Guardians of the Galaxy Preview at DHS...

71jason

71jason

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Matt_Black said:
The closest you get is Moondragon, who was an Avenger and did eventually join the team in the comics. However, she doesn't appear to figure into the film at all.
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Yeah, I only know her as an Avenger. Curious if that influenced the line-up of the movie any, although honestly, it's probably because green chicks more marketable than bald chicks.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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I'm pretty sure that Disney would not be advertising this in Orlando if things already had not occurred behind-the-scenes.

I have no knowledge in a way of this but that is generally how these companies operate.
 
jensenrick

jensenrick

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jdmdisney99 said:
I don't know about length but, as explained in the article from TPI, this wont have moving seats as it would violate the contract. Plus it makes more sense in Tomorrowland than Future World.
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Moving seats? Tomorrowland? What are you talking about? Is this a joke?

It has no thematic connection to Tomorrowland. It's a movie preview. The only theme you need is a light up marquee and maybe a popcorn stand before you go in the theater. Done.

Okay, maybe some of those cardboard cutouts of the stars at the exit, for photos. Now done.
 
jensenrick

jensenrick

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jdmdisney99 said:
Well, it seems interesting, but I still wish they would do more than Movie previews in the Sound Studio. It seems like a real waste of space.
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It's better than nothing, which is what we've had for years. Better than the poop that was Sounds Dangerous before that.

Here's hoping there is fresh popcorn at least. (crosses fingers)
 
jdmdisney99

jdmdisney99

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jensenrick said:
Moving seats? Tomorrowland? What are you talking about? Is this a joke?

It has no thematic connection to Tomorrowland. It's a movie preview. The only theme you need is a light up marquee and maybe a popcorn stand before you go in the theater. Done.

Okay, maybe some of those cardboard cutouts of the stars at the exit, for photos. Now done.
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You asked if this will go in Captain Eo at WDW. No it won't. It will in Disneyland though. They may or may not use the in theater effects (MOVING SEATS) there. And I said it makes MORE sense there than in Future World. I stand by that. Did you even see the trailer? (Don't think there's any spoilers in the following sentence...) It is about a rag tag group of heroes who go on an adventure throughout the GALAXY. It's a sci-fi superhero flick. Hmmm...seems quite similar to another attraction's IP inspiration right next door (*cough*Star Tours*cough*). It makes more sense there than in the Magic Eye Theater. That's all I said.

I'm also getting the hint you didn't read the Theme Park Insider article that explained the moving seats "clause".
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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This is legit because Guardians of the Galaxy does not contain any characters in the Avengers family, X-Men family or Spiderman family. Universal has rights to those characters, but not other Marvel characters. For the most part, Universal has access to the characters that the public knows.
 
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doctornick

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71jason said:
Only vague to internet fanbois. The quoted language above is directly from the contract. Cut and dry.
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The language is not vague, the interpretation is. Comic book characters are connected in often random and unwieldy ways that what defines a "family" can be different to different people. There's a lot of gray area as to what characters are covered, just that most of those gray area characters aren't popular enough to warrant any theme park stuff.

To expand on this, let's look at the relevant passage again: "any member of THE FANTASTIC FOUR, THE AVENGERS or villains associated with a hero being used". Does the clause "associated with a hero being used" refer only to "villains" or to all of the preceeding nouns? e.g. is it "any member of The Avengers" or "any member of The Avengers associated with the hero being used"? What defines "The Avengers"? Would an offshoot group like New Avengers or Dark Avengers count? What defines a character as a "member of the Avengers"? Current or active membership in the comics? What if they were just for a few issues of panels? What if the character was kicked out -- are they still a member? Is SHIELD something that could be used at WDW?

I'm just saying that there's wiggle room for Disney (or their lawyers really) to debate on some characters if they were worth it. But the characters that fall into that category are largely not worth fighting over. GotG, however, might fit.

All this assumes that Disney cares about bringing Marvel characters to WDW, which doesn't seem to be the case considering the (lack of) usage of such characters in other parks. So, it's probably just a pointless debate.
 
