Rumor Hall of Presidents Replaced by Muppets American History Show???

Phicinfan

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Quite honestly, I believe there was one suggestion in this thread or another that called out a way to save this and have it be less political...

Take importance of the current President out of the equation, and base the attraction on key Presidents that effected major issues - Lincoln as an example. You show the current President and acknowledge them, but focus more on key decisions made by key Presidents.

That way you just focus on the historical importance.
 

JohnD

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Quite honestly, I believe there was one suggestion in this thread or another that called out a way to save this and have it be less political...

Take importance of the current President out of the equation, and base the attraction on key Presidents that effected major issues - Lincoln as an example. You show the current President and acknowledge them, but focus more on key decisions made by key Presidents.

That way you just focus on the historical importance.
I realize you mean well but even that will generate consternation. Who determines which are the "key Presidents"? No matter who is included, there will be complaints about who was excluded. And there will be differences of opinion on what are the "key decisions."
 

Tha Realest

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Quite honestly, I believe there was one suggestion in this thread or another that called out a way to save this and have it be less political...

Take importance of the current President out of the equation, and base the attraction on key Presidents that effected major issues - Lincoln as an example. You show the current President and acknowledge them, but focus more on key decisions made by key Presidents.

That way you just focus on the historical importance.
This is a very reasonable position and compromise.

Of course, the problem is that certain elements in the company seem to view many - if not most - of the HOP occupants as deserving to be “cancelled,” negating their accomplishments.
 

ednamodedarling

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Would you be saying this if a different person won last night?
It's more that on one hand you would have had little girls seeing a female animatronic in the attraction for the first time. Inspiring a new generation. With the person who won ... it seems that this could become wildly controversial under the eyes of a company who re-themed SPLASH when no one was calling for it to go away in the first place.

But if they re-theme HOP, then they avoid the scandal of it all.

Seems like an easy win. Muppet Vision's days are numbered. The outcry over it's likely end was tremendous. HOP is sitting there with a new controversial headliner on the horizon ... all the while they need to find a new home for The Muppets.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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Suddenly hoping for MUPPET VISION to head to Disney+ & HOP announced to close in January. Transforming into Great Moments in History with the Muppets.

This is the best possible outcome IMO. I truly think this could be why the Monsters announcement was held.
Semi related but the original Muppet Vision 3D should be on Main Street or something, it needs to be preserved in some form
 

DreamfinderGuy

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Suddenly hoping for MUPPET VISION to head to Disney+ & HOP announced to close in January. Transforming into Great Moments in History with the Muppets.

This is the best possible outcome IMO. I truly think this could be why the Monsters announcement was held.
Not to pick on you specifically but I think the "They should put MuppetVision on Disney+" argument is very dumb. MuppetVision isn't like Captain EO where you're just watching a film that's being presented in a theme park, you're going into an attraction which just so happens to have a film as its main element. MuppetVision is made to be presented in the MuppetVision theatre with several animatronics, a live performer, and multiple surrounding effects.

Putting the film on Disney+ would neither be preserving the attraction or doing it justice.
 

BagOfGroceries

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Not to pick on you specifically but I think the "They should put MuppetVision on Disney+" argument is very dumb. MuppetVision isn't like Captain EO where you're just watching a film that's being presented in a theme park, you're going into an attraction which just so happens to have a film as its main element. MuppetVision is made to be presented in the MuppetVision theatre with several animatronics, a live performer, and multiple surrounding effects.

Putting the film on Disney+ would neither be preserving the attraction or doing it justice.
At this point, I have more important things to care about than a great Theme Park Attraction. Like if there even will be a theme park in a few years.
 

ednamodedarling

Well-Known Member
Not to pick on you specifically but I think the "They should put MuppetVision on Disney+" argument is very dumb. MuppetVision isn't like Captain EO where you're just watching a film that's being presented in a theme park, you're going into an attraction which just so happens to have a film as its main element. MuppetVision is made to be presented in the MuppetVision theatre with several animatronics, a live performer, and multiple surrounding effects.

Putting the film on Disney+ would neither be preserving the attraction or doing it justice.
The thing you said about film being it's main element ... is the sole reason why the attraction is near impossible to update & IMO is likely why it has a target on it's back. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one.

They can digitally enhance visual, audio, sound ... but if they were to ever try and re-work the film portion and lose Jim Henson's work, as opposed to just letting it ride out it's time as is. I think that would be the wrong call.
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
The thing you said about film being it's main element ... is the sole reason why the attraction is near impossible to update & IMO is likely why it has a target on it's back. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place on this one.
I don't think it really needs updated though? It definitely wasn't designed around being updated. Nothing about the presentation necessarily feels dated, and Disney certainly maintains older attractions. Despite all that it has been updated even, the Waldo wall projections are fairly new. That's about like Disney going back and adding new effects to old dark rides.
 

Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
What if they turned the Hall of Presidents into a clone of Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln? Would everyone be okay with that?
He can read through the quarterly spreadsheet for 10 minutes before sending us to our HM LL.
You mean "that nondescript ride somewhere that maybe is [themed like] a haunted house or whatever"?
 

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