Guide to DLR for WDW Veterans!

mickEblu

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Thank you both!

My next thought for you or anyone, itinerary. Trying to think of days that could be quieter in parks. This is a tentative idea for early June.

Saturday: Travel day / check into a hotel near USH.

Sunday: General Hollywood / LA day. Explore. Santa Monica maybe, etc.

Monday: USH

Tuesday: travel to / check-in hotel near Disneyland. Downtown Disney exploration etc.

Wednesday - Saturday: Disneyland / DCA days. Rope dropping. Full out 4 park days.

Sunday: Check out and travel home.

Does this seem like a silly plan? Are there better days of the week for the parks? Is early June a fools errand?

Yes early June would be terrible this year. Definitely avoid late May to early June as many folks will be trying to use their unused days from their So Cal 3 day passes that will expire 6/2. I would avoid Grad Nights like the plague if you can. Go in early to Mid May if possible.

I like avoiding USH on the weekend and going on a weekday. USH has more typical crowd patterns with the park being much busier on weekends than weekdays. For DL since you’re going for 4 days Thurs to Sun or Wed to Sat is probably your best bet.
 

Disney Analyst

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Yes early June would be terrible this year. Definitely avoid late May to early June as many folks will be trying to use their unused days from their So Cal 3 day passes that will expire 6/2. I would avoid Grad Nights like the plague if you can. Go in early to Mid May if possible.

I like avoiding USH on the weekend and going on a weekday. USH has more typical crowd patterns with the park being much busier on weekends than weekdays. For DL since you’re going for 4 days Thurs to Sun or Wed to Sat is probably your best bet.

My days may work then, I was thinking June 3rd for USH, and then later that week for Disneyland. So just after those passes expire.

hmm.
 

mickEblu

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My days may work then, I was thinking June 3rd for USH, and then later that week for Disneyland. So just after those passes expire.

hmm.

But then you still have grad nights to deal with. I actually just checked and looks like they start much earlier this year from 5/10- 6/14. For my money I’m going first week of May. If not then after 6/14.
 

Disney Analyst

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But then you still have grad nights to deal with. I actually just checked and looks like they start much earlier this year from 5/10- 6/14. For my money I’m going first week of May. If not then after 6/14.

Ugh haha! There is always something. I’m trying to avoid spring break, long weekends, now grad nights 😂 didn’t even think of those.

Sadly early May is out as my coworker already snatched dates up to May 17th.
 

mickEblu

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Ugh haha! There is always something. I’m trying to avoid spring break, long weekends, now grad nights 😂 didn’t even think of those.

Sadly early May is out as my coworker already snatched dates up to May 17th.

Ya it’s tough haha. 6/14 isn’t too bad tho. It’s usually not too hot yet and you avoid grad nights. You also have two tiers of pass holders that are blacked out. The only negative I can think of is the June Gloom but the fog usually dissipates by the early to mid afternoon. I’d say mid June is a solid option.
 

PiratesMansion

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Seconded. I've used UT for most of my DL tickets and they're solid. They also offer a year long almost-full-refund policy on tickets, which makes them particularly attractive vs. other sellers.
 

Disney Analyst

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I don't know if you will need a rental car but I have used Undercover Tourist's rental car discount a few times and it can be a good deal.

@Disney Analyst, if you do go for a rental car, know that some (many?) hotels in the area charge for parking.


I don't think we will go the rental route. Us Canadian's don't really fancy the idea of trying to drive in LA! Haha.

Haven't fully decided how we will get from Airport to Universal Hotel area, and from Universal to Disneyland.
 

PiratesMansion

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I don't think we will go the rental route. Us Canadian's don't really fancy the idea of trying to drive in LA! Haha.

Haven't fully decided how we will get from Airport to Universal Hotel area, and from Universal to Disneyland.
Which airport are you flying into? LAX? John Wayne/Orange County? Other?

You definitely won't need a car for your DLR days, but if you're doing anything further away than Knott's, having a car is a big, big help. I'm not sure where you're from precisely (Vancouver? Or I could just be making that up), but the difficulty of driving in LA is vastly overhyped. If you've driven in any big city, you'll be fine. The traffic is bad, but the drivers are no worse than any other urban area-better, in fact, than other cities I've been through (Philadelphia, Atlanta, Orlando) by orders of magnitude. Try not to drive during rush hour, use Waze to find the best route, and group your activities strategically to avoid unnecessary detours, and it's relatively manageable.

I take it you're going to stay out by Universal for at least a night as well?

