Help Stop Ashley Simpson NOW!

imagineer99

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darthdarrel said:
Personally I can not for the life of me understand why Steve does not close this thread!
All it does is anger some and hurt others.
Do I like Ashlee simpson? ...NO!
Everyone on these boards have thier own musical tastes, personally I can not stand Metallica either! I would rather be sliced open with a thousand razers then listen to a Metallica song. That does not make me any better then anyone on these boards, it just means I have a differant taste in music. Static and everyone else you have to know that there have always been "pop" music and always will be, look at Leif Garret,David Cassidy and Tom Jones and in the 80's look at The NEw kids on the block and Boys to men and Tiffany and look in the 90`s with The Back street boys and Nsych and Brittany Spears and Christina Aguelarra. You can Bash Ashlee all you want and all you are going to do is hurt someones feelings, cause music is something personal to alot of people.
So Steve I beg you close this thread before more people feelings are hurt.

It's a discussion forum. Why would Steve close this thread?

Not every topic is gonna be something that we *all* agree on. Just because there's disagreement, we should close a thread?That's just dumb.

If it hurts your feelings, stop reading. No member is being personally attacked. No malignant or harsh words are being uttred to other members. Until that happens, let the thread stay.

I'm not bashing anyone's taste in music. If you like pop, hip-hop, rap, etc...listen to it.

I'm simply relating why so many people truly dislike Ashlee Simpson. She stands for so much that is wrong in this world (laziness, lies, nepotism). Why would anyone choose to support that?
 

1stStarIC2nite

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imagineer99 said:
I'm simply relating why so many people truly dislike Ashlee Simpson. She stands for so much that is wrong in this world (laziness, lies, nepotism). Why would anyone choose to support that?

It's because people like her for her lyrics. I'm sure if you or others actually listened to each and every song on her album and heard what she had to say, you'd appreciate her a lot more than you do now.
 

Indy95

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1stStarIC2nite said:
It's because people like her for her lyrics. I'm sure if you or others actually listened to each and every song on her album and heard what she had to say, you'd appreciate her a lot more than you do now.

But the thing is, I HAVE listened to some of her songs, and the lyrics are TERRIBLE. Her melodies are good enough, but all she does is REPEAT them over and over and over. Nothing else. Her music is inherently flawed, and the lyrics suffer as a result.

I just hate what Ashlee stands for, as Imagineer said. I don't mind too much that her music is mediocre at best, that she can't sing, or that she pretends to have qualities to her music just to get a fan base. That's basically every other pop singer right now, and I really don't mind that much (though I fear for the future of ACTUAL music, with this generation listening to this crap). Hey, I don't like rap music either (talk about crap), but that doesn't mean that I hate every rapper. No, Ashlee is just a spoiled rich brat, making more money in a year than all of us would make in a lifetime, while not working at all, blaming everyone else for her problems, and just overall being a terrible human being. That's why I want to see Ashlee fail. When I listen to music, I like to know whether or not the people I'm listening to actually work or have talent. Obviously Ashlee fans don't.
 

1stStarIC2nite

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Indy95 said:
That's why I want to see Ashlee fail. When I listen to music, I like to know whether or not the people I'm listening to actually work or have talent. Obviously Ashlee fans don't.

I'll take that as an offense. I believe I know when a singer has talent or not, whether it's in their own lyrics, music, or other things. People have a difference in opinion, which is the whole theme of this thread.But what I don't really appreciate is when you're basically telling me I have no judge in talent at all. Thanks. So that means Clay Aiken is terrible? Kelly Clarkson? Usher? Alicia Keys? Hmmm...
 

phlydude

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I say enough is enough. When are we as the American consumer going to stop this insanity. It is truly awful that some talentless hack riding the coat tails of their sibling can sell millions of records and be booked on SNL and the half time of the Orange Bowl. She is a terrible live artist and should not have ever been brought into the spotlight. She has a pi$$ poor attitude as well and is clearly a spoiled brat (she threw a chair at a plasma tv after the half-time incident).

