Has anyone heard a rumor about paying for extra fast passes?

bgraham34

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$200 for our 10-day ticket then. Considering Universal charges as high as $86 per day for their Unlimited Express Pass, I say Disney's would still be a good value. As long as it's not tiered!

Its people like you who ruin the whole experience for everyone else. Why would you want to pay more for something that was one time free. Makes no sense. Stand up with your wallet and dont spend the money.
 

biggy H

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$10 a day doesn't sound much but if you're from the UK with a 21 day ticket that could be an extra $210 per person so you are approaching the $1000 extra for a 4 person family.
They would need to be able to have this so you could pay extra on the days you want it, not for everyday of your ticket.
 

bhg469

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Its people like you who ruin the whole experience for everyone else. Why would you want to pay more for something that was one time free. Makes no sense. Stand up with your wallet and dont spend the money.
One could argue that universal was smarter for charging for it. It has always been my opinion the fast pass system should have been a premium, now that a one day tickets is astronomical I disagree with any extra charges. From day one it should have been a charge for the service or only for resort guests or some other special exception to entice people to upgrade. They've ruined that for themselves by asking $140 for a 1 day pass, now all guests will demand everything for that cost, as they should.
 

WendyTinkerbell

Active Member
The paying something extra for something that was once free is the interesting argument here. That's why I brought up the E-Ride Nights. To me, that's kind of like a combination of the evening "Extra Magic Hours" and/or the MNSSHP or MVMCP. Extra Magic Hours are currently free for resort guests (although they are being scaled back a bit). And many people happily pay extra for the evening parties (which besides a few extra activities, it just provides less crowds for the rides). Many of the party nights sell out every year. (They also now charge for many of the tastings at the F&W festival that used to be free).

There are at least two comments on here where people said they would happily pay extra if they brought back the E-Ride Nights. (Something that is "free" now).

So, I think many people would pay extra for more fastpasses. In a way, it's kind of like the park hopper. For the people that want to park hop, they pay extra. Or the people that want to go play mini-golf or the water parks, they pay extra.

They could do many things with the fastpass add-on. They could have an option that you get to just pick the days you want extra fastpasses, instead of having it for everyday of the ticket. (They may need this option for AP holders). They could charge different amounts for different parks. (Extra fastpasses at MK could be more than extra fastpasses at AK.) They could provide an option that the extra fastpasses could be used for any ride and as many of the ride as you purchase. (For example, you could use all 3 extra on Soarin or TSMM).
 

doctornick

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If they do bring this, I'd like to see:

1. An option to pay for it per day, not have it automatically be the length of the ticket. Unlikely, I realize.
1b. If not paying per day, it would be nice if it were a flat fee and not dependant on the length of ticket, the way that park hopper and water parks & more are. so, that you can add it on for (say) $40 per ticket whether you have 3 day tickets, 5 day tickets or 10 day tickets. It would give greater incentive for longer stays, like the other options do.
2. Have the additional FP+ (3 or whatever) be usable in a different park than the "base" 3 FP+.
3. Allow for doubling up on attractions with the additional FP+ -- being able to use them on the same ride as another FP+
4. No tiers for the extra FP+ -- usable on any ride with FP+ capability.

#3 and 4 to me are the key ones to make them work. If I can buy FP+ that let me go on Soarin' and TT and allow me to ride TSMM multiple times in a day, etc. then I'm in for a reasonable cost.
 

LucyK

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Its people like you who ruin the whole experience for everyone else. Why would you want to pay more for something that was one time free. Makes no sense. Stand up with your wallet and dont spend the money.
I'm sorry if me wanting a good park experience hurt you. I never toured the parks without Fastpass and I won't start now. If I have the money to pay for those extra FP+, you can bet I'll pay for them.

Face it, FP+ is here to stay, they spent one freaking billion dollars on it and not a million complains will make Disney change their minds. This is the way things are now so you either adjust or find another place to vacation to. I'll stand up with my wallet at the line to buy those extra FP+, how's that?

BTW, I'm not the only one who thinks like that, but post like yours is what don't let them come out and say it.
 

Irie

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Its people like you who ruin the whole experience for everyone else. Why would you want to pay more for something that was one time free. Makes no sense. Stand up with your wallet and dont spend the money.
Just because you and I wouldn't pay for it doesn't mean other people can't see the value in it. I wouldn't care if they got rid of it altogether. I'm an early riser and use about 1-2 per day. Someone who likes to sleep in would see the advantages of it.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I think it's very likely that if they keep advance FP reservations and magic bands as resort guest only perks and they only offer same day FP to off property guests that they will definitely offer off property guests the option to buy in to the full system and get magic bands and advance reservations. I have no idea what they would charge, but I could see it happening. Either book a room with us or pay us for the right to have the full experience. Either way Disney bumps up their per guest spending which is one of the biggest goals of the whole program.

