Hall of Blame

Old Mouseketeer

Old Mouseketeer

Well-Known Member
TROR said:
There's a lot there @Old Mouseketeer but I don't see a specific mention of hating Mission Breakout so idk if we can accept you into the club
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Funny you should mention it. We're getting into a double negative here. I love ToT at WDW. I love Twilight Zone, I love the original ride system. I love all the references to Twilight Zone. I just don't see DCA ToT as the hill I want to die on defending. It's a watered down ToT wannabe. If you did this MB overlay to WDW ToT, I would (rightfully) call it an outrage that threatens human civilization. In DCA generally, and ToT specifically, not so much. Now if you tell me you want to do a Frozen overlay of Soarin', then we can talk. But to make MB the sine quo non of theme park desecration, not so much. YMMV.

For chrisake, man, they disabled the freakin' Jolly Trolley. They put a left turn in the DLRR AND the approach to The Hub on the Main St. Horse Drawn Car. They renamed Aunt Jemima's to Riverbelle Terrace. They didn't just THINK of Superstar Limo--they freakin' BUILT it! Oh, the humanity!

Honestly, the most outrage I can muster for MB is mild irritation. And you seriously need to work on your priorities. They're tearing down Earl of Sandwich, man. Where's your hate when it's needed?
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Old Mouseketeer said:
Funny you should mention it. We're getting into a double negative here. I love ToT at WDW. I love Twilight Zone, I love the original ride system. I love all the references to Twilight Zone. I just don't see DCA ToT as the hill I want to die on defending. It's a watered down ToT wannabe. If you did this MB overlay to WDW ToT, I would (rightfully) call it an outrage that threatens human civilization. In DCA generally, and ToT specifically, not so much. Now if you tell me you want to do a Frozen overlay of Soarin', then we can talk. But to make MB the sine quo non of theme park desecration, not so much. YMMV.

For chrisake, man, they disabled the freakin' Jolly Trolley. They put a left turn in the DLRR AND the approach to The Hub on the Main St. Horse Drawn Car. They renamed Aunt Jemima's to Riverbelle Terrace. They didn't just THINK of Superstar Limo--they freakin' BUILT it! Oh, the humanity!

Honestly, the most outrage I can muster for MB is mild irritation. And you seriously need to work on your priorities. They're tearing down Earl of Sandwich, man. Where's your hate when it's needed?
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Don't forget about the railing on the Castle drawbridge making it completely impossible to open and close.
 
Stevek

Stevek

Well-Known Member
Hattieboxghost110 said:
Welcome! Many peeps on here have been confused as to what the Hall of Blame (HOB) stands for & who belongs to the HOB.

I decided to create this thread to educate inquiring minds.


THE MEMBERS

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lazyboy97o

In many ways, the heart, soul, & conscience of the HOB. He was HOB before the HOB even existed. A legend in his own right.

(@lazyboy97o )



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raven24

The most controversial member who isn't afraid to confront you & tell you how much of an idiot you are when you're wrong.

(@raven24 )


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curious constance

The quirkiest one in the bunch who lets her emotions rule her with an iron fist. If you're on her good side she will treat you like royalty. If not, watch out!

(@Curious Constance)

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george lucas on a bench

The non-conformist who marches to the beat of his own drum & is so anti-establishment that he refuses to acknowledge his membership status to the HOB.

(@George Lucas on a Bench)



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TROR

The cocky, young hotshot who shoots first & asks questions later. He isn't afraid to make enemies & be called a troll for his oppositional viewpoints.



So what the hell is the HOB all about? (Courtesy of mickEblu)

Well the HOB are traditionalists to a fault. Fueled by love of quality, most everything New is bad and most everything Old is good. If Walt / WED worked on it then it’s safe to like. If Rolly Crump sat on it, it’s Gold. If Bob Gurr farted on it, it’s Platinum.