Now, from a public transit standpoint, it is worth noting that Universal actually is on the LA Metro with its own dedicated station. Once you exit the station, you'll walk a block or two to board an official Universal tram that will take you the rest of the way to the park entrance. The coverage of the Metro is a bit limited, but if you're committed to being carless, you could use that to get around to some of the other sites in the area if you want to do things other than just Universal, and then when you go to/return to Orange County and Disney, take the Metro to Norwalk, which is close-ish to Orange County and Disney, and then rideshare the rest of the way to Anaheim.
 

Disney Analyst

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Which airport are you flying into? LAX? John Wayne/Orange County? Other?

You definitely won't need a car for your DLR days, but if you're doing anything further away than Knott's, having a car is a big, big help. I'm not sure where you're from precisely (Vancouver? Or I could just be making that up), but the difficulty of driving in LA is vastly overhyped. If you've driven in any big city, you'll be fine. The traffic is bad, but the drivers are no worse than any other urban area-better, in fact, than other cities I've been through (Philadelphia, Atlanta, Orlando) by orders of magnitude. Try not to drive during rush hour, use Waze to find the best route, and group your activities strategically to avoid unnecessary detours, and it's relatively manageable.

I take it you're going to stay out by Universal for at least a night as well?

Now, from a public transit standpoint, it is worth noting that Universal actually is on the LA Metro with its own dedicated station. Once you exit the station, you'll walk a block or two to board an official Universal tram that will take you the rest of the way to the park entrance. The coverage of the Metro is a bit limited, but if you're committed to being carless, you could use that to get around to some of the other sites in the area if you want to do things other than just Universal, and then when you go to/return to Orange County and Disney, take the Metro to Norwalk, which is close-ish to Orange County and Disney, and then rideshare the rest of the way to Anaheim.

Right now my thought is to fly into LAX, two nights at hotel near Universal, five nights out at Disneyland. Fly out of SNA (yes, from Vancouver).
 

Disney Analyst

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Which airport are you flying into? LAX? John Wayne/Orange County? Other?

You definitely won't need a car for your DLR days, but if you're doing anything further away than Knott's, having a car is a big, big help. I'm not sure where you're from precisely (Vancouver? Or I could just be making that up), but the difficulty of driving in LA is vastly overhyped. If you've driven in any big city, you'll be fine. The traffic is bad, but the drivers are no worse than any other urban area-better, in fact, than other cities I've been through (Philadelphia, Atlanta, Orlando) by orders of magnitude. Try not to drive during rush hour, use Waze to find the best route, and group your activities strategically to avoid unnecessary detours, and it's relatively manageable.

I take it you're going to stay out by Universal for at least a night as well?

Now, from a public transit standpoint, it is worth noting that Universal actually is on the LA Metro with its own dedicated station. Once you exit the station, you'll walk a block or two to board an official Universal tram that will take you the rest of the way to the park entrance. The coverage of the Metro is a bit limited, but if you're committed to being carless, you could use that to get around to some of the other sites in the area if you want to do things other than just Universal, and then when you go to/return to Orange County and Disney, take the Metro to Norwalk, which is close-ish to Orange County and Disney, and then rideshare the rest of the way to Anaheim.

also thank you for all that! We might just swing for an Uber or something. Unsure. The flyaway bus to Union Station may also work, then take the metro.
 

PiratesMansion

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also thank you for all that! We might just swing for an Uber or something. Unsure. The flyaway bus to Union Station may also work, then take the metro.
Just make sure you are prepared for the fact that there is no such thing as a quick or easy way to get out of LAX. Everything will take longer than it should and it can be quite a chaotic, stressful place to deal with.

Maybe see if there are any flights into Bob Hope Airport (Burbank) that might work out better for you? It appears to be closer to Universal than LAX and will definitely be less stressful to deal with.

There's also Long Beach and Ontario (ha) as alternatives to get to the area, though if you're aiming for Universal first, those probably aren't of much help in terms of location. Ontario in particular is a bit out in the boonies, and neither in LA nor Orange County. Long Beach might work as a way to get back home from Disneyland, however, if SNA doesn't work out.

If you fly into LAX, and plan on doing any activities beyond getting to Universal on arrival day, make sure you allow plenty of buffer room to get from point A to point B.
 

Disney Analyst

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Now probably the more important question - what’s everyone’s rope drop strategy / strategies for both parks? Especially with how much things have changed with early entry, Genie+ etc.

Right now I’m thinking 4 day park hoppers.

Wednesday - Disneyland starting park
Thursday (Pride Nite, won’t get tickets) - DCA starting park
Friday - Disneyland starting park
Saturday - Disneyland starting park

I figure the Thursday DCA will get busy when Disneyland closes at 8pm?
 

PiratesMansion

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Now probably the more important question - what’s everyone’s rope drop strategy / strategies for both parks? Especially with how much things have changed with early entry, Genie+ etc.

Right now I’m thinking 4 day park hoppers.