The shame of it all is that unsuspecting 8-14 yr olds are being bilked out of their money when buying these CDs for a less than mediocre product.

This is just one of the examples of these record companies throwing out junk to the consumers without an emphasis on quality in efforts to make money. Remember when there used to be good songs on the radio all year long that were original and fresh (as recent as the late 90's)? Now all the music that comes out is crap or re-sampled old hits that are mediocre at best. When can you truly say that you had 10 timeless songs come out over the radio in the course of a year?
 

MouseMadness

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Well, inside the cd each song has the writers credited, and legally whoever wrote the song has to be acknowledged, don't they? So the whole issue of whether or not she writes her own music should be solved right there.

And I read an article on Green Day as their new album was getting released, and they said Ashlee Simpson was one of the reasons they wanted to do a new album. One of them saw her in a t-shirt that said "Punk" and his response was "Ashlee Simpson, you are not punk" :lol: :lookaroun
 

barnum42

New Member
If people buy it, the corporations will keep pushing it out. It does not matter who dislikes a product. If enough people keep buying it that's all they care about.

There are far worse things the corporations can peddle that what to some of our ears may sound like mediocre music.

I can't judge this girl's music as I've not heard it, but I respect Kirsten's opinions and her observations of Miss Simpson's behaviour to others is enough for me to take a dislike to her as a person.
 

imagineer99

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1stStarIC2nite said:
I'll take that as an offense. I believe I know when a singer has talent or not, whether it's in their own lyrics, music, or other things. People have a difference in opinion, which is the whole theme of this thread.But what I don't really appreciate is when you're basically telling me I have no judge in talent at all. Thanks. So that means Clay Aiken is terrible? Kelly Clarkson? Usher? Alicia Keys? Hmmm...

I'm not going to pass judgement on the people you listen to.

However, I will say this: I know that you are a fan of Broadway music. Does it not bother you that these Broadway artists can sing LIVE almost every night and still sound fantastic when doing so, yet Ashlee can sound like a screeching-eel and still have a large fanbase?

What's to admire in that?

As for her lyrics. Do you honest believe that the lyrics for "lala" are inspiring and well-written (even though Ashlee didn't actually pen them)?

You make me wanna la la
in the kitchen on the floor
I'll be a french maid
When I meet you at the door
I'm like an alley cat
Drink the milk up, I want more
You make me wanna
You make me wanna scream


^That's sending a good message to her young adolescent fans... :rolleyes:
 

barnum42

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MouseMadness said:
Well, inside the cd each song has the writers credited, and legally whoever wrote the song has to be acknowledged, don't they? So the whole issue of whether or not she writes her own music should be solved right there.
Marketing people can gloss over the credits, and performers can totally buy out a composer's rights to a song. I am personally aware of this happening with one international singer composer. This person does write a lot of their own material but one of their songs, whilst credited to them was bought from a third party. From what I understand they were well paid, but get no credit on the album.
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
1stStarIC2nite said:
I'll take that as an offense. I believe I know when a singer has talent or not, whether it's in their own lyrics, music, or other things. People have a difference in opinion, which is the whole theme of this thread.But what I don't really appreciate is when you're basically telling me I have no judge in talent at all. Thanks. So that means Clay Aiken is terrible? Kelly Clarkson? Usher? Alicia Keys? Hmmm...

VERY GOOD! You're starting to understand, many bands/singers pushed are CRAP. The only one I think is good is Alicia Keys, but that is the lesser of two evils.
 

DDuckFan130

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phlydude said:
I say enough is enough. When are we as the American consumer going to stop this insanity. It is truly awful that some talentless hack riding the coat tails of their sibling can sell millions of records and be booked on SNL and the half time of the Orange Bowl. She is a terrible live artist and should not have ever been brought into the spotlight. She has a pi$$ poor attitude as well and is clearly a spoiled brat (she threw a chair at a plasma tv after the half-time incident).

The shame of it all is that unsuspecting 8-14 yr olds are being bilked out of their money when buying these CDs for a less than mediocre product.