Pixar, Marvel and Star Wars are big No No’s. Especially in Walt’s original park. Even new Disney IP is a No No unless it’s something that didn’t get a lot of shine and failed miserably at the box office. Disney Live action remake tie ins are not also not welcome at the park.

Last but not least. Complain, complain, complain until your blue in the face. This is the mantra. Blame current management for everything but find a way not to blame WDI because they're really just doing what they re told. The next step and this is like the rebirth or reincarnation of an HOB member- is to go find a time machine and go back in time to a place before the parks were ruined.


Chairman of the Board-Hattieboxghost110
Vice Chairman of the Board-mickEblu

*Unfortunately, the HOB is a very exclusive club and membership is rare. For example, even though I'm the Chariman, I had to disqualify myself as a potential member because I didn't quite make the cut. (Though we always have our eyes open for potential members)

*For Non-HOB members, this is a great place to check out when there is new DL projects. The members will let us know if they approve or disapprove of the projects, showing us whether we should be excited, angry, or distraught.
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Go ahead and add just about every person on the Vintage Disneyland FB page to this list. They are literally the worst...like Captain EO is still relevant and cutting edge worst.
 
Model3 McQueen

Model3 McQueen

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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Old Mouseketeer said:
Funny you should mention it. We're getting into a double negative here. I love ToT at WDW. I love Twilight Zone, I love the original ride system. I love all the references to Twilight Zone. I just don't see DCA ToT as the hill I want to die on defending. It's a watered down ToT wannabe. If you did this MB overlay to WDW ToT, I would (rightfully) call it an outrage that threatens human civilization. In DCA generally, and ToT specifically, not so much. Now if you tell me you want to do a Frozen overlay of Soarin', then we can talk. But to make MB the sine quo non of theme park desecration, not so much. YMMV.

For chrisake, man, they disabled the freakin' Jolly Trolley. They put a left turn in the DLRR AND the approach to The Hub on the Main St. Horse Drawn Car. They renamed Aunt Jemima's to Riverbelle Terrace. They didn't just THINK of Superstar Limo--they freakin' BUILT it! Oh, the humanity!

Honestly, the most outrage I can muster for MB is mild irritation. And you seriously need to work on your priorities. They're tearing down Earl of Sandwich, man. Where's your hate when it's needed?
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I can't forgive $hapek for this cheap change for advertisement. ToT at DCA may not have been close to the level of DHS's, but the faster pace was unique enough to make it stand on its own.

My Samsung 4K tv in the living room looks better then the scenes from Mission Breakout. And I can recreate the generator room with a few pieces of plastic and lots of flashing lights. Adding some more banging sounds and sequential lights in the boiler room doesn't count as a quality reskin either.

The only compliment I can legitimately pay to Mission Breakout, is that there's no salesperson trying to sell me something in the main lobby. "Check out this new TV! It's 4k and 120 inches wide! BUY IT!"

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SuddenStorm

SuddenStorm

Well-Known Member
Old Mouseketeer said:
Meh. I was born on the day the MM Club debuted on TV. I went to the Tiki Room when it was an E ticket plus 10 cents. I saw Walt Disney in a parade driving one of his electric cars with the steering bar. I wanted to live in the Monsanto House of the Future. I saw Wally Boag in the Golden/Diamond Horseshoes dozens of times. Dave Smith and David Mumford stayed at my apartment (in two different countries in David's case, but I did not sleep with David for inside info, unlike a certain "reporter" on a site which must not be named). I have a pirate named after me. I toured WED and saw the concept for what would be Buzz, intended for upstairs of the CoP building long before Buzz ever existed. I met Paul Pressler for the first time standing at the urinal in the executive level men's room at Gap Inc. headquarters. I've been through all four TL basements at DL. I saw Elizabeth Taylor leaving Club 33. And speaking of Club 33, I had lunch there for the first time with David Mumford and Greg Brown as guests of Donn Tatum in 1974!

