bryanfze55
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I enjoy the polls. You just came off as very snappy to one of the more respected posters on this site for asking a simple question. Perhaps it was unintended.
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Haunted Mansion vs Pirates of the Caribbean
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I enjoy the polls. You just came off as very snappy to one of the more respected posters on this site for asking a simple question. Perhaps it was unintended.
Yea, it wasn’t. I was simply answering what they were saying, as they came off annoyed at me. I didn’t know they were a “respected” poster lmao, didn’t know that was a thing.
Chef Mickey
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Good for you. Still wasn't 100% clear, and I still stand by it. Posting these other threads is meaningless.??
Uh...
What is the best version of Pirates Of The Caribbean in the world?
I’m starting a series of threads for the best ride versions of Disney rides around the world. I’m starting with a biggie, Pirates of the Caribbean. Which version do you think is the best, or what do you think is the ranking from worst to best?forums.wdwmagic.com
*CORRECTION* What is the best CLASSIC version of Pirates Of The Caribbean?
Last time, I made the mistake of adding Shanghai on to the rest of the classic versions of Pirates. I realized I made that mistake, so this time we’re just considering the original versions of this ride. Which version do you think is the best? Do you have a ranking of them?
What is the best version of The Haunted Mansion in the world?
Just like my last poll with Pirates, I am doing best ride version of Disney and Universal attractions from around the world. I am only doing the classic versions of The Haunted Mansion. No Phantom Manor or Mystic Manor. Also I know I made the mistake last time of including Shanghai on the last...
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By the way, I've been on this site for 3 years, it says on my profile.
Remove all doubt by saying WDW versions next time, because it's open to interpretation the way you presented.
Disney Analyst
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I will say I agree HM at MK beats Disneyland overall, but I have always preferred Disneyland’s attic, and now with the hat box ghost... chefs kiss.
Parker in NYC
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Surprise surprise.
Parker in NYC
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Surprise surprise.
MK’s Pirates is literally half of the DL ride. And the DLP version beats them both.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
That's because Pirates is drastically better over at Disneyland.
KBLovedDisney
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I will add, as much as I love both the rides, they used to come very close to which one was my top favorite.
But it will always be the Haunted Mansion.
(Side note: I like Pirates a little less now thanks to them changing one of my favorite scenes...)
But it will always be the Haunted Mansion.
(Side note: I like Pirates a little less now thanks to them changing one of my favorite scenes...)
Animaniac93-98
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(Side note: I like Pirates a little less now thanks to them changing one of my favorite scenes...)
Tokyo Disneyland still has this scene, with the original English audio.
Animaniac93-98
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I agree with others, that for WDW this contest would be closer if we were comparing past versions of the ride.
WDW Mansion was at its peak from 2007-2011. Pirates was from its opening in 1973 until the late 90s when the first changes started and upkeep was beginning to slide.
WDW Mansion was at its peak from 2007-2011. Pirates was from its opening in 1973 until the late 90s when the first changes started and upkeep was beginning to slide.
Animaniac93-98
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I agree Paris is a fantastic reworking of the whole experience from start to finish, but I would give props to WED and Marc Davis who made subtle changes for the Tokyo version.
At first glance, it's the same as California, but it has a number of edits, including:
- A split level indoor queue. Not as impressive as WDW or DLP, but better than outdoor switchbacks
- Darker caves with lower ceilings which changes the mood of the start of the ride
- The boats get closer to the well scene, like in Orlando
- More space between the chase scene and burning town, again like in Orlando
- A speedramp for the ending, instead of waiting in the boat to go up, something no subsequent version of Pirates ended with
- A proper ride through treasure room for Jack at the end, instead of the awkwardly tacked on box next to the lift hill he sits in California.
It's kind of like what could/should have been built for Orlando. Removing the "extra" gaps between scenes*, but not taking too much away. Like DLP the end result doesn't feel shorter than it is, unlike Orlando if you've been on the other rides.
*These gaps however, do give the DLR ride a different pacing that feels more cinematic. They contrast with the busier scenes in the same way action scenes do on film and add to the overall feeling that you're going on an extended adventure.
Marc Davis Fan
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Yeah, it seems like people's perceptions of attractions are dramatically affected by what hype we hear beforehand, even if we try hard to avoid being affected by it.
As one interesting example:
When I first went on DL's PotC, I didn't know it was different from WDWs... and I was blown away more than I've ever been on any attraction anywhere.
When I went on Shanghai's PotC, I had the expectation that it would be the greatest attraction in history, bar none. Needless to say, even as spectacular of an attraction as that left me a little underwhelmed after the insane hype about it.
I guess the lesson is that we should all at least try to assume that hype about attractions is not useful, and that there will be people who say nearly everything is the best thing since sliced bread, and that even the most spectacular attractions can be underwhelming if they're hyped to high heaven.*
As for Paris's PotC, let me just say "I liked it," and leave it at that
*...but I have to say, I was still blown away by RotR despite the hype, so I dunno...
