Rumor Higher Speed Rail from MCO to Disney World

[JMcMahonEsq]

My biggest question was as you mention, taking the connector to DS then bus.

Would folks be lugging their bags off Brightline, on to connector, then off connector on to bus?

If Disney actually cared, they would bring back the free Magical express from the airport.

Other than just bashing, I honestly don't get the idea of people who think the world ended when DME left.

We loved it too, don't get me wrong, but other than some cruise ships, any other location you go on vacation to, with kids or without, you have to deal with your luggage. No one is handling your bags for you if you are bringing the family to NYC, or to DC, or to Bush Gardens, Was down in Hollywood Florida last week, Hilton cared about our business and wanted people on their property....you still had to get yourself and luggage there

 

[Disstevefan1]

Other than just bashing, I honestly don't get the idea of people who think the world ended when DME left.

We loved it too, don't get me wrong, but other than some cruise ships, any other location you go on vacation to, with kids or without, you have to deal with your luggage. No one is handling your bags for you if you are bringing the family to NYC, or to DC, or to Bush Gardens, Was down in Hollywood Florida last week, Hilton cared about our business and wanted people on their property....you still had to get yourself and luggage there

Disney agrees with you apparently and that is why they took away Magical Express.

We must presume Disney knows whats best for their business even though it doesn't look that way from less educated folks like myself.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Other than just bashing, I honestly don't get the idea of people who think the world ended when DME left.

We loved it too, don't get me wrong, but other than some cruise ships, any other location you go on vacation to, with kids or without, you have to deal with your luggage. No one is handling your bags for you if you are bringing the family to NYC, or to DC, or to Bush Gardens, Was down in Hollywood Florida last week, Hilton cared about our business and wanted people on their property....you still had to get yourself and luggage there

It’s not that the world ended…it’s symbolic of a bad management shift that’s collapsing as we speak…

…you just have to watch it unfold.

Attendance dropping due to diminished value…revenue will too

Bob will be gone

 

[Disstevefan1]

It’s not that the world ended…it’s symbolic of a bad management shift that’s collapsing as we speak…

…you just have to watch it unfold.

Attendance dropping due to diminished value…revenue will too

Bob will be gone

A trophy worthy post

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

It’s not that the world ended…it’s symbolic of a bad management shift that’s collapsing as we speak…

…you just have to watch it unfold.

Attendance dropping due to diminished value…revenue will too

Bob will be gone

First, there is no link between one and the other, and that's assuming that drops in attendance with no corresponding drop in revenue is any concern at all.

But secondly, other than some anecdotal people complaining on a message board, where is the evidence that dropping of the DME is bad management. I don't see any evidence that the model of self contained, free Transporation and baggage handling is at all good management. Leaving aside whether it was profitable, and how much it was used, data points that the people who canned the program have that we don't, if it was such a great model, why was it never implemented or copied by any other company/tourist destination? If only one company throughout an entire industry is utilizing a particular service, what is more likely, that the entire rest of the industry is giving up profit and value add by simply not copying what another company has already implemented, or that the service itself is not sustainable and/or doesn't add enough value to make it worth the cost?

 

[Andrew25]

I don't think DME was much of a selling point for most. I sincerely doubt most of us here would go offsite solely based on the removal of DME when the main reasons why you book a WDW resort are early park access and free transportation within the resort. All other factors like reduced housekeeping and parking fees made more of an impact than DME did.

Don't get me wrong, DME was a nice thing to have... but it wasn't an amenity that caused you to book a WDW resort specifically.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

First, there is no link between one and the other, and that's assuming that drops in attendance with no corresponding drop in revenue is any concern at all.

But secondly, other than some anecdotal people complaining on a message board, where is the evidence that dropping of the DME is bad management. I don't see any evidence that the model of self contained, free Transporation and baggage handling is at all good management. Leaving aside whether it was profitable, and how much it was used, data points that the people who canned the program have that we don't, if it was such a great model, why was it never implemented or copied by any other company/tourist destination? If only one company throughout an entire industry is utilizing a particular service, what is more likely, that the entire rest of the industry is giving up profit and value add by simply not copying what another company has already implemented, or that the service itself is not sustainable and/or doesn't add enough value to make it worth the cost?

