA. However, the attraction overflow queue and the m&g structure between FEA show building and the castle present in Paris will be absent in Hong Kong.
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And you don't have the castle labeled on your pic. What is going in that then?
The 'prop castle', as indicated on Hong Kong's Buildings Department monthly digest and many Disney hiring posts, will be inaccessible to guests in both HKDL and WDS and will house BOH facitilies. Therefore, I didn't bother to label it in the area plan. Comparing the plans with google map, the castle will be similar in scale to Sleeping Beauty Castle in Anaheim.
 
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ThemeParkTraveller

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That's awesome and totally makes sense! Where did you find that info?

Construction details were first published in a news article here (Japanese). https://www.kensetsunews.com/web-kan/213920

From what I can tell, Frozen at TDS forgoes the additional coaster at HKDL for a single (and much larger) headliner. And whereas the castle is just a prop at WDSP and HKDL, the castle courtyard and interior at TDS are fully built out and accessible to guests. WDSP seems like the only version to get shortchanged as it has no unique or defining features of its own.

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montydysquith-navarro

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I also heard rumours saying that they're ditching Epcot's projected face animatronics for the ride. Instead they're using lifelike animatronics like the ones in Tokyo's Beauty and the Beast ride.

Please let this be true. The projected faces don't look right on camera (the ones on the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train come to mind). I'm assuming the audio-animatronics would be at least A100 figures, if not A1000?

WDSP seems like the only version to get shortchanged as it has no unique or defining features of its own.

Sad but true. As much as I love that they're finally giving Paris (especially the Studios) some love and well-needed TLC, I feel that the 1 attraction-shop-and-restaurant model for the lakeside expansions wouldn't relaunch the whole park as successfully as DCA.
 

BrianLo

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But from what I understand they're all getting FEA. Hong Kong and Paris will be bigger/extended but I haven't heard if Tokyo's will be.

There's been a lot of rumours about whether it is a trackless ride or boat ride. While HKDL/WDSP are FEA (with a bit of plussing in the carry over and slightly more room) - Tokyo's will be a different ride. Kind of akin to a Pooh situation.

Not that it can't retain many similar story beats. But Tokyo's show building is almost 3 times the size of Florida's.
 

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