Has anyone heard of this offer yet?

cowanfamily

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I came across this offer on another board. I wasn't sure if it had any validity to it or not. Has anyone heard of this yet?

"Hi my friends, we have our trip already booked for september with the FD, but i know that a lot of fellow disers are waiting for this big new, (THIS IS INTERNAL INFORMATION) ok, this is the NEW FREE DINING OFFER, it will be available for all in AUGUST 3 .

these are the dates and the conditions of the new offer

Bookings Between August 3, 2011 - December 17, 2011
Travel Dates
October 2, 2011 - October 8, 2011
October 23, 2011 - November 5, 2011
November 13, 2011 - November 19, 2011
November 27, 2011 - December 3, 2011
December 11, 2011 - December 17,

Free Quick Service Dining for values and regular dining for moderates deluxe and villas

Minimum Stay: 3 Nights – Maximum Stay: 14 Nigths.


THE CODE FOR THIS PROMOTION WILL BE FCX FOR VALUES WITH QUICK SERVICE DINING AND FCY FOR MODERATES DELUXE AND VILLAS WITH REGULAR DINING.

I know that this will make a lot of people very very happy and for that reason I share this will all of you.

Have a magical vacation and be ready for August 3"
 

cowanfamily

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Original Poster
Other than that one guy posting the bad information (using 3-year-old codes) on the DISboards, I haven't seen any other legitimate information. Usually, by now, someone has leaked actual evidence.

I call bluff. My prediction is that free dining is done, and that they MAY offer room discounts. But, we're awfully close to October to be releasing discounts, which tells me that their room occupancy is high enough that they don't need to beg people to come.



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DisneyJoe

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I call bluff. My prediction is that free dining is done, and that they MAY offer room discounts. But, we're awfully close to October to be releasing discounts, which tells me that their room occupancy is high enough that they don't need to beg people to come.

They released AP rates today too for October 2 - December 24, 2011....
 
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bayoubelle

amuck, amuck, amuck
Thanks for the heads up on free dining-rebooked this morning. I do not love free dining and this is the first time that I've booked it. It doesn't look like it's going away though so we might as well take advantage of it.
 
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Tom

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They released AP rates today too for October 2 - December 24, 2011....

I always expect AP and FL discounts, but I definitely didn't expect 6 more months of Free Dining.

well played! Nice to see some still have a sense of humor!

:)

It seems that Iger's evil plan to wean guests off of discounts is stretching out a bit longer than he expected. Granted, they're only offering it for a week at a time, ever 2-3 weeks, but as long as your check-in date falls in one of the windows, you qualify...ensuring that many trips will still qualify.

I just shake my head.
 
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jklakeview

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Sorry for the insults and calling people morons......but I take it as an insult when someone compares a discount to food stamps. There are some people who genuinely need help and it's not completely their fault. I'm lucky to not have to be one of those people, but who knows what may happen in the future. Comparing a discount to food stamps is sort of small minded.
 
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GoofGoof

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I'm going to chime in with my simple thoughts on the DDP and Disney Dining in general.

The DDP was initially invented for one reason - the very same reason they invented Magical Express: to keep you on property. That was THE reason. If they prohibit you from renting a car, you can't escape. And if you've pre-paid for all of your meals, you won't try to escape and eat off property or go to Universal. It really was that simple.

Then, the bean counters saw that they weren't MAKING enough money on the meals being consumed by DDP-ers (note, I said "not making enough" because they're not losing a penny on those meals...they're just not making as much profit per plate as they do on OOP-ers. Keep in mind that it costs them less than $10 in food/labor to serve your $35 TS entree. And don't get me started on the profit margin built into desserts.), so they've gradually increased menu prices (to get more money from the OOP-ers) and adjusted the cost of the DDP at a slightly faster pace.

At the same time, they also slightly reduced portions and the quality of food to lower costs. Eventually, those graphed lines will come extremely close to each other, or actually intersect if they keep up the current pace - thus rendering the DDP a "wash".

Meanwhile, OOP-ers are picking up the tab for the earnings lost on DDP-ers, and even more so for Free-DDP-ers.

As for the inability to get a table in short notice, that's attributed to all of the factors. Since the advent of the DDP, table service meals have been ushered into the spotlight. When I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, we didn't eat at a table service restaurant in all of the numerous trips to WDW. The line of thought was "Who eats a fancy dinner at Disney World?" I'm sure many people thought like that as well....and/or they were venturing off to eat at a $9.99 buffet on 192 (like we did).

So, with attendance increasing over the years, table service restaurants being more prominent and known, the encouragement of guests to eat at them via the DDP, and then the seasonal influx of guests eating TS meals when they're giving them out for free....it all adds up to full tables all the time, which is exactly what Disney wants. As long as all of the tables are full, they don't care who's upset.

And honestly, as someone else implied, Free Dining isn't really to blame. They're merely robbing Peter to pay Paul. You can either book a room for up to 40% off and pay for food...or you can pay rack rate for your room and get food for free. Plus, when they throw in mandatory extras like the PhotoPass book, you'd actually come out money ahead with the Room Discount and smart spending OOP.

Lastly, the DDP is truly only a "deal" if you would have normally ordered everything that comes with the DDP if you were paying OOP. So, if you always get a soda/tea, full entree, and dessert...then yes, the DDP is a deal for you. But here at home, when we go out to eat, we always drink water and never have room for dessert. Therefore, the DDP includes far more product that we'd ever buy normally. And when we add up the cost of the food we'd buy OOP, it totals a sum far less than the cost of the DDP.

