Uponastar
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I commend places on the internet for posting things like this...
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/01/22/dear-media-lets-all-try-to-be-classy-about-this/
It's all very, very true.
Oh, Bravo!
That needed to be said.
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Heath Ledger...Dead. R.I.P.
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Oh, Bravo!
That needed to be said.
Nemo14
Well-Known Member
Amen!I commend places on the internet for posting things like this...
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/01/22/dear-media-lets-all-try-to-be-classy-about-this/
It's all very, very true.
Figment571
Member
It's funny how that article has ad's next to it advertising Lohan's diminishing humanity.
Oh, celebrity how odd art though. Actually there is a Goofy cartoon that explains it. Don't remember what it's called though.
RIP
Talent taken in it's prime.
Oh, celebrity how odd art though. Actually there is a Goofy cartoon that explains it. Don't remember what it's called though.
RIP
Talent taken in it's prime.
diddy_mouse
Well-Known Member
It is definitely tragic. Like someone mention a few posts back, it's like Brandon Lee's untimely/accidental death.
He was probably the last person I'd think to pass away so soon. I just hope that the actual facts will surface not some tabloid fiction that usually seems to overshadow the truth.
My thoughts are with his friends and family...
Like someone mention a few posts back, it's like Brandon Lee's untimely/accidental death. He was probably the last person I'd think to pass away so soon. I just hope that the actual facts will surface not some tabloid fiction that usually seems to overshadow the truth.
My thoughts are with his friends and family...
Peaches Magee
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I commend places on the internet for posting things like this...
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/01/22/dear-media-lets-all-try-to-be-classy-about-this/
It's all very, very true.
Brilliantly put.
I am saddened, but I feel the media circus is ridiculous...
They need to let the man have some respect and peace... it is very much deserved and human of people to do at least that.
WaltzingMatilda
Member
Now, here, my darlings, is where I disagree with you. Though it pains me to say it.
As a culture we idealize, adore, defame, and destroy the famous. As it in life, so it should be in death. I will read everything Star Magazine, Globe, and The National Enquirer has to say about this sad, untimely death (in my opinion all deaths are sad and untimely, but God has other plans). I will read them with a grain of salt, but I will read them nonetheless. If I did not give a person privacy while he was alive, why should I extend that when he is dead? His family does deserve time to grieve in private, but didn't they also deserve time to be a family, alive, together in private? Nope...they're famous.
This kills me...I cannot believe he is gone.
As a culture we idealize, adore, defame, and destroy the famous. As it in life, so it should be in death. I will read everything Star Magazine, Globe, and The National Enquirer has to say about this sad, untimely death (in my opinion all deaths are sad and untimely, but God has other plans). I will read them with a grain of salt, but I will read them nonetheless. If I did not give a person privacy while he was alive, why should I extend that when he is dead? His family does deserve time to grieve in private, but didn't they also deserve time to be a family, alive, together in private? Nope...they're famous.
This kills me...I cannot believe he is gone.
mpoppins76
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Green Lantern
New Member
Brilliantly put.
I am saddened, but I feel the media circus is ridiculous...
They need to let the man have some respect and peace... it is very much deserved and human of people to do at least that.
Agreed.
Not only that, but when they were taking his body from the apartment, not only the papparazzi vultures were taking pictures of the body bag, so were fans with their cell phones. What is wrong with this world when people are so sick and twisted that they take a picture of that? Even in death a celebrity cannot have peace? That is just as bad as those awful autposy photos of George Reeves being sold at movie conventions. Just sick.
MouseMadness
Well-Known Member
I'll admit to curiosity as to what happened to him (as in, coroner's report), but as far as reading every rag's story/spin/OPINION on it, I couldn't care less :shrug: I fail to see the appeal in reading all the assumptions and hearsay.
No kidding...it's just sick.
OMG!!1! Brad Pitt just defecated in this restroom and he painted the bowl...
*snap* *flash* *snap* *send to TMZ* *send to global list*
DisneyChick1984
Member
I heard about this at 5:00pm yesterday and I'm still in shock.
I just can't believe it. I absolutely loved Heath Ledger. He will be greatly missed.