Wednesday - Disneyland starting park
Thursday (Pride Nite, won’t get tickets) - DCA starting park
Friday - Disneyland starting park
Saturday - Disneyland starting park

I figure the Thursday DCA will get busy when Disneyland closes at 8pm?
Your hunch is probably correct for Thursday, but one thing that's worth noting is that at some point, Early Entry will move from being at both parks every day to once again being limited to only one park per day. The EE pool is much smaller than it used to be, now that there are no day guests roped in at all, to the point that for most attractions, it probably doesn't make a significant difference. But if you're going to try to rope drop something like PPF or the other big ticket items, it makes a small but noticeable dent at the start of the day.

DCA: My big takeaway from my last visit is this: don't bother trying to rope drop RSR. Everyone else has the same idea, especially since it's an ILL, and if you're not perfectly positioned for every step of the process, you're locking yourself into a very long wait, especially if (as happened to me) the ride isn't quite ready to go at rope drop. My mother and I ended up ditching the standby and getting on pretty immediately via single rider instead.

Otherwise, I don't know that there's a strictly right/wrong way to rope drop DCA if you're using basic touring instincts, because nothing else at DCA is a draw that's remotely in conversation with Racers at the start of the day. Probably the closest thing to an objective "best" way to do things is to start with Webslingers, then Guardians, then MI, then Soarin, and then head to the back and do Mickey's Death Wheel/Pixar Pal Around if desired, followed by TSMM and TCFKACA before the crowds arrive. But since basically everything's on Genie anyway, you can sort of discard that and do things in any order you please if a different strategy would be preferable.

DL: I always start with Fantasyland because it's easy to do a bunch of rides really quickly and there's little Genie+ to be found. It's particularly advantageous if you're able to knock out PPF immediately, but you have to be ready and quick at rope drop to make PPF worth it, because people have figured out that PPF is the best ride in FL to hit first. From there, do Alice, Toad, Snow White, Pinocchio, Storybook, and things of that nature for your first hour. From there, you can try to catch Space or the subs on standby before the line builds in the way they will later (though this isn't what I'd personally do most of the time: the Subs take a lot of valuable time and might be better ridden in the evening, when wait times drop off. Space is really only worth considering here if you think you might want to ride it more than once a day), OR you can try to hit Car Toon Spin and Runaway Railway before the public remembers that Toontown exists (while TT now opens with the park, it seems like the public still doesn't really think about it until after an hour or two), OR head to the west side of the park, which mostly takes a while to fill up with people.

I wouldn't start with Indy (an obvious draw close to the entrance, takes awhile to get out to the show building and back, and one prone to breakdowns) or Rise (another popular rope drop destination, also prone to breakdowns and one that takes quite a long time to finish-time best not wasted in the first few hours of the day IMO, and close to little else apart from Smuggler's).

Booking things with Genie/ILL/whatever:
Go to the tip board in the app and toggle it so that it only shows Genie rides. That's the most direct way to make bookings.

Note that with Genie+/LL/ILL, it will not prevent overlapping plans. So you will need to make sure that, say, if you buy an ILL it doesn't overlap with a regular G+ time or a restarant reservation, or that if you book two regular Genie+'s during the same time frame that it's doable. If all else fails, and you don't like or need to change your G+ time, there is a modify button, which I found to be a huge help. I'm not sure if you can modify ILL times on the app or not.

LL order: Not much to say on the DCA front here, so this will be entirely DL focused. Indy and Space are the two that go first. Matterhorn and Runaway Railway (and remember that TT-as well as much of FL, though notably Matterhorn remains open-is closed from ~8:15-10:15 every night for fireworks, so there's two fewer hours to book MMRR vs everything else that's a big ticket item on Genie) are the next tier, followed by everything else. Not sure how Pirates on Genie will impact things. There seemed very little interest comparatively in IASW, ST, BLAB Lightning Lanes during my visits this year (side note: one of the biggest changes I've noticed compared to my visits 10 years ago or so is that Star Tours has had a noticeable drop off in popularity post-GE, though the ride may be reinvigorated somewhat with the new scenes coming), so you can count on those being available late into the day. Remember that you can only do each attraction once-it'll look like you can book things again, but when you actually try to do so, it'll block you.

Exception: If you book a ride that breaks down during your window, that LL will turn into a Multi Experience Pass, and you can then book that attraction again.

Individual Lightning Lanes: I wouldn't bother with doing this for RSR unless you are dead set on riding together once, in which case it is certainly a lot easier than waiting in standby. But truly, I was stunned by just how many people were willing to buy ILL for Racers.

Rise to me makes more sense as an ILL purchase, and I've done it a few times. If you'd rather not do ILL, I'd wait until closer to the end of the day for a shorter wait. Note, however, that Rise closes at 10 PM every night.
 
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