Has the wdwmagic tide turned???

[DisneyNut2007]

But, seeing now that the number of complains have risen higher than normal, it would seem that Disney has started to turn away from the guests and has gone to gain profit...

FYI, that's not entirely true.

I agree with JeffK and GenerationX. It's already well-known that I can't stand the over-the-top negativity in these forums. It's too much! There's nothing wrong with being disappointed in a particular decision that gets made, but that is no excuse to dismiss the entire company as being "evil" or "unsympathetic".

After all, it IS one thing to disagree on some of the company's decisions (particularly of such criticisms are done constructively and professionally), but to go about bashing them like crazy (as some members that I won't mention tend to do) is a totally different matter.

The overly-negative nature of these "fake fans" tends to give those of us who truly do care about Disney a bad name and makes some like me even feel bad about being a Disney-lover.

Why can't there be a happy medium in online forums anymore?

 

[WDITrent]

I haven't been on this site for years and years, but I think it's all on TDO. The more stupid things they do, the more WDWmagic is concerned. And these aren't silly things like "They cloned an awesome ride and put it in the Land. Travesty!" They're more directed at the fact that Disney doesn't finish their refurbishments, the only new attractions come straight out of marketing, and the overall feeling of the World is growing exponentially commercial.

 

[DisneyNut2007]

They're more directed at the fact that Disney doesn't finish their refurbishments, the only new attractions come straight out of marketing, and the overall feeling of the World is growing exponentially commercial.

See? It's reasons like that that make me even more disgusted with the sorry state of these forums being overrun with negative types and negative thinking.

 

[bellhop13]

But, seeing now that the number of complains have risen higher than normal, it would seem that Disney has started to turn away from the guests and has gone to gain profit, as for any other company would do, but...the truth is...if you listen to the guests concerns, ideas, and reviews, Disney could turn the tide of things and make things better.

how true, how true. I think that's where a lot of the dissatisfaction comes from, not so much with WDI but with their boss.

 

[unkadug]

I still don't see why a muli-billion dollar company would look at such a small segment of its fanbase, like this site, to gauge public response. Better business practice would be to ask people who are actually in the park, real paying customers.

The only reason Disney would monitor this site is to protect their trademarks.

And I don't see the purpose of your continued haranguing of members of this forum.

 

[Studios Fan]

The tone has been more negative recently but I think a lot of that has to do with the lack of new things, cuts (LoW and Space's refurb), and the unknown of how good the Fantasyland expansion is going to be.

I don't see anything wrong with holding Disney accountable as we are emotionally / financially invested in the company. I am as big a Disney fan as anybody, but I also am willing to admit when they don't do things right or good enough. Last year had two great examples. HoP was great and Space Mtn was really lacking. I have no problem giving them praise for things they do right.

My big feeling is that the parks need expansions. Studios should gut the Backlot Tour and expand Pixar Place. More long-term if the Marvel rights become available then they should add that to the park as well. DAK needs major expansion as well. The problem is the philosophy is that Disney says "people will come no matter what" and I think that tide is starting to turn somewhat. It's one of the reasons I hope Potter does well because competition can only help WDW.

 

[bellhop13]

The problem is the philosophy is that Disney says "people will come no matter what" and I think that tide is starting to turn somewhat. It's one of the reasons I hope Potter does well because competition can only help WDW.

I don't visit Universal that often but I do hope they stick around because they do exactly that, they keep Disney on their toes.

 

[WDW Monorail]

I hope folk that design new aircraft or hospital equipment dont have a similar attitude.

Those of us with a full brain, and the associated abilities that brings have assumed that a multinational company of Disney’s size would have had someone make the mountings of sufficient strength to withstand the forces of its mechanised movements. Perhaps they could have spoken with proper structural engineers who seem to overcome far bigger problems in constructing buildings and bridges.

But then you do seem to have climbed into Jts seat as the resident Company man.

So about that Pinto, or the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, or the Boeing-787. Shouldn't the companies producing them have hired the proper engineers to know that the fuel tank would be vulnerable in a rear end collision, or that when the frequency of the wind achieved the natural resonance frequency of the bridge the bridge would begin to vibrate violently or that the high degree of wing flex on the aircraft would cause a stress fracture in less flight time than expected?

As far as I know, cars, bridges and planes had been built prior to the examples I listed but I don't think a movable Yeti atop a rock was ever created until Everest. With the exception of the real Yeti over in the Himalayas.

 

[kimmychad]

Completely agree, except for the bold. I would say its more like most of the business downturn is Disney's own making.

It seems like it's much easier to offer discounts than to fix any perceived problems.

 

[misterID]

Some of you guys obviously haven't heard that we are in a revolt... I don't think a revolt with only positive chanting about mediocrity would be very effective.

 

[bellhop13]

sarcasm?

 

[misterID]

Yes.

In seriousness, good companies want to hear the negatives. I can tell you a lot of people in Disney would like more people complaining about the state of WDW.

If you didn't complain about what's wrong, nothing would get done to correct it.

 

[bellhop13]

damn, I already made tshirts!

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

So about that Pinto, or the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, or the Boeing-787. Shouldn't the companies producing them have hired the proper engineers to know that the fuel tank would be vulnerable in a rear end collision, or that when the frequency of the wind achieved the natural resonance frequency of the bridge the bridge would begin to vibrate violently or that the high degree of wing flex on the aircraft would cause a stress fracture in less flight time than expected?

As far as I know, cars, bridges and planes had been built prior to the examples I listed but I don't think a movable Yeti atop a rock was ever created until Everest. With the exception of the real Yeti over in the Himalayas.

[FONT=&quot]Are you seriously comparing the engineering complexity of an aircraft or bridge to that of a waving skeleton in a furry suit in a fixed location? No doubt you are as this place is indeed full of fan boys who will apologise for everything. Were the waterfalls new tech too?. But the fact that you have had to use such dated examples and one who hasnt even made it to service should be taken as support for my original point.[/FONT]

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Yes.

In seriousness, good companies want to hear the negatives. I can tell you a lot of people in Disney would like more people complaining about the state of WDW.

If you didn't complain about what's wrong, nothing would get done to correct it.

With TDO, I seriously doubt that. They are not wont to listen to us, their track record shows no consistent proof of them taking our opinions for consideration.

 

[EpcotServo]

Oooo...I'm staying in here. It's warm in here with all that hot air!

 

[Random Vids Inc]

^ That, and see if they actually will recognize our efforts.

Efforts? Posting on forums? Seriously that's pretty sad.

 

[misterID]

With TDO, I seriously doubt that. They are not wont to listen to us, their track record shows no consistent proof of them taking our opinions for consideration.

Oh yeah, you're totally right about the TDO high ups. But the people inside TDO who want things to change want more complaints.

For Disney to listen to us we'd have to go over their heads... Tom Staggs?

 

[bellhop13]

Oh yeah, you're totally right about the TDO high ups. But the people inside TDO who want things to change want more complaints.

For Disney to listen to us we'd have to go over their heads... Tom Staggs?

what made them finally get rid of the wand over SSE? was it guest complaints?

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

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