Guardians of the Galaxy - Mission: BREAKOUT! Reviews, Photos, Info

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

The goal was to quickly and cheaply get Marvel into DCA. Chapek was stunned to learn that WDPR had been sitting on the Marvel treasure chest for years with no action. He was also stunned to see how slipshod WDI is with money.

GOTG checked a lot of boxes. Popular IP, making over a ride that very few in WDI were happy with, cheap (it wasn’t $100 mil), fast, got Marvel in a park. They knew fans would hate it and they don’t care. Fans are looked at as petulant and dumb.

So the goal wasn’t necessarily attendance alone - the goal was to provide a “new” attraction at used prices while promoting priority IP.

Evidently, it’s enough of a success that Pixar Pier got the greenlight next for similar reasons.

Sounds about right for a company with the singular goal of earning a quick buck.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

WDI had problems with it? Everything else makes sense but this one is hard to believe. Makes more sense that the mandate came down and it did the best they could. If WDI had a problem with TOT then they should have issues with about half of the Resort at a minimum.

When you say they knew fans would hate it, do you mean us hardcore fans or fan/ DL guests in general? I’m guessing the former.

DCA’s TOT was regarded as inferior due to all the corners cut on its original design and ride experience.

And yeah, hardcore fans.

 

[TROR]

DCA’s TOT was regarded as inferior due to all the corners cut on its original design and ride experience.

Not entirely, though. The ride system was considered a vast improvement over DHS's version of the attraction as it had a higher capacity and was less likely to break down. It's why DisneySEA's uses the same technology.

 

[mickEblu]

DCA’s TOT was regarded as inferior due to all the corners cut on its original design and ride experience.

And yeah, hardcore fans.

I’d love to know if those same people at WDI consider what replaced it as superior. I’m not sure how anyone at WDI could ever really feel that this quick replacement with movie screens could be better then the purpose built attraction that came before it. I’m sure as creatives they enjoy the challenge but...

I mean how many jobs are REALLY Available in theme entertainment anyway? So any chance an Imagineer gets to showcase what they re capable of I’m sure they ll jump on. Leaving something alone does nothing for their resume. Besides they re just doing what the marketing boss man says.

Anyway, WDI not being happy with DCA’s lesser version of TOT sounds like someone looking for silver linings and trying to justify something they re not quite sure about it and have no way of stopping anyway.

 

[mickEblu]

Not entirely, though. The ride system was considered a vast improvement over DHS's version of the attraction as it had a higher capacity and was less likely to break down. It's why DisneySEA's uses the same technology.

Haven’t been on WDWs but it seems like the ride experience was a little better at DCA. But the Exterior and grounds at WDWs make up for that.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Haven’t been on WDWs but it seems like the ride experience was a little better at DCA. But the Exterior and grounds at WDWs make up for that.

Most people feel that WDW’s is better in every way - kind of like most feel DL’s Pirates is superior to WDW’s. The lateral motion and weirdness of the 5th dimension room makes it for me - screams Twilight Zone in a way DCA’s didn’t.

 

[TROR]

Most people feel that WDW’s is better in every way - kind of like most feel DL’s Pirates is superior to WDW’s. The lateral motion and weirdness of the 5th dimension room makes it for me - screams Twilight Zone in a way DCA’s didn’t.

Hot take but although the moving elevator is a cool effect, the scene seriously sucks. It's a bunch of flat cutouts hanging on wires and a giant eyeball.

 

[mickEblu]

Most people feel that WDW’s is better in every way - kind of like most feel DL’s Pirates is superior to WDW’s. The lateral motion and weirdness of the 5th dimension room makes it for me - screams Twilight Zone in a way DCA’s didn’t.

Ya that 5th dimension room is really what makes WDWs feel like more like the show (albeit in a bare minimum way by using images from the TV show intro). I dunno, just feel like DCAs ride experience looks tighter if that makes sense. Again this is just based off a ride thru video. Looking forward to experiencing it in person.

 

[mickEblu]

Hot take but although the moving elevator is a cool effect, the scene seriously sucks. It's a bunch of flat cutouts hanging on wires and a giant eyeball.

Really!? That’s disappointing. That’s kind of how it comes across on video.

 

[TROR]

Really!? That’s disappointing. That’s kind of how it comes across on video.

I'm just going off what I've seen on video. I've never actually been to WDW.
[Prepares to get boo'd]

 

[mickEblu]

I'm just going off what I've seen on video. I've never actually been to WDW.
[Prepares to get boo'd]

Lol damn. I was hoping to be vindicated. Maybe it’s something we just can’t pick up on by watching video?

 

[TROR]

Lol damn. I was hoping to be vindicated. Maybe it’s something we just can’t pick up on by watching video?

Most likely. There's one thing I'll say that I think is really great about Tower of Terror at DHS that DCA never had and that's the freaky mannequin of the little girl in the elevator shaft. I've only ever seen one ride through with it, though, so I don't know how often it's actual a working effect or if it's usually taken out or what.

 

[SuddenStorm]

APs don't bring in cash like out of state visitors do. APs come to the park for an afternoon and leave. Out of state guests will spend more on merch, food, tickets, and possibly Disney hotels. Spending allegedly $100 mil to overdo an already popular attraction just to bring APs to DCA makes no sense unless the goal was to take them out of Disneyland. If that was the goal, though, it didn't work because they rode MB and went back to Disneyland.