I'm a little skeptical that they would offer additional FP reservations beyond 3. We already have tiering in 2 parks because demand is likely to outpace supply. Is anyone going to pay for 3 additional FP reservations to EPCOT if they can't book Soarin or TT?
 

RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
220 minute wait! Yikes! Who does that? You could watch almost all of Gone With the Wind in that time (238 minutes).

People who have no choice. People who don't know any better. People who are on their one and only dream trip to Disney and will ride this ride no matter what! People like my DH who waited 2 hours to take my DD on her 2nd ride of TSMM of the day because she really wanted to go again.
 

Mouse_Trap

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I don't believe anyone has found a patent for the Magic Bands/My Magic+ beyond some patents for the physical design of the band strap. Someone did recently find a patent that Universal filed for a system very similar to it.

I can't see how you can patent a wristband to be honest. Even the concept of having a RFC/NFC tag embedded is far too generic in my opinion.

However, I do feel that far to many patents are being granted for generic ideas. This stifles business and competition.
Especially when you just get China etc who completely ignore such patents and copyright.
 

Mouse_Trap

Well-Known Member
21 day ticket... Sheesh. First world problems.

To be honest tickets over here work a little differently. You can only buy 7, 14 or 21 day unlimited tickets and the price doesn't really alter much. Below are the official Disney prices, as you can see they really do try to tie you in to longer for literally no extra money in order to keep you away from Universal.

7 £278 / $444
14 £285 / $455
21 £305 / $487
 

JimboJones123

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Its people like you who ruin the whole experience for everyone else. Why would you want to pay more for something that was one time free. Makes no sense. Stand up with your wallet and dont spend the money.
It is people line you that....

Dangit, I'll just get another post deleted if I say that.

You don't need to be so rude though.
 

NoChesterHester

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To be honest tickets over here work a little differently. You can only buy 7, 14 or 21 day unlimited tickets and the price doesn't really alter much. Below are the official Disney prices, as you can see they really do try to tie you in to longer for literally no extra money in order to keep you away from Universal.

7 £278 / $444
14 £285 / $455
21 £305 / $487

Wow. I see now why many from the UK choose to come across the pond. The hotel and food still would cost one a small fortune.
 

MonorailLover

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IMO, nothing will come of it because less and less people will use it, and then they'll just open up two lines and have CM's say "have at it guys!" With a big smile...
 

Disneyfamily4

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Original Poster
As a Psychology Major, to me it is looking more and more possible. I think charging for fast passes was Disney's plan all along, however, they needed a plan of action that would ease people's psychy and make people embrace the charges rather then complain about them.

So instead of getting rid of the legacy fast pass system, then going straight to charging for fast passes, Disney gets rid of the legacy and puts in a plan for just 3 passes a day. People then hate that idea of just 3 a day, therefore the idea of paying more to get more passes gets embraced, rather then criticized.
 

GrumpyFan

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What is this hypothetical tier-ing everyone keeps talking about?

I think they're referring to the possibility of guests who pay more or stay at a higher class resort would be able to get more than 3 FastPass+ in a single day.

Disney has hinted at this since the days of the original fastpass, but has yet to implement. There is a lot of speculation that they will do it this time around due the high cost they have paid for implementing the system.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
Before they even announced it, I thought they were going to do this and eventually sell them. I never thought "wristband", though.

I still think they'll sell them to some people.

Uni has an AP that gives you one ride through the EP line a day, after 4 p.m. I wonder if Disney won't sell different APs that have different privileges.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
What is this hypothetical tier-ing everyone keeps talking about?

It's not hypothetical at EPCOT or DHS they have already started tiering the passes. You get 1 reservation from tier 1 and 2 reservations from tier 2. At EPCOT tier 1 is Soarin, TT, Maelstrom, Character Spot and Illuminations. At DHS it's TSMM, RNRC, Fantasmic and Beauty and the Beast. Basically they are limiting you from using all 3 reservations on top attractions at these 2 parks. So far MK and AK have not been tiered.

There has been further speculation that the tiering process could be expanded further based on resort level. For instance if you are staying at a deluxe you might be allowed to book 3 from tier 1 plus an additional 2 from tier 2. A moderate might get 2 from each group while a value would be limited to 1 tier 1 and 2 tier 2s. Off property guests would continue to get no advance reservations, only 3 day of fastpass reservations. The logic is that you reward the guests who spend the most on their room. Another possibility is offering additional FP reservations to anyone for a price similar to Universal's model.
 

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