Haunted Mansion Attic Scene Before 2007 Refurb

CaptainEO95

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Original Poster
I was wondering if anyone else besides me really misses the old neon-lit Bride and pop-up ghost grooms that once inhabited the HM attic scene. I felt that those characters played a major role in the ride. Plus the newish "changing portraits" that replaced the pop-ups you can buy at a drugstore during the Halloween season for around five bucks. Anyone else miss them?:veryconfu
 

Fievel

RunDisney Addict
Yup...I like the new scene better....the old bride never felt like a ghost....

There is a sense of story in the attic now.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Not at all. While I do see some room for improvement with the new bride, it was a huge step up from the mannequin with a fan on it that uses to be there.
 

ShookieJones

We need time for things to happen.
No comparison, the new attic scene blows away the old one. Agree with a few of the other posters that this is was one of better refurbs around WDW.
 

wolf359

Well-Known Member
Overall, I think the new attic is an improvement and I really like the disappearing head portraits but I'm not sold on the bride. The projection technology and the overall look just seems out of place in the mansion.
 

yankspy

Well-Known Member
I never liked the neon bride. The one before that one with the beating heart was much spookier. Overall, I like the new one the best.
 

MAF

Well-Known Member
That was the last great refurb WDW has done. Everything went downhill after that one, ie. Spaceship Earth, Space Mountain, ect.
 

Scuttle

Well-Known Member
I like the new attic scene as well. It's pretty creepy in my opinion and yes it's one of the better refurbs WDI has done recently.
 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
The new bride is the ONLY thing i disliked about the 2007 refurb (in fact, i like ALL the additions to the mansion since then, including the new queue and hitch hiking ghosts. I don't miss the popups in there, they were loud and corny (not to mention a cheap jump scare for me as a kid, i never liked the mansion when i was little as they startled me, but not in a good way). The new portraits with the husbands' heads disappearing and reappearing is very well done and presents and very disturbing and moody atmosphere.

Until you get to the bride herself. I realize i'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but whatever. I'm not trying to troll anyone, be sure of that. The new bride just comes off to me as corny (much like the popups used to feel). And the effect itself looks bad for some reason. I don't know how the Leota effect and marble busts can look so amazing (even with age-old tech), there's just something that looks very unfinished about the new effect. I can immediately tell it's a projection and it just doesn't look right. I think it needed more tweaking. The smaller one at the end of the ride looks fine however (great i'd say).

The new bride Constance ruined the atmosphere for me. Ironic considering the old pop up ghosts interfered with the atmosphere in the old version. She stands there making horrible death puns in a goofy way. The old one didn't have to say anything or even move for that matter. Kind of odd, but in this case, less is so much more. The creepy factor came from not being able to see her face under there, just her glowing sinister eyes. You KNEW something frightening was up with her without her even having to speak or move. Sort of a fear of the unknown. It frightens you on a deeper subconscious level. She doesn't HAVE to make joking murder puns, pull out a hatchet, or brag about how she offed her husbands. All she had to do is stand there with her beating heart, glowing eyes, and obscured face. That was a truly well done and frightening character. The scene itself was amazingly enhanced, just sad that her story and concept felt downgraded (as well as the technology powering it looking rather low tech and unfinished).

It's kind of funny. Half the attic scene was heavily improved and rid of the corny popups in favor of a new more disturbing element. Contrarily (in my opinion) the other half was brought down to the cheesy factor of the popup ghosts with a somewhat poorly executed projection effect. I'm sorry to those who like it, but this is my true feeling on the matter. To me, the attic was one step forward, but one equal step backwards. I wish they could have kept the concept of the old silent and veiled bride, but just improved her with newer effects (she didn't need anything though imo). Coupled with the new beheading portraits, it would have been the ultimate creepy moody scene and the feeling would be complete.

I'd still say the Mansion underwent a huge improvement and is still being enhanced to this day. It's just that one major problem that nags at me. Overall, i still adore the ride and say that it's MOSTLY better than it ever was (love the Escher room and the new portraits in the attic).

I'm also not sure what this "neon bride" is. I've only seen the version used before 1997 or so (last i went before revisiting after the 2007 refurb). It's the one with the lit beating heart and glowing eyes, whichever that was. The one that looked like this (though i think this was Disneyland's)-
http://waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/40c04990.jpg

BTW, zombie jack in the boxes are also easy to get in a store at Halloween. Not really the tech powering them, but the concept that is scary. And for me, the portraits were much moodier and well-suited to a creepy attic than some cheap scare jumps.
 

wolf359

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I agree with Merlin's assessment.

For me the technology behind the bride is too obvious, and looks very two-dimensional. Even the 150-year-old Pepper's Ghost effect is more clever and effective; the bride just looks like a video screen. Perhaps if she wasn't so close to the buggies it wouldn't be as bad.

But she also seems out of place creatively as well. She's too on-the-nose of a reveal when everything else is implied or seen in silhouette or fleeting glimpse. She also seems too realistic compared to the original caricatured ghosts, distorted and cartoony. Plus the dialog and electric charge as she conjures her axe is much more Tower of Terror than Haunted Mansion.
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Hmmm...well, while I think the new Bride is a definite improvement, she's still not all that convincing. You can tell it's a projection, and she's kind of in a weird location, it seems to me. She also seems too...modern? And not very menacing. So I don't get a creepy vibe from her. She ought to be scarier, although I'm not sure what could be done, aside from gore (and that has no place in the Mansion despite it being a haunted house).

But overall the Mansion refurb is a huge success IMO. I visited WDW a couple of years before the refurb, and the Mansion was in very sad shape then. I was so happy when I saw the improvements afterward. The Imagineers deserve major kudos for the fine work they did.
 

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