HalloweenWatch '19 - Star Wars Land Edition!

Mac Tonight

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Full disclosure, and a peek inside my brain:

This entire thread was a lark. A fun, seasonal conversation. And it stems from years ago on this same website after Iger entered into that Billion dollar deal with James Cameron, where I would track the number of kids dressing up as Pandora characters on Halloween and report back to breathless observers here. (Current Tally After Many Halloweens = Zero Pandora Costumes)

So this year I changed it up as I wondered if the new Star Wars Land would impact the costume trends in a neighborhood seven miles east of Disneyland where literally every family has Annual Passes. (It's actually a zoning requirement in Villa Park)

And what we learned is, not only did Star Wars Land not become a costume trend for kids and teens, but the overall number of Star Wars costumes in general has noticeably declined from previous years. And then a bunch of us here, who enjoy each other's company, in the hours leading up to and through Halloween evening all talked about it and laughed and made jokes. Because it's a message board where people do that sort of stuff.

And then at ten o'clock I turned out the porch lights and made a nice martini. 🍸

That's how my brain works, and how this message board often works. Enjoy! :D
I can respect the lark-ness and believe me, I do enjoy fun... I started out pretending to be Bob Chapek for crying out loud...
I guess I just don't think that anyone would have honestly actually thought that Star Wars Land itself would have spawned any costumes.

And to reiterate my original overall point, I do feel like its this boards MO to just nitpick stuff to death sometimes.

Also, in full disclosure, this hasn't been a great month for me, so if I've come across as harsh to anyone for any reason, I apologize.

Carry on!
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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At the stroke of ten o'clock I turned off the porch lights and called it a night. Nothing good happens after 10:00 pm on Halloween night (just ask the idiot doctor down the street who gives out erasers), and I'm almost out of candy anyway. Phew! We made it, gang! 🎃

Also at the stroke of ten o'clock I switched gears, said goodnight to the non-alcoholic Swedish Autumnal Punch, and made myself a nice gin martini to celebrate... something. Halloween! That's it, I'm celebrating Halloween. Find below the official stats from The List, my thoughts on the cultural zeitgeist in a changing world, and what it means for Star Wars Land at Disneyland.

Here it is, the hot-off-the-presses final tally from The List 2019, and proof that I've turned off the porch lights and switched from a Swedish punch to a British martini.

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As you can see the final tally ended up as this:

Chewbacca - 1
Stormtroopers - 4
Kylo Ren - 0
Rey - 0
Vi Moradi* - 0
Ky'le from Tustin - 0
Hondo - 0


I had one Chewbacca early in the night, who was a dad escorting his two young daughters who were some sort of video game thing. I had 4 Stormtroopers, and they came in three sets; two different boys who were older brothers of girls dressed as frilly princess things, and then two teenage boys escorting their dates, and their dates were dressed up as matching German beer maidens. I kid you not. Apparently they only coordinated their costumes with their friends instead of their dates. Hindsight is 20-20. 🧐

Those were the only Star Wars characters I got tonight, and that's a huge change. Earlier in the 2010's I would get lots of family units dressed as full Star Wars characters. And at least a few young ladies as Princess Leia, and boys as Darth Vader, dad as Chewbacca, etc. But no longer. The Star Wars presence was the weakest I've seen in over a decade. And no Poe. No Finn. Also no Fantastic Beasts or any blue aliens from Pandora. Again.

And absolutely no one showed up as anyone remotely related to anyone in Star Wars Land. No Kylo Ren. No Rey. No Vi Moradi* or Honda Accord.

Not even a Ky'le from Tustin, which is very easy to pull off in Tustin adjacent communities.

My coveted Best Costume awards with the See's Candy baskets went to;

Best Boy Costume - An incredibly realistic young Groot from Guardians of the Galaxy
Best Girl Costume - A junior high aged young lady who was a drop-dead-ringer for Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez in a business suit, and instead of saying "trick or treat!" she said in a Kardashian accent "Like, can I have some candy, before, like, the world ends?" I died! Her mom was 10 feet behind and whom I know by seeing around the neighborhood, and when I awarded her daughter the Best Costume award she seemed more excited than her daughter.
Best Family Costume - This was a wild card, but it was a family who had dressed up as the crew from that hilarious CBC comedy Schitt's Creek. Dad was Mr. Rose, mom was Mrs. Rose, daughter was Alexis, and son was Mayor Schitt. Again, I died. The families in my neighborhood really go all out!

I had about 110 trick-or-treaters. I had 60 Reese's and 60 Hershey bars, plus my three Best Costume Awards baskets from See's Candy. I have a dozen candy bars left.

But again, what's interesting is how the Star Wars fad that was so rampant earlier in the 2010's has totally dropped off. I had a lot of Marvel superheros, I had a smattering of classic Disney princesses (Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, that Hawaiian one, etc.). I had a whole bunch of gory monsters. I had some weird video game people that I'm unclear on. I had a surprising number of political figures (AOC, two President Trumps, and a dad being a really creepy Adam Schiff). I had ghouls and ghosts. I had a few zombies. I had some older boys dressed up as military guys. Earlier in the evening I had a lot of little boys dressed as firefighters and policemen, which was so cute as Halloween always coincides with fire season in SoCal. And dozens of girls dressed as various sparkly princesses.

