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Haunted Mansion - Insight?
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WISH4EE@WDW
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Figment82 already said that is was used for Mike Fink keel boats dock. There is a little YouTube video (you can even here the HM in the background). Then here is a little info about it. Summary, it was an original ride from 1955 and closed sporadically through the 90's then finally closing in 1997.
Today, I've been to WDW when the overflow queue for HM go down into that dock; it was like a 2 and a half hour wait (near 4th of July). That's all I've seen it used for.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
1955? Maybe at Disneyland. That dock used to be a gift shop? When were the Mike Fink Keelboats added? I always figured they were there since the '70s before their closure in the '90s. Personally, I think Disneyland's Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes are much cooler.
That aside, the dock would make sense as a gift shop--it's not really being used anymore. However, am I right in thinking that if that wall weren't there, you could walk up into the HM construction site? Am I also right in thinking that's a nice place to take a dive into the RoA from? May be that nothing is going on there, they just don't want guests there during construction.
Vernonpush
Well-Known Member
The pictures of the dock are they on Tom Sawyer Island, how does the overflow queue for the HM get over there?:shrug:
Edit: Looking again, I see that the one pic is from the TSI of the river. Silly me.
Jekyll_Baker
Active Member
Actually that dock is just below HM FastPass distribution
WISH4EE@WDW
Member
Good I'm not going crazy! I knew it'd had been awhile since I'd been to WDW; but not that long! LOL
- The "Sinister Eleven" hallway is getting redone (look for some new poultergiest activity as you leave the boarding area)
-New Audio system
-Seance Room similar to Disneyland's
-New minor scene replaces the corny spiders on a web scene. Its based on the painting House of Stairs by MC Escher (also featured in the Jim Henson movie Labyrinth
-Attic similar to Disneyland's
Thats pretty much everything I know
-New Audio system
-Seance Room similar to Disneyland's
-New minor scene replaces the corny spiders on a web scene. Its based on the painting House of Stairs by MC Escher (also featured in the Jim Henson movie Labyrinth
-Attic similar to Disneyland's
Thats pretty much everything I know
NASAMan
Member
After just returning from making my second trip to Disneyland since their Mansion refurb, and the first time I was able to experience the Mansion (the first time it was down for NBC layover), I am thrilled to hear we will be seeing some of those wonderful scene elements in our WDW Mansion. (Sorry for the run on sentence!) The floating crystal ball blew me away - and then the bride, WOW! If this is indeed manifesting withing Gracey Manor, it will breath new life (pardon the pun!) into an already great attraction.
As for the dock area: Might some of the queue area be placed down there to make room for an exit store above?
As for the dock area: Might some of the queue area be placed down there to make room for an exit store above?
Are they fixing the stretching rooms at least?
not sure..but I would lean towards yes
stitch131313
New Member
I've heard that they might be doing more than just fixing the Stretch Rooms. I've heard that they might be adding some kind of effect in there. But it's just a rumor that a Mansion CM told me at work last week. So we'll see. I can't wait to see what they do come September. The attraction hasn't even been close a week and I'm already going threw Mansion withdrawals.
CoffeeJedi
Active Member
The note is signed by Master Gracey, who then titles himself as "Ghost Host". Is this official now that he is in fact the GH and the selfsame body whom we see swinging in the stretch room? WDW Cast Member canon had dictated that they were different individuals. I know that the DL and WDW mansions had different unofficial stories developed by the CM's, but some aspects have become official, like the names of the Hitchhiking Ghosts. How does this tie into DL's Black-Widow Bride backstory?
Questions, questions......
I can't wait to see what this brings!
Questions, questions......
I can't wait to see what this brings!
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
"of course, there's always my way..."
CoffeeJedi
Active Member
Yes, but, I always assumed that the body was the Ghost Host who cuts himself down at some point, as seen in this pic:
http://doombuggies.com/secrets_corridor.htm
Sulley
Member
As for the Dock, like someone said earlier they use it to extend the line on really busy days, so that the line is not blocking off the path from Liberty Square to Fantasyland. When they set it up the line starts at the old exit for that dock and you work you way to the old entrance of it, and follow it to the regular que for HM. If you look closely the entrance to that dock is on the other side of the wall. Looks like their just being extra careful someone doesn't slip through.