First: it’s an opinion forum

Second: I was making a link as to why ME is such a “figure head”…it’s symbolic of how people pay more now and have stuff taken away…there are many others

Third: are you sure you’re in the right place? Because discussion is what we try to do here

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think DME was much of a selling point for most. I sincerely doubt most of us here would go offsite solely based on the removal of DME when the main reasons why you book a WDW resort are early park access and free transportation within the resort. All other factors like reduced housekeeping and parking fees made more of an impact than DME did.

Don't get me wrong, DME was a nice thing to have... but it wasn't an amenity that caused you to book a WDW resort specifically.

It wasn’t meant to sell them…
It was meant to keep you and all your money there

 

[Disstevefan1]

First: it’s an opinion forum

Second: I was making a link as to why ME is such a “figure head”…it’s symbolic of how people pay more now and have stuff taken away…there are many others

Third: are you sure you’re in the right place? Because discussion is what we try to do here

T R O P H Y

 

[Disone]

First, there is no link between one and the other, and that's assuming that drops in attendance with no corresponding drop in revenue is any concern at all.

But secondly, other than some anecdotal people complaining on a message board, where is the evidence that dropping of the DME is bad management. I don't see any evidence that the model of self contained, free Transporation and baggage handling is at all good management. Leaving aside whether it was profitable, and how much it was used, data points that the people who canned the program have that we don't, if it was such a great model, why was it never implemented or copied by any other company/tourist destination?

But it was copied and is in fact still in use.

 

[Batman'sParents]

I’ll believe a useful rail system in the US the minute i see one built

Well WDW has the best transit system in FL. Not a train but it's something of note.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well WDW has the best transit system in FL. Not a train but it's something of note.

And nobody ever pees in the cars (on purpose)…unlike the New York subway and DC metro

 

[JoeCamel]

But it was copied and is in fact still in use.

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They don't transfer the baggage? That was the hook for ME

And nobody ever pees in the cars (on purpose)…unlike the New York subway and DC metro

Monorails sez different

 

[Disone]

They don't transfer the baggage? That was the hook for ME

Monorails sez different

YOU. Yes.

Having said that the luggage transfer often worked in conjunction with Disney's magical express. However that service was a separate service from magical express and was cut before magical express was.

The statement was made that no other tourist destination has ever copied Disney's magical express and that is not the case.

 

[Phicinfan]

I’ll believe a useful rail system in the US the minute i see one built

Like it or not, rail is gaining.... steam(get it...did ya?? ) Ohio has plans in place to add two more Amtrak higher speed rail lines between Cleveland and Cincinnati and across east to west as well. Trying to remove more traffic from airports.

There is a line now from Cincinnati to Chicago which I like to take from time to time to avoid airports

 

[Phicinfan]

It’s not that the world ended…it’s symbolic of a bad management shift that’s collapsing as we speak…

…you just have to watch it unfold.

Attendance dropping due to diminished value…revenue will too

Bob will be gone

Agreed, the cost no longer is value, when all the extra special perks that set WDW apart are taken away.

 

[Phicinfan]

YOU. Yes.

Having said that the luggage transfer often worked in conjunction with Disney's magical express. However that service was a separate service from magical express and was cut before magical express was.

Was it? Or was it AFTER they already announced DME was going away. I thought it was the latter.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Agreed, the cost no longer is value, when all the extra special perks that set WDW apart are taken away.

…stop agreeing with me…
It freaks me out, dude

 

[Disone]

Was it? Or was it AFTER they already announced DME was going away. I thought it was the latter.

Post COVID WDW still had DME until January of 2022 but airline check in and luggage deliver was gone and never came back post COVID.

 

[Phil12]

Trains are an interesting curiosity and they have a fan base. However they are really not needed in the USA. Long trips are better served by aircraft while buses work better for short trips. Trains are anachronistic blivits in the world of transportation.