Animaniac93-98
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I've been combing over videos of WDW's Pirates pre and post movie changes and its shocking how much you forget was changed over time. So many little visual and audio changes that made the ride much worse, even before you walk into the building.
The marquee and painting where the original and barker bird one was are both very tacky. Not having the cannons shoot outside as often makes Caribbean Plaza as a whole lose much of its atmosphere. The current music in the caves isn't moody or exciting, just dull. The Treasure Room space looks so empty. That big stage outside the room designed for 5 AAs and spraying water effects now with nothing. What's up with the pirates in the chase scene carrying a treasure chest running in a circle? Doesn't make as much sense as one person chasing another. Don't get me started on the chicken auction or the constant talking about Jack Sparrow.
Most of the ride is there, yes, but most of the life has been sucked out of it too.
The marquee and painting where the original and barker bird one was are both very tacky. Not having the cannons shoot outside as often makes Caribbean Plaza as a whole lose much of its atmosphere. The current music in the caves isn't moody or exciting, just dull. The Treasure Room space looks so empty. That big stage outside the room designed for 5 AAs and spraying water effects now with nothing. What's up with the pirates in the chase scene carrying a treasure chest running in a circle? Doesn't make as much sense as one person chasing another. Don't get me started on the chicken auction or the constant talking about Jack Sparrow.
Most of the ride is there, yes, but most of the life has been sucked out of it too.
Walt Disney1955
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The Disneyland Pirates is what I would pick above all else. Haunted Mansion might slightly take the cake over WDW Pirates. However, this is like choosing between lobster and steak. You can't go wrong. And whenever I pick one I always can make a case why I should have picked the other.
yensidtlaw1969
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I sense my opinion is surprisingly unpopular, but I'd put the Disneyland Original Pirates over the Shanghai Pirates ANY day of the week.Yeah, it seems like people's perceptions of attractions are dramatically affected by what hype we hear beforehand, even if we try hard to avoid being affected by it.
As one interesting example:
When I first went on DL's PotC, I didn't know it was different from WDWs... and I was blown away more than I've ever been on any attraction anywhere.
When I went on Shanghai's PotC, I had the expectation that it would be the greatest attraction in history, bar none. Needless to say, even as spectacular of an attraction as that left me a little underwhelmed after the insane hype about it.
I guess the lesson is that we should all at least try to assume that hype about attractions is not useful, and that there will be people who say nearly everything is the best thing since sliced bread, and that even the most spectacular attractions can be underwhelming if they're hyped to high heaven.*
As for Paris's PotC, let me just say "I liked it," and leave it at that
*...but I have to say, I was still blown away by RotR despite the hype, so I dunno...
For how much older the DL original is, I too expected more from Shanghai - it had all that money, tech, and time since 1967 in its favor and it didn't produce a ride experience as seamless, as convincing, as transportive, as artful . . . as satisfying as the original. DL's Pirates sets a high bar for sure, but they had every reason to be able to clear it in Shanghai and I don't think they did. Some handsome elements throughout, but the projection domes and miniscule Animatronic cast kill it for me. It's fun, it's big, but far from the modern masterpiece people make it out to be. Disneyland's Pirates, for all the damage it's suffered over the years, is still a masterpiece.
I really respect what Paris does, and it does some of those things quite beautifully - the sets are perhaps the most beautifully dressed of any Pirates, and its layout is ambitious, exciting, and richly inventive - but the ride itself does seem to be missing some of the breadth of the DL original. DL's has somehow always felt like more than the sum of its significant parts; DLP's feels right about equal to the sum of them.
I had a similar experience with DL's Pirates - first rode it at 10 years old after having grown up on WDW's Pirates, had no idea it would be any different . . . and at every turn it wowed. You get off really feeling like you've woken from a mysterious dream . . . could all of that really have happened? Even when you "know how it's done" it's still hard to calculate how they do all of that . . . how does it fit? When the cave opens up on the Wicked Wench you really wonder if you're still in the same Disneyland you were in 5 minutes ago. The ride is a revelation of space in an otherwise intimate park.
Imagine if they'd scaled UP the WDW version to match the scope of The Magic Kingdom rather than scaling it down the way they did. There's still a lot to love about WDW's Pirates - I think Shanghai's could stand to learn more from WDW's than WDW could stand to learn from Shanghai - but it could have really been THE thing. Which I suppose it would have if it had instead come to being as Western River Expedition as originally planned.
All this said, I still voted for The Haunted Mansion
But clearly there's a lot of nuance that's worth consideration.
VicariousCorpse
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I don't think it's an unpopular opinion at all, but I agree with everything you said.
MickeyLuv'r
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We play this game a fair amount at home, or at least we do when we're about to visit WDW/FL. It is always a fun for a discussion.
Both are great, but at MK, I give an edge to HM.