I hated the Babes In Toyland set in the DL Opera House (the MM Club HQ for the early '60s reruns) because there was a sign in the doorway to the emergency exit in the South wall that said "this way to the Forest of No Return" and you couldn't actually go there! I hated on DL for taking away the Monsanto House of the Future and the Flying Saucers (1965 anyone?). I hated how long Tomorrowland was closed--this was THE FUTURE I WAS GOING TO LIVE IN. I hated WDW HM for not having an elevator in the expanding room. I hated WDW for not selecting Honey Rex as the 1974 ambassador (hey, she dated the King of freaking Jordan--what more do you want!). I hated them for building Pirates light at WDW (and I snuck in and walked all through the show building during testing). I hated Tokyo DL for not having an original castle and HM and a train that ran around the whole park (although under Japanese railroad regulations, the latter was virtually impossible). I hated Paris for changing Snow White's castle to yet another Sleeping Beauty's castle (look at the opening animation for the Wonderful World of Disney when they zoomed in on the four resort locations before Paris opened. I hated Hong Kong DL for having DL's castle (small and duplicated) and building half a park. I hated Shanghai's ungly castle on steroids. I hated DCA for even existing. I hated Superstar Limo because STUPID! I hated Light Tragic because BITE ME! I hated new Electrical Parade because small cast, ugly costumes, silly gold ribbon running through floats, and diluted musical score. I hate no Monte Cristo at Blue Bayou. I hate no central planter in the dining room of River Belle. I hate covering up the naked man in the bas relief over the far right door to Stage Door Cafe. I hate the humungous windows on the Club 33 bumpout over the door to Crystal d'Oreans (I don't really care about the off center window over Cafe Orleans). I hate closing the secret exit to Fort Wilderness. I hate losing the specialized security uniforms (US Marshall in Frontierland and Keystone Kop on Main St.). I hate no more (fake) lederhosen at Matterhorn. I hate the closing announcement saying "we hope you have enjoyed your stay in the Magic Kingdom" instead of the traditional "Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom". I hate no more Fantasia ice cream AND I DON'T EVEN *LIKE* FANTASIA ICE CREAM! I hate no more ticket books. I hate being able to go between lands without going through the hub. I hate the Rocket Jets being moved off the platform and no more svelte young women in form-fitting orange jumpsuits. I hate no more live spiel "on behalf of the one million men and women of the Bell System". I hate beyond all human comprehension the abomination that is the Captain Eo theater at DL (no matter what they call it these days). I hate no more glassblower on DL Main St. I hate no more Sara Lee bakery on WDW Main St. (my going away cake at WDW in 1975 was a Sara Lee orange cake decorated there). I hate no more caricature artist in TL (you know, the one drawing in ink on a plastic cel on an overhead projector). I hate no more speakerphone booths in Tomorrowland. I hate no more glock girls with Santa (I was devastated when I found out their luxuriant locks were wigs). I hate no more John, Michael, and Wendy jumping on trampolines on the Peter Pan float in Fantasy on Parade (and they were real kids). I hate no more Blue Fairy, Dumbo circus unit and Small World unit in Electrical Parade. I hate no more sleeping scene in the DL Sleeping Beauty Castle dioramas where you could "snore" into the hidden microphone and hear it echo. I hate the new Little Mermaid scene at the end of Storybookland at DL because it used to be a nondescript curtain and the then hostess would point out that it was "never, never land because we never, never go there".

And I'm just getting started!

So all you haters-come-lately...stand in line. I was hating on Disney for stupidity before you were even born. So get off my lawn!!!

P.S. All of the above is 100% true.
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Curious Constance said:
To be fair, the mere existence of a Disneyland Discussion forum is jumping the shark.

And I'm glad that there are now dedicated threads which are easily avoidable if it's not your thing.
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Wait, who would want to avoid these threads? What else are we going to talk about during the lull of project?

@mickEblu, bruh, we may need a subcategory within the HOB just for @Curious Constance.
 

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