Matt_Black
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No, but pulling out a small tile from a mosaic doesn't need a hammer and pry bar. You could do that with a pocket knife.
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Has Disney lost their knack for the details?
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No, but pulling out a small tile from a mosaic doesn't need a hammer and pry bar. You could do that with a pocket knife.
DisneyPrincess5
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I guess beauty, or in this case detail, is in the eye of the beholder. I am someone who is extremely observant so I definitely notice all of the minuscule details that make each attraction, walkway, ceiling, bathroom, trash can unique. I appreciate it all.
Goofyernmost
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Finally, a legitimate reason to carry a pocket knife into a theme park. Now I can sleep peacefully again.
NearTheEars
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I'm late to the party, but are we talking a drinking fountain or a decorative fountain.
Now how would this all be accomplished undetected by a jam packed restaurant? Assuming you can get in the park with a knife.
Matt_Black
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The big Gaston fountain outside.
I don't know. I don't even know if they're using pocket knives. All I know is what I've heard from other posters here- that the mosaic was gradually ruined due to guests snagging pieces.
Phonedave
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True, to a point. The queue for TSMM is an prime example. The giant playing cards are paper laminated to a substrate. They are all well behind the railing of the queue, yet many have some of the paper peeling off. Clearly they are not intended to be touched, yet people not only touch them, but actively peel the paper off. Why? What makes that acceptable to anyone is beyond me.
-dave
Phonedave
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If they can pop up a tile, even with a pocket knife, so easily that they can do it undetected, then it is a case of a poor install. Use a good polymer modified thinset and an epoxy grout, and it's not going anywhere without a whole lot of effort.
-dave
Matt_Black
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And if houses will built entirely out of non-flammable materials, people wouldn't commit arson.
It's not acceptable but you have to account for the folks that stand in line for long periods and fidget with things. They have short attention spans.
Phonedave
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The thing is, modified thinset and epoxy grout are commonly used building practices. Mosaic floor tiles should not pop up easily, not in the entrance of a WDW restaruant, nor in the floor of a residentail shower install.
Houses made entirely of inflammable materials are not practical, nor are they standard building practices. A floor mosaic in a high traffic area should be built to withstand the traffic. Heck, epoxy grout and modified thinset might even be TCNA standards for such an install for all I know.
Your offered strawman is not a valid comparison.
-dave
rob0519
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According to some people here they regularly carry a three inch folding knife into the park and it is allowed under current policies.
powderehss
Member
I've heard speculation from Creepy Kingdom's podcast that WDW might not keep the details up as much as Disneyland because the majority of WDW's guests are often families and groups who go every so often/couple of years as opposed to Disneyland's, who are more frequent and are more likely to spot differences in the quality of certain things like scenery compared to people who visit every few years to WDW like my family.
Though I thought the details were pretty alright when I went in March. Then again I didn't really have time to look around and look at stuff because my folks kept rushing us around to go on rides
Though I thought the details were pretty alright when I went in March. Then again I didn't really have time to look around and look at stuff because my folks kept rushing us around to go on rides
Goofyernmost
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It is also within a reasonable degree of reality that there are no tiles missing, no one is picking at floor tile mosaics and this rumor is just a massive pile of crap. That happens quite often around here. It seems quite unreasonable to think that someone(s) is able to vandalize to any degree and not be seen by others, don't you think?
powderehss
Member
Yeah. You always get those high schoolers that like to pry things off of exhibits and take them home as "souvenirs"...
I never get why kids like to do that!
I never get why kids like to do that!
Goofyernmost
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Most of it is done under the influence of our old buddy Al Cohol. As a teen, myself and a bunch of friends stayed in a hotel in NY, where booze was available for age 18 at the time. Sometime in the evening we got it into our heads that we could collect the direction signs on the walls to take home with us. You know, the "to rooms 101 to 120 --> To The pool <--," etc. A couple of us still had those signs up in our rooms for years after. There is no real limit to possible stupidity.
Phonedave
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It may very well be that no tiles are missing and that people on these forums making things up - that is totally within reason. Unfortunately, I also find it within reason that people ARE taking tiles.
In the interest of trying to get to the bottom of this tile mystery, I did some searching around. About the most plausable story that I can find is that the mosaics are not holding up to all of the traffic that they see, and tiles were beginning to pop loose (which can happen if the substrate moves and is not decoupled from the tile. Something like Ditra would have been userful if this is indeed the case). Then, when the tiles did pop loose, guests were further hastening the deteration by picking / kicking at them.
That sounds quite plausable to me.
-dave
aladdin2007
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I was thinking about this yesterday while in Epcot about how details have been stripped away. For instance in Living with the Land, there use to be a fire in the distance effect in the prairie scene, gone. The heat effect in the first part of the prairie scene, gone. All the animatronics have been removed in the rainforest scene except for one monkey, the rest gone.....The little roman chariot projection effect in the roman scene and the little lit phoenician boat on the opposite side of that main scene in Spaceship Earth gone, of course the descent mess as well. There were several others that came to mind yesterday I dont recall at the moment, but things like that as little as they were is what made Disney Disney for me. It was about attention to detail and theme and design. They have made sure in recent times to take these things away more and more. They cant cost much or anything at all to repair except for maybe animatronics etc.... even the new rock wall closed up waterfall in Norway, they could have done something more with that they barely put a plant there, and its ugly and boring.
Goofyernmost
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That part is plausible to me as well. The part that I doubted were that people were digging them out for souvenirs. If something is loose I can easily see someone picking up a random piece.
DABIGCHEEZ
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We got a few last time... they look great on our mantle.