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Guest attacks Disney bus driver
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Oh okay, thanks. I guess I wanted to believe something that sounded too good to be true.
TomHendricks
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Welcome to the Disney board, full of false hopes and dreams.
captainkidd
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For the record, yes it is. It's just not enforced.
No it is not. No where in the official literature does it state that that transportation is "exclusive" for resort guests. It states that it is "available". The only transportation that is exclusive to resort guests is DME.
captainkidd
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Complimentary transportation throughout Walt Disney World Resort—including transportation to and from Disney Theme Parks and Disney Water Parks—is available to Guests of select Walt Disney World Resort hotels.
Exactly. It's available to WDW Resort Guests. I think I'm confused. I'm referring to non-Disney Resort guests using the buses. Sounds like you're referring to Resort guests using buses from any resort.
Exactly. It's available to WDW Resort Guests. I think I'm confused. I'm referring to non-Disney Resort guests using the buses. Sounds like you're referring to Resort guests using buses from any resort.
Disney transportation is available to anyone, resort guest or not. It is not exclusive only to resort guests. Saying that it is "available" to resort guests might imply but does not directly state that it is exclusive to resort guests.
captainkidd
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I'll have to find the guidebook (in fact, I think it was the Official Guidebook) that I read it in this weekend, but I definitely read that bus transportation is for Disney Resort Guests and you may be asked to show your resort ID. Now, I'd be shocked if ANY of us has ever had that happened to them, but technically, Disney does have the right to refuse bus service to non-resort guests.
If it is not an official guide book then what is printed in there is irrelevant. If you can find anything on Disney's official site that states that non resort guests are forbidden to ride Disney transportation then you would be right but I have looked and looked then looked some more for just that and have never found it.
Personally I think Disney makes it deliberately ambiguous in the hope of discouraging non resort guests form using it but as of present day they will not refuse a non resort guest from riding Disney transportation. Considering the size of Disney's legal staff and the number of things they due to avoid legal confrontation I can not see them letting this get through if they intended the transportation system to be exclusive to resort guests only.
captainkidd
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Like I said, I'm pretty sure it was the Official Guide. I'll check when I get home.
Of course Disney isn't going to come out and say "it forbids non resort guests to use the buses". They do list one of the benefits of being a resort guest getting free transportation. I don't see why they'd list that as a benefit if it was true to off-site guests too.
Tom
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That's printed in Birnbaum's guide, which is printed and published by Disney - but it still doesn't make it an officially binding rule.
The Unofficial Guide says the same thing. I'm not sure where either of them got the idea that a bus driver would ever check for your Resort ID. I've never read that on anything "official" from Disney in my life.
mrtoad
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I have not read all the back and forth on this so if mentioned already I apologize.
Back when it was just the Magic Kingdom I remember as a kid staying at the Polynesian and having to show my resort ID to get on the monorail. Not sure they would really stop you or not but you did need to show it back then. I think when they expanded (at least when they expanded adding the Studios) that they stopped requiring you to be a resort guest to ride the transportation.
I would think the reasons being are:
1) if you are going to let guests park hop it can be very time consuming to have them go back to the parking lot, get in the car drive to the other parking lot, take a tram etc. Too inconvenient, and even if people are not staying on property they are paying customers and they would want to keep them happy.
2) it would take too long for bus drivers to check each person for resort id, it takes too long. When it was just the monorail it was easier, they had somebody stationed on the platform anyway so they could just check IDs. With the buses there are just too many to be able to do that logistically. It would really slow it down and as the reason for this thread to begin with, making it slower is not going to help anybody...
To help entice people to stay at Disney resorts. Like I said you could imply that it is exclusive but it does not mean that it is.
From what I have been told this is correct. Making the transportation system resort guest exclusive simply is not practical or really needed for that matter. It is not like droves of off property guests are clogging up the transportation system. I would wager that well over 95% of the people on Disney buses are resort guests.
mrtoad
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I would agree. I think most people are not going to park hop if they are staying off property even with the bus option. Either way it is very time consuming to do that. They would either need to get their car mid day to hop or go back and get end of day if using buses to hop. And for the ones that are using the buses they are only feeding money back into Disney anyway but paying to hop or going to a resort to eat a meal.
captainkidd
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Just read in the Official Guide:
It states you may be asked to present Resort ID, Annual Pass, or a Magic Your Way Multi Day Ticket to use the buses. Obviously, non-resort guests can have a Multi Day ticket, so that's not where I read it.
Maybe I misread wrong.
It states you may be asked to present Resort ID, Annual Pass, or a Magic Your Way Multi Day Ticket to use the buses. Obviously, non-resort guests can have a Multi Day ticket, so that's not where I read it.
Maybe I misread wrong.
This. Simply because they don't use the term "restricted" doesn't mean anyone can use the busses.
This is what it says for DME:
Complimentary airport transportation service, known as Disney's Magical Express Transportation, is free roundtrip airport transportation and baggage delivery for Guests of select Walt Disney World Resort hotels.
This is what it says for Disney Transportation:
Complimentary transportation throughout Walt Disney World Resort—including transportation to and from Disney Theme Parks and Disney Water Parks—is available to Guests of select Walt Disney World Resort hotels.
By Master Yoda's reasoning, DME should be available to non-resort guests as well. The reason they don't use the term "restricted" is that it has a negative connotation, and guests with park hoppers are also allowed to use the busses. The reasoning that Disney likes guests to visit resorts for possible future stays is revisionism. In truth, a large majority of guests only visit WDW once. They don't enforce the transportation policy because it might stop non-resort guests from dining at a resort restaurant...AND they encourage non-resort guests to take a resort bus to transfer from the parks to downtown Disney, where they will spend even more money. But it doesn;t change the fact that TECHNICALLY, only hotel guests are supposed to be using the resort busses.
Random Vids Inc
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Really?! Just maintain people!? You're at Disney World!
stuart
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The transportation system is to move guests around the Walt Disney World Resort. This is available to both Disney resort and non-resort guests. The monorail, boats and buses are part of Disney Transportation - therefore, how could non-Resort guests get from TTC to MK for example? At one point they did state that you may be asked to produce a valid park ticket for use of the transport system, but this hasnt been on the Disney website or in the transportation guide as policy for some time now. To be honest I think this was more an effort to deter people from parking at a resort and then using the transportation system to avoid parking charges.
If it was 'technically' only available to Disney Resort guests - when you make dining reservations, as you hint at - and they ask where you are staying - why do they then instruct you to use Disney Transportation as opposed to a taxi?
The wording in Walt Disney World Resort material is designed to talk up the transport as a benefit of staying at a Disney Resort as Yoda has also stated. Is there a requirement to state that a. other non resort hotels offer transportation to the parks, and that b. park to resort and park to park transportation is also available for non-resort guests? No.
I mite as well add in here, that we've been going each year since '96 and never been asked to produce a key to the world card or park ticket when getting on a resort or park bus.
Phonedave
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Bus riding is one thing, because nobody can seem to proove one way or the other if WDW transportation is open to all, or just open to resort guests (sort of like the Rutgers intercampus bus system, I knew it sounded familiar)
However, parking for free at the Contemporary for the sole purpose of avoiding a parking fee at the TTC is stealing.
You may be able to justify it in your mind, but call it what it is - stealing.
And no, I am not a hypocrite. I am no saint, I have said this before, but I admit that at times I am a theif and a liar. I steal and I lie - period end of story. There are no circumstances that negate that. They may excuse it, they may mitigate it, but I am still stealing and lying.
I don't revel in it, but I also don't make excuses for my actions.
-dave