But Star Wars? It wasn't really very popular this year. And absolutely no one dressed as any of the Star Wars Land Batuu characters. It seems that Star Wars fad has passed, or been tapped out, or the new movies just aren't resonating with people. Or all of that combined.

The times seem to be changing.

At least my martini is still the same! I hope you all had a wonderful Halloween!
How many FALCON RAMPS did you get last night????
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Hey I have a personal anecdote that doesn't actually matter that I can share, too! I'll even bold things!

One of my best friends and her boyfriend love Batuu and visit there every off day they have together. They have characters, play the Datapad games (when battery life permits), and have an amazing time interacting with all of the Cast. Recently, my friend bought her boyfriend a lightsaber experience for his birthday, and the look of sheer joy on his face when he got to fulfill a life-long dream made her cry.

But no one dressed up as a Star War for Halloween and visited one specific message board poster's house so it doesn't matter I guess.


Absolutely. Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing. Remember that Disney Parks exist outside the vacuum of internet forums.
But its not just one house. as others reported not a lot of STAR WARS characthers in general. Which is horrible considering the 4 billion dollar purchase Disney is trying to make it's money on and the fact a new movie is coming out in less than 2 months. Hype for the brand should be there but no one gives a crap. Halloween is a sign of that. Also the boyfriend's life long dream was for his girlfriend to buy him a $200 light up phallac plastic tube?? Seems like that would be more her dream.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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I can respect the lark-ness and believe me, I do enjoy fun... I started out pretending to be Bob Chapek for crying out loud...
I guess I just don't think that anyone would have honestly actually thought that Star Wars Land itself would have spawned any costumes.
Disney obviously did considering they sell full costumes you can purchase in their empty billion dollar land they built. BRIGHT SUNS
 

Kram Sacul

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In the Parks
Yes
I'm sorry, but I think we're really grasping at straws here for backhanded reasons to deem SWL a failure. It's been open all of what... 5 months??

What did you expect? Sidewalks flooded with little Hondos? Do they even make and sell a costume?

We get it.

Hey, when you’re a swanky fake insider with a not so hidden agenda you still gotta pay the bills.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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They sell Star Wars costumes, or Star Wars Land costumes?
Well considering Jedi and Sith are extinct in the time period the land takes place on and they sell full JEDI AND SITH OUTFITS in their stores, its more STAR WARS costumes than STAR WARS LAND costumes. A star wars land costume would be the outfits of the cast mem-errr Batuu Citizens wear. There is a difference.
 

TP2000

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I can respect the lark-ness and believe me, I do enjoy fun... I started out pretending to be Bob Chapek for crying out loud...
I guess I just don't think that anyone would have honestly actually thought that Star Wars Land itself would have spawned any costumes.

And to reiterate my original overall point, I do feel like its this boards MO to just nitpick stuff to death sometimes.

Also, in full disclosure, this hasn't been a great month for me, so if I've come across as harsh to anyone for any reason, I apologize.

Carry on!

It's okay. :)

I wasn't honestly expecting any Star Wars Land costumes, even though I could have labeled any crummy teen in a half-hearted ghost outfit as Ky'le From Tustin, which would have thrilled @SSG. But even that one didn't show up last night. The teenagers showing up after 8 o'clock really went all out, and none of them were Ky'le.

And don't worry about coming across as harsh, you certainly didn't. 2019 has been a very odd year for many of us. Don't forget, it wasn't but a few months ago that I was accused of being Al Lutz's ghostwriter for the past 17 years whom Zenia Mucha and George Kalogridis hand picked to hijack MiceAge/MiceChat and help overthrow Michael Eisner and elevate Bob Iger into power.

I was the world's first Internet Influencer! Or not. Sometimes even I can't remember what actually happened in 2002 and how it relates to 2019. ;)
 

Mac Tonight

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Well considering Jedi and Sith are extinct in the time period the land takes place on and they sell full JEDI AND SITH OUTFITS in their stores, its more STAR WARS costumes than STAR WARS LAND costumes. A star wars land costume would be the outfits of the cast mem-errr Batuu Citizens wear. There is a difference.
Exactly. Which is why I asked if anyone honestly thought there would be Star Wars LAND costumes. Which is also what TP was on the lookout for...

But, yeah. warm glowing sky lights to you too :)
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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Exactly. Which is why I asked if anyone honestly thought there would be Star Wars LAND costumes. Which is also what TP was on the lookout for...

But, yeah. warm glowing sky lights to you too :)
No he was on the look out for specific characthers from the land not so much costumes of the land. as others have pointed out, Hondo was first on a cartoon or something before he was in the land so he is a star wars characther and there was a picture posted earlier in the thread of a Hondo costume. And the homeless VI woman is not so much just a random costume from GALAXY'S EDGE but a characther in the land he wanted to see if anyone was inspired to cosplay as for Halloween.
 