I just can't believe it. I absolutely loved Heath Ledger. He will be greatly missed.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
A tragedy, how crushing that the effects of playing a cartoon villain messed with his mind to such an extent (allegedly).
wonder how the young people serving in Afghanistan and Iraq cope with seeing a mate blown away, and they dont get threads of tea and sympathy across the net either.
wonder how the young people serving in Afghanistan and Iraq cope with seeing a mate blown away, and they dont get threads of tea and sympathy across the net either.
Green Lantern
New Member
Wow, this was uncalled for. No one here said anything heartless about the men and women who are bravely serving our country in Afghanistan and Iraq. If there was a thread open regarding that, I for one would be expressing my sympathy for what they are going through.
Whether it's someone playing a "cartoon villain" as you so eloquently put it, or a brave man or woman being "blown away" it still is a human life, and no matter how it is lost, it is a tragedy when a life ends.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Just more newsworthy when its someone from the field of entertainment?
I was simply expressing concern that if as reported his death is the result of mental anguish caused as a result of a role he played in a movie environment, what sort of risk exists to those serving who face brutality and death on a daily basis, and when the wounds they deal with are not made by Rick Bakers special effects team?
No front page stories for them, I guarantee it.
Nakasak,
I have a feeling it was directed towards me...because I was the OP.
I know you well enough to know that you rely heavily of fart jokes, sarcasm, and bordering on the edge innuendos. I commend that :lol:
I think the main reason for people not getting all worked up over every soldier that dies is because those soldiers aren't in the limelight. Actors, sportsfigures, and the like are in your face and you tend to grow feelings (good, bad, or indifferent) towards them based on what you know about them or the characters they have portrayed.
If there were continuing stories and updates on individual soldier's lives...it would be the same thing. We don't know the soldiers on a "personal" level. (Not that we know the actual actors...but we do KNOW ABOUT them prior to hearing about their death).
Here is a similar thing. If someone in your family passes away. You're affected by it.
Now, if someone in your family passes away that you have never met...you're not AS affected by it because you didn't know about them prior to them passing away. It is still extremely sad because it's a loss of life...and the people that were close to him/her are going to be affected, but it just doesn't hit home because the news of him/her dying was the first time you have heard of that person.
I have a feeling it was directed towards me...because I was the OP.
I know you well enough to know that you rely heavily of fart jokes, sarcasm, and bordering on the edge innuendos. I commend that :lol:
I think the main reason for people not getting all worked up over every soldier that dies is because those soldiers aren't in the limelight. Actors, sportsfigures, and the like are in your face and you tend to grow feelings (good, bad, or indifferent) towards them based on what you know about them or the characters they have portrayed.
If there were continuing stories and updates on individual soldier's lives...it would be the same thing. We don't know the soldiers on a "personal" level. (Not that we know the actual actors...but we do KNOW ABOUT them prior to hearing about their death).
Here is a similar thing. If someone in your family passes away. You're affected by it.
Now, if someone in your family passes away that you have never met...you're not AS affected by it because you didn't know about them prior to them passing away. It is still extremely sad because it's a loss of life...and the people that were close to him/her are going to be affected, but it just doesn't hit home because the news of him/her dying was the first time you have heard of that person.
Green Lantern
New Member
No, I said I feel sympathy for any human life that is ended, whether they are in the entertainment field or not.
You are right, the soldiers who do die don't get front page coverage, or coverage on the news channels like when someone famous dies. That doesn't mean we should think less of others.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
No it wasnt aimed at anyone in particular, and to be honest it is from my frustration at seemingly being the only person on the planet that didnt know Heath personally. (yes that is sarcasm :drevil
Since the death of princess Diana in the UK especially there seems to be the need to grieve or at least express grief publicly at every celebrity major to list D, while true tragedy is glossed over.
What you are saying is that because of the cult of celebrity the little people are not ignored but at best marginalised and barely acknowledged, because we "know" the celebrity through their work. Am I correct?
Im taking the view that I dont know him, so am applying a similar criteria, but also choosing to question the reported "facts" that his recent performance is the driver behind his tormented soul. I know it could be media distortion 2+2 =9 but I am saying if this guy was so tormented and as well loved as the media portrays why did no one offer help?
I should have also said that the real tragedy is his kid, however even there materially she should be sorted for life. Something that gefinately cant be said for service families left without a dad.