This is just one of the examples of these record companies throwing out junk to the consumers without an emphasis on quality in efforts to make money. Remember when there used to be good songs on the radio all year long that were original and fresh (as recent as the late 90's)? Now all the music that comes out is crap or re-sampled old hits that are mediocre at best. When can you truly say that you had 10 timeless songs come out over the radio in the course of a year?
Very good point in the last paragraph. I told my sister that I barely like any music today. On our digital music channels (Music Choice), I always listen to the 90s and 80s channels because they put on so much great music from yesteryear. Hit List has music from the past couple of years, but I don't really like the music from the past couple of years. The only exceptions are Maroon 5 I think. Music is really kind of dying for me lately. May not be dying for other people, but that's their problem. If you like Ashlee, go ahead and rock out :lol:.
 

DDuckFan130

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Testtrack321 said:
VERY GOOD! You're starting to understand, many bands/singers pushed are CRAP. The only one I think is good is Alicia Keys, but that is the lesser of two evils.
I only like one of Alicia's songs, but isn't she respected for being a true "artist?" She plays the piano and supposedly writes all of her own music. Isn't that what it's supposed to be like for those that complain about sugar-coated pop? And yes Clay and Kelly are sugar-coated pop (I care more about the show than them personally), but they can sing their butts off and that's why they have gotten as far as they have. Gotta give them that.
 

Boo's Mom

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1stStarIC2nite said:
How is it unfair? They're the ones who started playing the wrong song :hammer:


:hammer: Duh, they shouldn't have had to use back up music. She was supposed to be singing live, not using back up vocals. None of that would have happened if she didn't have to use pre-recorded music. She should have sung live instead of relying on a machine to put on a better performance. If she's not confident enough to sing live and have to rely on pre-recorded music, then singing is clearly not for her.
 

Boo's Mom

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1stStarIC2nite said:
It's because people like her for her lyrics. I'm sure if you or others actually listened to each and every song on her album and heard what she had to say, you'd appreciate her a lot more than you do now.



I've listened to her whole cd and watched her tv show. No I still don't appreciate her. She complains about her photo shoots, complains about her voice, complains that things are not going her way. Plain and simple, she's a brat. she's one of those who do need to quit their day job. She needs to stick to acting (on tv shows, not acting like she can sing... :lookaroun )

Ashlee Simpson quote from recent magazine: "Maybe they were booing at me....maybe they were booing at the half-time show because the whole thing sucked" Now she is blaming the half-time show for her being booed.... Yes Ashlee, they were booing the half-time show, they just decided to boo the half-time show after your performance...give me a break
 

imagineer99

New Member
Here's where I draw the distinction...even though I'm not a fan of Clay Aiken's music, he does have an incredible voice. At least he posseses talent. Ashlee doesn't.
 

Slipknot

Well-Known Member
M:SpilotISTC12 said:
Blue Man Group is king even though they cant sing!

So true!!!

BTW, Dizknee_Phreek, I never said Metallica was my favorite band. Far from it. Not to mention they lost some of my respect with that Napster BS... Now that was spoiled bratitis in its entirety.
 

Dizknee_Phreek

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Static-X said:
BTW, Dizknee_Phreek, I never said Metallica was my favorite band. Far from it. Not to mention they lost some of my respect with that Napster BS... Now that was spoiled bratitis in its entirety.

Oh, sorry about that. You just kind of made it seem like you really liked them. I agree completely on the Napster thing, though. I didn't like them much to being with, but I completely disliked them after all that. *sigh* I miss free Napster.
 

Dizknee_Phreek

Well-Known Member
phlydude said:
The shame of it all is that unsuspecting 8-14 yr olds are being bilked out of their money when buying these CDs for a less than mediocre product.

Why is Ashlee getting blamed for this sort of thing? It's certainly not the first time....remember the Spice Girls? Besides, when I was 8-14 years old, I made up my own mind even then about my musical choices...I wasn't "unsuspecting" and I wasn't brain-washed or anything like that (well, except for my Spice Girl stage). Give the 8-14 year olds a chance.
 

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