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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It's okay. :)

I wasn't honestly expecting any Star Wars Land costumes, even though I could have labeled any crummy teen in a half-hearted ghost outfit as Ky'le From Tustin, which would have thrilled @SSG. But even that one didn't show up last night. The teenagers showing up after 8 o'clock really went all out, and none of them were Ky'le.

And don't worry about coming across as harsh, you certainly didn't. 2019 has been a very odd year for many of us. Don't forget, it wasn't but a few months ago that I was accused of being Al Lutz's ghostwriter for the past 17 years whom Zenia Mucha and George Kalogridis hand picked to hijack MiceAge/MiceChat and help overthrow Michael Eisner and elevate Bob Iger into power.

I was the world's first Internet Influencer! Or not. Sometimes even I can't remember what actually happened in 2002 and how it relates to 2019. ;)
That really did turn into some strange witch hunt. Next I thought there were going to stone you to death because your crops came in faster than theirs which obviously means you are a witch and a Disney spy Goody TP2000
 

TP2000

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That really did turn into some strange witch hunt. Next I thought there were going to stone you to death because your crops came in faster than theirs which obviously means you are a witch and a Disney spy Goody TP2000

There's a story there, trust me. ;)

But I still laugh at that, and how bizarre and emotional some folks got over it. What is the funniest part is that the reality is so mundane, so boring and basic, that it would likely genuinely anger some of those folks from August who truly wanted to believe that Disney executives are engaged in a decades-long campaign to alter opinion of whatever random Internet message board is inhabited by a few dozen to a few hundred Disney theme park fans at a time.

2019 will go down as one of the most surprising and funniest years of all time!

From Operation Stardust in early '19 where we all thought Disneyland would be swamped with crowds come June, to Star Wars Land flopping and the Disney Parks Blog begging people to visit the park AHORA!, to me being accused of being Al Lutz's longtime ghostwriter and the world's first Internet Influencer that overthrew Eisner and placed Iger into his rightful place of God-like status in Burbank, this year has been one of the funniest and most surprising years of the 21st century. So far. 🧐
 
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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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There's a story there, trust me. ;)

But I still laugh at that, and how bizarre and emotional some folks got over it. What is the funniest part is that the reality is so mundane, so boring and basic, that it would likely genuinely anger some of those folks from August who truly wanted to believe that Disney executives are engaged in a decades-long campaign to alter opinion of whatever random Internet message board is inhabited by a few dozen to a few hundred Disney theme park fans at a time.

2019 will go down as one of the most surprising and funniest years of all time!

From Operation Stardust in early '19 where we all thought Disneyland would be swamped with crowds come June, to Star Wars Land flopping and the Disney Parks Blog begging people to visit the park AHORA!, to me being accused of being Al Lutz's longtime ghostwriter and the first Internet Influencer that overthrew Eisner and placed Iger into his rightful place of God-like status in Burbank, this year has been one of the funniest and most surprising years of the 21st century. So far. 🧐
Hopefully 2020 will be just as much fun! AHORA! LOL. To me, I couldn't care less what your real name is or what you do for a living, your personal info is your personal info and no one's business nor should you have to explain yourself. You have always been fair minded, funny, witty, charming, entertaining, truthful and given great inside info and history of the parks. You treat everyone with respect even when opinions differ and have always treated me with respect which I appreciate. You are a class act and that is all that counts at the end of the day.
 

TP2000

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Hopefully 2020 will be just as much fun! AHORA! LOL. To me, I couldn't care less what your real name is or what you do for a living, your personal info is your personal info and no one's business nor should you have to explain yourself. You have always been fair minded, funny, witty, charming, entertaining, truthful and given great inside info and history of the parks. You treat everyone with respect even when opinions differ and have always treated me with respect which I appreciate. You are a class act and that is all that counts at the end of the day.

Thank you. I really appreciate that.
 

VJ

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There's a story there, trust me. ;)

But I still laugh at that, and how bizarre and emotional some folks got over it. What is the funniest part is that the reality is so mundane, so boring and basic, that it would likely genuinely anger some of those folks from August who truly wanted to believe that Disney executives are engaged in a decades-long campaign to alter opinion of whatever random Internet message board is inhabited by a few dozen to a few hundred Disney theme park fans at a time.

2019 will go down as one of the most surprising and funniest years of all time!

From Operation Stardust in early '19 where we all thought Disneyland would be swamped with crowds come June, to Star Wars Land flopping and the Disney Parks Blog begging people to visit the park AHORA!, to me being accused of being Al Lutz's longtime ghostwriter and the first Internet Influencer that overthrew Eisner and placed Iger into his rightful place of God-like status in Burbank, this year has been one of the funniest and most surprising years of the 21st century. So far. 🧐
AHORA! is my favorite thing to come out of this year. It's so fun to say, plus it's funny thinking of the TDA cubicle dwellers/DPB blog-writers-who-also-probably-are-cubicle-dwellers sweatily and hastily writing up a blog post to get people to come to Disneyland right this second right now go go go time is of the essence. It's all a bizarre and surreal experience.
 

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