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Capt. Jack
New Member
So..is there any chance of it being opened by at least the end of August? Or is September 12+ the exact date of which its set to open?
ThinkTink721
Well-Known Member
Do you think it will reopen in time for the 1st MNSSHP?
:veryconfu :wave:
IcicleM
New Member
The picture of the man with the hatchet with the noose tied around his neck is indeed Master Gracey, and our Ghost Host. There are many stories that people can sit there and tell you, some of them go well together, but other stories sound and flow better than the others. One of the stories I've come to love is this one:
Master Gracey and Elizabeth were cousins. She was much younger than him, and he was a millionaire who had inherited the mansion from his father, after he died. Master Gracey lived with few servants, and was known to throw such elaborate parties. His father had taken in a gypsy woman off of the streets, whom none of the town folk liked. They called her a witch, and spread nasty rumors about her. It was only Master Gracey who could stop the town's leering eyes from peering over the house. This protection she received from Master Gracey caused her to fall in love with him, but sadly, he had eyes for another.
Elizabeth and Master Gracey fell in love, and Madame Leota hated this. She despised this new girl, and she believed that she was stealing Master Gracey from her. In disguise, she walked through town, spreading rumors that Elizabeth was a tramp, and that she had already slept with nearly all the bachelors in town. She told them that Elizabeth secretly wanted to kill him so she could inherit his mansion and his money. Leota hated Elizabeth and the town, but what she hated more than them was Master Gracey himself. She felt betrayed and hurt, and she wanted to curse him and Elizabeth and the whole town if she couldn't have her way.
When the rumors about Elizabeth and Master Gracey hit home, they tried to prove the people wrong by getting married and celebrating their union in front of everyone, showing their undying love for one another. Leota tried pleading to Master Gracey, saying she loved him, and she needed him. He refused her, and in despair, Leota went to her seance room, and she knew it was time to cast a spell; a curse. She would ensure that Elizabeth and Master Gracey would be torn apart forever.
Still being quite a child, Elizabeth wanted to play hide and seek with her new husband on their honeymoon. She hid in the attic, in a trunk, and some unseen spirit from beyond locked her within, and she suffocated to death. Leota's spell had worked. But it had backfired. It was too strong, and she ended up sealing herself in her own crystal ball. To this day, some say you can hear her spirit still channeling the "spirits from somewhere beyond."
As for Elizabeth, she still waits there, for her husband to come find her. After she died, the ground's keeper finally found her lifeless body in the attic when he was cleaning it out. During the funeral in front of the mansion, people still jeered at Master Gracey, saying that the love was false, and they accused him of murdering her because she had supposedly "cheated" on Master Gracey. He held the ring up before the town and declared that he loved her, and she would take his love to her grave, but something "spooked" the horse, and Master Gracey and the ring were flung from the hearse, and the ring was stomped into the cement. In a panic, one of the townsmen shot the horse, dead, for fear it may trample him too.
Gracey felt that he had finally lost everything. He lost his wife, his dignity, and the trust the townspeople had in him. He was alone, and wanted to be left that way. The parties stopped, the lights barely flickered at night, and the mansion became cold and dark. He wandered the halls aimlessly, searching for some speck of hope, but none would come. He drank himself to insanity, and found that he would sometimes see things or hear things. He thought he found himself in a room with no way out. He began to hyperventilate and panic, hearing voices laughing in his ears. They mocked him and taunted him, but somewhere in those voices, he heard Elizabeth's. A wall seemed to slide away in this room, and he followed her voice, calling for her name. He followed the voice up to the attic, and the voice convinced him to come to her. He obeyed, knowing only one way to come to her. He heard the spirits mocking him, still, telling him to free himself from this world. And so he did... Master Gracey tied a noose, threw it over the rafters, and hung himself.
In a way, the spirits were right. He did free himself... from his body. However, even when he was in death, Master Gracey never knew Elizabeth's exact location even when he was a mortal, so he wanders the spirit world of the mansion, still searching for her, and she still waits. And the curse still lives on. To those who walk into the house, they see the final moments of Master Gracey, of Elizabeth, and Madame Leota, and the spirits reveal themselves to the mortal world, so they can tell their story. 999 people died in that house, but there will always be room for one more...