Green Lantern
New Member
No it wasnt aimed at anyone in particular, and to be honest it is from my frustration at seemingly being the only person on the planet that didnt know Heath personally. (yes that is sarcasm :drevil
Since the death of princess Diana in the UK especially there seems to be the need to grieve or at least express grief publicly at every celebrity major to list D, while true tragedy is glossed over.
What you are saying is that because of the cult of celebrity the little people are not ignored but at best marginalised and barely acknowledged, because we "know" the celebrity through their work. Am I correct?
Im taking the view that I dont know him, so am applying a similar criteria, but also choosing to question the reported "facts" that his recent performance is the driver behind his tormented soul. I know it could be media distortion 2+2 =9 but I am saying if this guy was so tormented and as well loved as the media portrays why did no one offer help?
I should have also said that the real tragedy is his kid, however even there materially she should be sorted for life. Something that gefinately cant be said for service families left without a dad.
Yes, the unknown people are forgotten when it comes to their passing. If I died tomorrow there would be no news reportings on the TV. Other than an obit in the paper, that's it. I am not a celebrity, so it wouldn't seem important to the news hounds, and since I am not part of this war that is going on, I wouldn't even get a brief mention in a news segue.
It is very sad that TV and the papers use death as news ratings. Who has the best coverage and so on. All I am saying is that, no matter who it is, famous or not, I find it sad when someone passes on. I don't think one's status in life should even be a factor in the relating of ones death, but it is sadly.
prberk
Well-Known Member
The truth is, even celebrity is fleeting -- it just takes a little longer for their light to dim. I made this point last night in teaching my youth group at church, when I asked how many of them had ever heard of River Phoenix, whose "untimely" death around 1993 hit Hollywood hard and was said to have been a "wakeup call" for the youth of Hollywood... Monuments and mementos were strewn all along the front entrance to Johnny Depp's Viper Room where he passed away... but none of them remain today, and none of my youth knew who River was.
So, even celebrity deaths, though heralded, are fleeting in our memories and on our culture.
Life on Earth is short and precious, and if anything, sometimes I think celebrity itself is a distraction. At the end of the day God gives us ALL one life here on Earth, and one death -- ashes to ashes, dust to dust, as the Bible says -- celebrity or not. And our "importance" may be overstated by celebrity for a while, but not forever. Only God (with the choices He allows us) determines our "forever".
Paul
So, even celebrity deaths, though heralded, are fleeting in our memories and on our culture.
Life on Earth is short and precious, and if anything, sometimes I think celebrity itself is a distraction. At the end of the day God gives us ALL one life here on Earth, and one death -- ashes to ashes, dust to dust, as the Bible says -- celebrity or not. And our "importance" may be overstated by celebrity for a while, but not forever. Only God (with the choices He allows us) determines our "forever".
Paul
Uponastar
Well-Known Member
I have a problem with celebrities in general. The ridiculous amounts of money they make, the unreal world they work and live in and the inflated self-images that the public feeds into...I wouldn't want that life for all the money in the world. But I do go to the movies and I do watch TV, so I do "know" these people in that way. So when one of them passes on, especially one so young, I'm somewhat interested. But, I don't have the need to know every detail. I don't need to see the body bag leaving the apartment building over and over again. And I don't want to hear every speculation, every possible scenario as to what happened...those were the final moments of a person's life. None of us belong there.
I know there is a trade-off that goes along with celebrity...The loss of privacy in exchange for the fame. To me, that's a higher price than I'd ever want to pay. The media feeds on the famous like vultures, and the public begs for more. Disgusting.
As far as a celebrity's death being more noteworthy than the average person's....I know everyone agrees that every death is a tragedy to someone. We don't spend all of our time publicly grieving, but that does not mean we do not grieve. It's a more personal grief...more heartfelt. Heath Ledger's death is personal to some people, too...his family and friends. I'm sure the media circus only adds to their grief.
I know there is a trade-off that goes along with celebrity...The loss of privacy in exchange for the fame. To me, that's a higher price than I'd ever want to pay. The media feeds on the famous like vultures, and the public begs for more. Disgusting.
As far as a celebrity's death being more noteworthy than the average person's....I know everyone agrees that every death is a tragedy to someone. We don't spend all of our time publicly grieving, but that does not mean we do not grieve. It's a more personal grief...more heartfelt. Heath Ledger's death is personal to some people, too...his family and friends. I'm sure the media circus only adds to their grief.