Guess nothing happened with the MGM name change??

[dave2822]

I got a shot glass from there a few months ago and it said the Walt Disney Studios. No mention of MGM.

My reason:
Most, if not all, of new merchandise (including mention on DVD's or the trip planning DVD) state Disney Studios so that just in case the name change did happen, they wouldn't have to change all the merchandise around. People accept Disney Studios and MGM Studios hand in hand anyway.

And that's the main reason:

All promotional material has referred to the park as the Disney Studios for the past decade. It is part of the aggrement.

Or PMU Studios - :drevil: Poor mans Universal

Universal thanks you for your support. Now only if you could get 2 million more people to go there so they could beat out poor MGM.

 

[Connor002]

walt disney studios is the same name of disneyland paris' counterpart to the studios

mgm is absent form that incarnation of the park and perhaps thats because they realized their mistake here in the US. mgm is probally heading out of the picture, but i doubt its going to happen overnight

 

[Testtrack321]

Nothing has chainged, we were at the park on EMH on the 26th-27th, so we were expecting Al to run around trying to get the MGM name down, but it dosn't look like anything has chainged. It's still on the busses, signs, etc.

 

[JROK]

Universal thanks you for your support. Now only if you could get 2 million more people to go there so they could beat out poor MGM.

You mean to tell me that Universal Studios Orlando could not beat out Disney-MGM Studios? Doesn't MGM only get like 7 million visitors a year?

 

[Figment1986]

well.. Universal did get a profit last year... but not enought tourists like usual....

 

[peter11435]

You mean to tell me that Universal Studios Orlando could not beat out Disney-MGM Studios? Doesn't MGM only get like 7 million visitors a year?

In 2004 MGM got about 8.2 million, while Universal had only about 6 and a half million. Add that to IOA's 6.3 million. And both Universal parks only had about 13 million. That means there combined total was more than 2 million less than just the Magic Kingdom.

 

[JROK]

In 2004 MGM got about 8.2 million, while Universal had only about 6 and a half million. Add that to IOA's 6.3 million. And both Universal parks only had about 13 million. That means there combined total was more than 2 million less than just the Magic Kingdom.

Wow, I'm very suprised... does this include numbers from Halloween Horror Nights, because I know atleast 6 nights last year they had 50,000+ guests... so that's 300,000 in 6 nights not including the day guests numbers...

 

[peter11435]

Wow, I'm very suprised... does this include numbers from Halloween Horror Nights, because I know atleast 6 nights last year they had 50,000+ guests... so that's 300,000 in 6 nights not including the day guests numbers...

I am fairly sure they do not include Halloween Horror Nights. It would not be fair to add them in and compare anyway since MGM does not have any events such as that one. I am almost certain it is simply the day attendance for those 365 days.

 

[JROK]

I am fairly sure they do not include Halloween Horror Nights. It would not be fair to add them in and compare anyway since MGM does not have any events such as that one. I am almost certain it is simply the day attendance for those 365 days.

You mean because it's a seperate ticket event? Because MGM does Star Wars Weekends which is a really big draw for them as well as Super Soap Weekends and now ESPN Weekends... All Universal has is Halloween Horror Nights, Mardi Gras, Macy's Parade... and IOA has Grinchmas... unfortunately, a lot of the guests that attend HHN do not go to the parks during the day as well...

 

[marni1971]

walt disney studios is the same name of disneyland paris' counterpart to the studios

mgm is absent form that incarnation of the park and perhaps thats because they realized their mistake here in the US. mgm is probally heading out of the picture, but i doubt its going to happen overnight

Disney-MGM Studios Europe was slated to open in 1994,95,96 but DLP`s early finnancial situation put it on hold. Eventually the studios`s were built (alas a shadow of the original plans), but I believe they exceeded the time limit in the contract for a non US studio park to open, hence no MGM.

What is a fact is the 20 year contract was signed 27th June 1985. What may have been agreed with Sony, who knows? But I can virtually guarantee MGM didn`t grant them further use of the name under Kirk Kerkorian!

 

[peter11435]

You mean because it's a seperate ticket event? Because MGM does Star Wars Weekends which is a really big draw for them as well as Super Soap Weekends and now ESPN Weekends... All Universal has is Halloween Horror Nights, Mardi Gras, Macy's Parade... and IOA has Grinchmas... unfortunately, a lot of the guests that attend HHN do not go to the parks during the day as well...

Yeah I mean separate ticket events. Think about it if Universal had 12 HHN then that would in theory be like opening for 12 more days than MGM, thus the comparison would not be fair.

 

[Thrawn]

Disney-MGM Studios Europe was slated to open in 1994,95,96 but DLP`s early finnancial situation put it on hold. Eventually the studios`s were built (alas a shadow of the original plans), but I believe they exceeded the time limit in the contract for a non US studio park to open, hence no MGM.