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Matt_Black

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doctornick said:
There's a lot of gray area as to what characters are covered, just that most of those gray area characters aren't popular enough to warrant any theme park stuff.
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Unless of course a big budget movie from a very hot studio turns into a major hit. We'll see in two months, I suppose.
 
Tony Perkis

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RSoxNo1 said:
This is legit because Guardians of the Galaxy does not contain any characters in the Avengers family, X-Men family or Spiderman family. Universal has rights to those characters, but not other Marvel characters. For the most part, Universal has access to the characters that the public knows.
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Thanos?
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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doctornick said:
The language is not vague, the interpretation is. Comic book characters are connected in often random and unwieldy ways that what defines a "family" can be different to different people. There's a lot of gray area as to what characters are covered, just that most of those gray area characters aren't popular enough to warrant any theme park stuff.

To expand on this, let's look at the relevant passage again: "any member of THE FANTASTIC FOUR, THE AVENGERS or villains associated with a hero being used". Does the clause "associated with a hero being used" refer only to "villains" or to all of the preceeding nouns? e.g. is it "any member of The Avengers" or "any member of The Avengers associated with the hero being used"? What defines "The Avengers"? Would an offshoot group like New Avengers or Dark Avengers count? What defines a character as a "member of the Avengers"? Current or active membership in the comics? What if they were just for a few issues of panels? What if the character was kicked out -- are they still a member? Is SHIELD something that could be used at WDW?

I'm just saying that there's wiggle room for Disney (or their lawyers really) to debate on some characters if they were worth it. But the characters that fall into that category are largely not worth fighting over. GotG, however, might fit.

All this assumes that Disney cares about bringing Marvel characters to WDW, which doesn't seem to be the case considering the (lack of) usage of such characters in other parks. So, it's probably just a pointless debate.
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Stop arguing with my lawyer.
 
jensenrick

jensenrick

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jdmdisney99 said:
You asked if this will go in Captain Eo at WDW. No it won't. It will in Disneyland though. They may or may not use the in theater effects (MOVING SEATS) there. And I said it makes MORE sense there than in Future World.
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Okay, I see. Because in DL, Captain EO is in Tomorrowland. Well, unfortunately in WDW, Captain EO continues to stink up Epcot. So I stand by what I said- a movie preview belongs in the empty theater in the movie park.

jdmdisney99 said:
Did you even see the trailer? (Don't think there's any spoilers in the following sentence...) It is about a rag tag group of heroes who go on an adventure throughout the GALAXY. It's a sci-fi superhero flick.
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Yes, I saw it. I might once have argued that Tomorrowland's theme was of the future, not just anything that happens in space, but the current Tomorrowland mocks my argument, so I'll give you that one.

jdmdisney99 said:
Hmmm...seems quite similar to another attraction's IP inspiration right next door (*cough*Star Tours*cough*).
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Which is in Disney's Hollywood Studios. I think we've come to an agreement.
 
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Matt_Black said:
He's tricky, as he's run afoul of practically every major Marvel superteam at some point.
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Thanos would be associated with Adam Warlock and his "family" of characters like Drax the Destroyer whom is in GOTG.

Thanos, for those who don't know was created by Jim Starlin and he was very protective of his creations and wouldn't just let them be used freely or by just anyone. He was not really a villain of the "famillies" exclusive to Universal. Ultron was definately an Avengers villain, Thanos not so much.
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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The Crafty Veteran said:
Thanos would be associated with Adam Warlock and his "family" of characters like Drax the Destroyer whom is in GOTG.

Thanos, for those who don't know was created by Jim Starlin and he was very protective of his creations and wouldn't just let them be used freely or by just anyone. He was not really a villain of the "famillies" exclusive to Universal. Ultron was definately an Avengers villain, Thanos not so much.
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Indeed. Like Darkseid from the "distinguished competition", Thanos is versatile enough to be an antagonist to many, many different heroes. Heck, he's tangled with Squirrel Girl and Lockjaw & the Pet Avengers!
 

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