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That's one of the stories I was told, and it's my favorite. Whenever I go through the mansion, I think of that story, and it makes the ride SO much scarier for me.
Master Gracey and Elizabeth were cousins. She was much younger than him, and he was a millionaire who had inherited the mansion from his father, after he died. Master Gracey lived with few servants, and was known to throw such elaborate parties. His father had taken in a gypsy woman off of the streets, whom none of the town folk liked. They called her a witch, and spread nasty rumors about her. It was only Master Gracey who could stop the town's leering eyes from peering over the house. This protection she received from Master Gracey caused her to fall in love with him, but sadly, he had eyes for another.
Elizabeth and Master Gracey fell in love, and Madame Leota hated this. She despised this new girl, and she believed that she was stealing Master Gracey from her. In disguise, she walked through town, spreading rumors that Elizabeth was a tramp, and that she had already slept with nearly all the bachelors in town. She told them that Elizabeth secretly wanted to kill him so she could inherit his mansion and his money. Leota hated Elizabeth and the town, but what she hated more than them was Master Gracey himself. She felt betrayed and hurt, and she wanted to curse him and Elizabeth and the whole town if she couldn't have her way.
When the rumors about Elizabeth and Master Gracey hit home, they tried to prove the people wrong by getting married and celebrating their union in front of everyone, showing their undying love for one another. Leota tried pleading to Master Gracey, saying she loved him, and she needed him. He refused her, and in despair, Leota went to her seance room, and she knew it was time to cast a spell; a curse. She would ensure that Elizabeth and Master Gracey would be torn apart forever.
Still being quite a child, Elizabeth wanted to play hide and seek with her new husband on their honeymoon. She hid in the attic, in a trunk, and some unseen spirit from beyond locked her within, and she suffocated to death. Leota's spell had worked. But it had backfired. It was too strong, and she ended up sealing herself in her own crystal ball. To this day, some say you can hear her spirit still channeling the "spirits from somewhere beyond."
As for Elizabeth, she still waits there, for her husband to come find her. After she died, the ground's keeper finally found her lifeless body in the attic when he was cleaning it out. During the funeral in front of the mansion, people still jeered at Master Gracey, saying that the love was false, and they accused him of murdering her because she had supposedly "cheated" on Master Gracey. He held the ring up before the town and declared that he loved her, and she would take his love to her grave, but something "spooked" the horse, and Master Gracey and the ring were flung from the hearse, and the ring was stomped into the cement. In a panic, one of the townsmen shot the horse, dead, for fear it may trample him too.
Gracey felt that he had finally lost everything. He lost his wife, his dignity, and the trust the townspeople had in him. He was alone, and wanted to be left that way. The parties stopped, the lights barely flickered at night, and the mansion became cold and dark. He wandered the halls aimlessly, searching for some speck of hope, but none would come. He drank himself to insanity, and found that he would sometimes see things or hear things. He thought he found himself in a room with no way out. He began to hyperventilate and panic, hearing voices laughing in his ears. They mocked him and taunted him, but somewhere in those voices, he heard Elizabeth's. A wall seemed to slide away in this room, and he followed her voice, calling for her name. He followed the voice up to the attic, and the voice convinced him to come to her. He obeyed, knowing only one way to come to her. He heard the spirits mocking him, still, telling him to free himself from this world. And so he did... Master Gracey tied a noose, threw it over the rafters, and hung himself.
In a way, the spirits were right. He did free himself... from his body. However, even when he was in death, Master Gracey never knew Elizabeth's exact location even when he was a mortal, so he wanders the spirit world of the mansion, still searching for her, and she still waits. And the curse still lives on. To those who walk into the house, they see the final moments of Master Gracey, of Elizabeth, and Madame Leota, and the spirits reveal themselves to the mortal world, so they can tell their story. 999 people died in that house, but there will always be room for one more...
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That's one of the stories I was told, and it's my favorite. Whenever I go through the mansion, I think of that story, and it makes the ride SO much scarier for me.
iheartdisney91
Well-Known Member
im so happy im not the only one that noticed that. hahaha
...oh be nice now! JK
love the "new" entrance. the flower pots look nice. i little to new tho for the mansion idk