What is a fact is the 20 year contract was signed 27th June 1985. What may have been agreed with Sony, who knows? But I can virtually guarantee MGM didn`t grant them further use of the name under Kirk Kerkorian!

How can you guarantee anything? You are not on Disney or MGM's boards. Further, how do you know that the contract wasn't 20 years from the opening of the park? How do you know there weren't any of hundreds of stipulations in the contract about extensions? You seem to believe you are some kind of expert on this subject, but the fact remains: The park hasn't been renamed, and this isn't the first time the contract was rumored to be running out.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Universal thanks you for your support. Now only if you could get 2 million more people to go there so they could beat out poor MGM.

Naaaaa bad idea, then id have to wait to do my fave attractions.

But Im glad to see so many of you avoid going and taking up valuable Q space.

 

[peter11435]

How can you guarantee anything? You are not on Disney or MGM's boards. Further, how do you know that the contract wasn't 20 years from the opening of the park? How do you know there weren't any of hundreds of stipulations in the contract about extensions? You seem to believe you are some kind of expert on this subject, but the fact remains: The park hasn't been renamed, and this isn't the first time the contract was rumored to be running out.

How dare you talk bad about Marni.

 

[JROK]

Yeah I mean separate ticket events. Think about it if Universal had 12 HHN then that would in theory be like opening for 12 more days than MGM, thus the comparison would not be fair.

Yea I can see why they do that... they should just take out their 12 lowest days and replace them with HHN ticket sales lol... then they'd probably around 7 million visitors... :animwink:

 

[marni1971]

How can you guarantee anything? You are not on Disney or MGM's boards. Further, how do you know that the contract wasn't 20 years from the opening of the park? How do you know there weren't any of hundreds of stipulations in the contract about extensions? You seem to believe you are some kind of expert on this subject, but the fact remains: The park hasn't been renamed, and this isn't the first time the contract was rumored to be running out.

Read my text again before you misquote me- VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE. AS IN ALL PROBABLILTY BASED ON COMMON KNOWLEDGE. DO YOUR RESEARCH. THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED JUNE 27th 1985. I have the WDP Press release. THAT IS NOT A RUMOUR. Get your facts right.

As I ALSO said, I don`t know what may or may not have been agreed since. I`m only relaying known facts. To those who want to listen.

Put your brain in gear before attacking me. And sort that attitude out -you have said before you don`t realise you are being rude - well, here is a prime example.

Just to re-itterate to those too thick and/or arrogant to listen; the original Disney MGM contract was signed June 27th 1985. It was signed for 20 years. What may or not have been agreed since is unknown, since MGM had been taken over, split, run into the ground, and just about vanished.

 

[Thrawn]

Read my text again before you misquote me- VIRTUALLY GUARANTEE. AS IN ALL PROBABLILTY BASED ON COMMON KNOWLEDGE. DO YOUR RESEARCH. THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED JUNE 27th 1985. I HAVE THE PRESS RELEASE FROM WDP. THAT IS NOT A RUMOUR. Get your facts right.

As I ALSO said, I don`t know what may or may not have been agreed since. I`m only relaying known facts. To those who want to listen.

Put your brain in gear before attacking me. And sort that attitude out -you have said before you don`t realise you are being rude - well, here is a prime example.

I don't care when the contract was signed. It doesn't matter, at all. You, nor I, nor anyone else on this message board has read the contract, and therefore does not know the terms. It is evident that the "20 years" was not true. If it was, there was an extension, or another term built into the contract. As I said, it could have been 20 years from the date of park opening, 20 years from the next year after the park opened, 20 years after the Great Movie Ride opened, 20 years after Cinderella's Castle launches missles, anything. I don't even know for sure that it was 20 years. You are the only person who seems to "know" that it was.
You are NOT the expert on the subject that you are trying to be. Am I? No. However, in one of the other threads, I stated that nothing would happen. I was right. You, on the other hand, were not.

 

[Thrawn]

Yeah I mean separate ticket events. Think about it if Universal had 12 HHN then that would in theory be like opening for 12 more days than MGM, thus the comparison would not be fair.

Even with those 12 seperate ticket events, the attendance would not touch Disney-MGM's. Just taking the 2 million number from earlier in the thread (not sure if its true, but I'll treat it as such), they would need to pull in 166,667 people on each of those events.

 

[boo52]

You, nor I, nor anyone else on this message board has read the contract, and therefore does not know the terms.

You really have no idea who reads these boards. You'd be surprised if you knew. Thats all I can say.

 

[mousermerf]

*waves little flag that says "Jim Hill is an idiot."*