The DDP is a "perceived" savings, based only upon the (essentially) prix fixe menu you've been assigned. I will admit that we succumb to the marketing gimmick called the DDP, but we do it solely for convenience and to create a thoughtless experience while we're there. We know we're being taken, but I also know I'd NEVER pay for a drink or enjoy their desserts if I was swiping my own credit card at each meal. We'd be eating like [something that doesn't eat very much].

Take this for what you will. None of what I've said is opinion. It's all factual. (It's actual. Everything is satisfactual). However, my one piece of opinion....

They should reserve a % of tables (say, 10-15%) every day, all day, for walk-ins or guests who book that morning via concierge or Guest Services. I know Disney would HATE to do this, because it means they don't have every table filled in advance, but it would be a nice gesture to the locals who just want to have dinner in Epcot for a night, and to those who don't know if they'll want steak or spaghetti 6 months in advance. This one little thing would solve 99% of the griping with the DDP (except for the lesser quality food, but people would get over that if they were at least given the opportunity to eat it).

I think you nailed it. If you have the option of offering a room discount or a free meal plan it makes sense for Disney to offer the meals. If you have the meal plan it is hard to justify going off site for very long on your trip. If you spent 2 days at Universal and 1 at Sea World during a week stay you would probably not end up using all of your dining credits. The hope is that by locking you into reservations 6 months in advance they are keeping you on property. However, with room discounts there really is nothing keeping you from going other places for extended time on your trip. I never really considered the concept that the quality has gone down, but I definitely noticed it is harder to get a table at a sit down dinner if you wait until right before your trip.

If I am staying at a DVC resort on points I assume I could still buy the DDP, but it seems like maybe the Tables in Wonderland 20% discount might be a better deal. If we have 8 people staying in a 2 bedroom villa (2 families) and we all go to dinner together do we get 20% off the entire bill?
 
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JustInTime

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I came across this offer on another board. I wasn't sure if it had any validity to it or not. Has anyone heard of this yet?

"Hi my friends, we have our trip already booked for september with the FD, but i know that a lot of fellow disers are waiting for this big new, (THIS IS INTERNAL INFORMATION) ok, this is the NEW FREE DINING OFFER, it will be available for all in AUGUST 3 .

these are the dates and the conditions of the new offer

Bookings Between August 3, 2011 - December 17, 2011
Travel Dates
October 2, 2011 - October 8, 2011
October 23, 2011 - November 5, 2011
November 13, 2011 - November 19, 2011
November 27, 2011 - December 3, 2011
December 11, 2011 - December 17,

Free Quick Service Dining for values and regular dining for moderates deluxe and villas

Minimum Stay: 3 Nights – Maximum Stay: 14 Nigths.


THE CODE FOR THIS PROMOTION WILL BE FCX FOR VALUES WITH QUICK SERVICE DINING AND FCY FOR MODERATES DELUXE AND VILLAS WITH REGULAR DINING.

I know that this will make a lot of people very very happy and for that reason I share this will all of you.

Have a magical vacation and be ready for August 3"


I got this offer in the mail already. It had two options: one for free dinning thru December and also a 30% off room rate for the fall.
 
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Tom

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Yeah, jklakeview bumped a year-old thread. We should probably stop discussing it now....rather than waste a ton of time arguing over a discount from a year ago, LOL.
 
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jklakeview

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I love free dining and I have to say I think the food is delicious. I do agree that you have to plan out your dining if you have favorite restaurants, but with park hopping it's never an issue for us. We go to all of our favorites and most of the popular restaurants as well. We never have a problem booking and planning because we usually look at which parks will be least crowded and then decide where to eat. For restaurants located in resorts, we figure when we want to go and which times are best for us. We usually to O'Hana later to watch the fireworks from the beach and whispering canyon after Animal Kingdom. We LOVE it and never have any issues.
 
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crosswagon

Member
We got a free dining pin offer through email. The dates are very limited. December was the 10h thru 13th. We decided to check in on the 13th and we will get the dining plan through the duration of our stay. We had plans to come at this time anyway so this was an added perk. We always do quick service and love the freedom of whatever park we are in to have our meal and continue on with the fun. We usually try to find something new but we are content with what we get. Our kids are grown so the character meals do not matter and they do not want any reservations slowing them down. I feel like the free dining offer actually saves you money when there are 6 adults and you stay in a Value. But everyone has to crunch their own numbers to see what fits them best.
 
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draybook

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I know that the comments are old but I don't understand how the food quality has gotten worse. The hamburgers taste like hamburgers to us. Everything tastes like food outside of Disney to us. Not only that but I eat like a horse and I get filled, so I'd hate to see what kind of portions they were giving out before.
 
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lighteningqueen

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I agree... Our first trip was Dec 2007 we paid for the DDp one TS one QS and 2 snacks at the time. The food still taste the same as it did back then and we have gone every year.. Portions have gone down is all. Actually menus have changed very little and are starting to become boring .. But we just did the crunching and doing the plan is so much easier paying than carrying all that cash. We carry enough to pay all our tips for each day and I know the cost for that meal so I envelope and label the days and take that one with us for the day ..plus it has our mousekeeping tip per day included..
 
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wendysue

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*sigh*
Really? They haven't dropped that free dining nonsense yet?
I guess they are determined to kill the dining at the resort.

I used to think this way, but now they have raised the prices so high for food, that you really either have to participate in the free dining offers, bring your own, or walk to the McDonalds outside of All Star Sports.....
 
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Tom

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I used to think this way, but now they have raised the prices so high for food, that you really either have to participate in the free dining offers, bring your own, or walk to the McDonalds outside of All Star Sports.....

This is the gimmick. They've inflated the menu prices so high that when you do the math, you're "saving money" by using the DDP. But still, at those menu prices, the food quality should be MUCH higher.
 
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