AP's make the parks LOADS of money. They come for an evening, buy a churro and mint julep, hit a few rides, and leave. Or, they do what I did as an AP and spend a full day- purchase a meal, and spend hundreds over the year on food and merchandise. Or, they don't do any of that and Disney still gets their admission money, and since the gates rarely close from capacity, that's essentially free money for Disney.

The AP program has also fill the parks year round, where out of towners usually only come during peak vacation seasons.

It's rare to not see a line in any of the stores or food service establishments in the park- so the idea that AP's don't spend money doesn't jive with me. That program is a huge cash cow for the park.

 

[TROR]

AP's make the parks LOADS of money. They come for an evening, buy a churro and mint julep, hit a few rides, and leave. Or, they do what I did as an AP and spend a full day- purchase a meal, and spend hundreds over the year on food and merchandise. Or, they don't do any of that and Disney still gets their admission money, and since the gates rarely close from capacity, that's essentially free money for Disney.

The AP program has also fill the parks year round, where out of towners usually only come during peak vacation seasons.

It's rare to not see a line in any of the stores or food service establishments in the park- so the idea that AP's don't spend money doesn't jive with me. That program is a huge cash cow for the park.

AP's who visit for the afternoon and buy a churro vs a family of 4 staying at the Disneyland Hotel for 3 days
Which do you really think Disney would rather have?

 

[SuddenStorm]

AP's who visit for the afternoon and buy a churro vs a family of 4 staying at the Disneyland Hotel for 3 days
Which do you really think Disney would rather have?

Disney wants both. That family of 4 at the hotel that will likely only come during summer or winter break, and the AP's that buy churros help keep the parks full in the off season. It's unrealistic for Disney to expect anything more, and they know it. Until the parks start closing the gates regularly for capacity, they're gonna do everything they can to bring in AP's, as well as vacationers.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Disney wants both. That family of 4 at the hotel that will likely only come during summer or winter break, and the AP's that buy churros help keep the parks full in the off season. It's unrealistic for Disney to expect anything more, and they know it. Until the parks start closing the gates regularly for capacity, they're gonna do everything they can to bring in AP's, as well as vacationers.

Was about to say same thing. Disney wants both.

 

[TROR]

Disney wants both. That family of 4 at the hotel that will likely only come during summer or winter break, and the AP's that buy churros help keep the parks full in the off season. It's unrealistic for Disney to expect anything more, and they know it. Until the parks start closing the gates regularly for capacity, they're gonna do everything they can to bring in AP's, as well as vacationers.

Of course they want both in the long run, but I'm referring to completely overhauling an attraction. Which are they aiming for there? They're already getting APs to flood their parks from just throwing up a couple of photo ops and rare meet n greets. Bringing in more AP's was not the goal of MB because a lack of AP's is not a problem at the DLR. That's the point I'm trying to get to.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Of course they want both in the long run, but I'm referring to completely overhauling an attraction. Which are they aiming for there? They're already getting APs to flood their parks from just throwing up a couple of photo ops and rare meet n greets. Bringing in more AP's was not the goal of MB because a lack of AP's is not a problem at the DLR. That's the point I'm trying to get to.

Merchandise sales. Now, instead of just selling T shirts to park fans, they're selling T shirts to park fans, and Marvel fans. It also did boost attendance, if only temporarily- which helps food sales in the park, as well as merchandise.

It was also intended to help hype an upcoming Marvel land, and helped give Marvel an actual presence in the parks, which should do a lot for park attendance and merchandise revenue over the next decade as more Marvel enters the parks.

It also acts to bring in out of towners, or less regular visitors, since it's something new.

I understand you have a vendetta against Mission Breakout- and I get it, I have the same vendetta against the new Fantasmic, but I'm not sure I understand the points you're trying to make about it not helping DCA- since it's my understanding that it has. If it were a garbage attraction, that'd be another story.

 

[Disney Irish]

Merchandise sales. Now, instead of just selling T shirts to park fans, they're selling T shirts to park fans, and Marvel fans. It also did boost attendance, if only temporarily- which helps food sales in the park, as well as merchandise.

It was also intended to help hype an upcoming Marvel land, and helped give Marvel an actual presence in the parks, which should do a lot for park attendance and merchandise revenue over the next decade as more Marvel enters the parks.

It also acts to bring in out of towners, or less regular visitors, since it's something new.

I understand you have a vendetta against Mission Breakout- and I get it, I have the same vendetta against the new Fantasmic, but I'm not sure I understand the points you're trying to make about it not helping DCA- since it's my understanding that it has. If it were a garbage attraction, that'd be another story.

^^^This X1000^^^

 

[dweezil78]

Lol damn. I was hoping to be vindicated. Maybe it’s something we just can’t pick up on by watching video?

Yeah...it's less about any 'scene' and more about the fact that you are in an elevator suddenly moving forward thru a creepy shaft. And you know that at the end, you're going to be dropping... so it really helps drag out the suspense for that moment. It's great. Everything about DHS tower is great. When you walk up to that thing, you really feel like you're walking up to some creepy old hotel trapped in the 30s.

For most of us who grew up knowing the DHS version, we always felt like the DCA version was a cheap knockoff. Like we just got a taste of it but it was never the real thing.... That's really why I never got too outraged over Guardians coming in. Surprised, bewildered... sure. But I was never overly attached to our ToT here. I really hope you get out to WDW some day to see why!!!