Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

[Deleted member 107043]

I don't see the gift shop getting smaller though, not with all that Marvel merch to sell.

Nor do I, but who knows what kind of backroom storage the previous shop had or other adjacent offstage rooms that can be reconfigured to accommodate the shop and the reconfigured indoor queue. Point is anything is possible since it sounds like the ground floor of the building is being completely gutted or something close to it.

 

[BrianLo]

Go check out the IGN article for all the minutiae. I really hope Eric Goldman is still with them to cover the Star Wars Experience junkets.

 

[mickEblu]

Go check out the IGN article for all the minutiae. I really hope Eric Goldman is still with them to cover the Star Wars Experience junkets.

Thanks for sharing. Definitely has a lot more detail than the OC Register article. But some of the things coming out of Joe's mouth are making me cringe because hes lying through his teeth.

In defense of how out of place the Collectors Fortress will look in Hollywoodland... "“The [Guardians] world terminates and terminates very abruptly,” said Rohde, regarding the building standout from its surroundings. “That’s part of the whole ‘kaboom’ of this. As we know from many of these films, someone just unzippers the reality and giant, automated snake dragons come from somewhere. Or someone steps through a circle and disappears to the other side of the planet” When it came to the Collector’s warehouse, the idea was this thing has just ‘Kablam!”, appeared out of nowhere.”

So instead of just saying this will eventually be part of Marvel land he gives the above non sense? Admitting that it will look out of place but thats what GOTG is all about. Things appearing out of nowhere. LOL

This one got me too... The final portion of the queue will be the least-changed from Tower of Terror, as the original boiler room setting – albeit with some new signage and additional components on top of it -- works well for the industrial look Rohde said they wanted at this point of the attraction.

Yeah Sure. He wanted the industrial look. It definitely wasnt Disney looking for shortcuts and saying, "hey we already have the industrial look in the boiler room. Lets just call this new tower a museum/ oil refinery/ power plant that way it will be cheaper and faster."

Well cant blame the guy. You know what they say. Never bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[BrianLo]

Yeah Sure. He wanted the industrial look. It definitely wasnt Disney looking for shortcuts and saying, "hey we already have the industrial look in the boiler room. Lets just call this new tower a museum/ oil refinery/ power plant that way it will be cheaper and faster."

I actually don't think he's totally lying on that one though, yes it was definitely convenient it matches the industrial aesthetic. However, considering they are redoing the exterior to make it industrial, they didn't exactly take the path of least resistance. It would have been cheaper and faster to keep it a hotel and change the boiler room instead.

Rohde still reads like he's barely a Marvel fan though. Which is funny he's in charge of the whole portfolio.

 

[mickEblu]

I actually don't think he's totally lying on that one though, yes it was definitely convenient it matches the industrial aesthetic. However, considering they are redoing the exterior to make it industrial, they didn't exactly take the path of least resistance. It would have been cheaper and faster to keep it a hotel and change the boiler room instead.

Rohde still reads like he's barely a Marvel fan though. Which is funny he's in charge of the whole portfolio.

So then you at least agree my first point above is complete BS.

No its definitely not the path of least resistance but its close. I actually wish they would have chose the path of least resistance... leaving TOT alone. Lol. They could have went so many other ways with this. I would have preferred something like "GOTG crash landed at the Hollywood Tower Hotel trying to find (fill in the blank) or trying to escape from (Fill in the blank)." At least the tower wouldn't clash with the surrounding area so much. I know Marvel land is probably coming but until it is announced its a valid point. On the flip side, I could see how leaving the tower as the Hollywood Tower Hotel could possibly be a painful reminder to fans instead of just ripping off the band-aid. Anyway, its too bad GOTG didn't get its own new attraction. The GOTG IP seems better suited for a launch coaster than Captain America. An advanced simulator could have been cool too.

Its funny, I am not a huge Marvel fan so I didn't really pick up on Joe not being one. But now that you said it, I can kind of see what you re talking about.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Strange they would keep the boiler room the same.

The fact that they're leaving the boiler room the same just reeks of cheapness, as does this whole project.

Honestly, they're overlaying a ride, instead of gutting the building and building a new ride system (Like the Adventure thru Inner Space to Star Tours conversion). And they're leaving the boiler room the same to remind us of what was for the rest of time.

 

[sedati]

Maybe it's like the Tate in London. A museum in a power plant. The prison aspect only comes from the point of view of the exhibits who are living and therefore trapped inside.
Don't get the Joe not being into marvel vibe, but I think he would approach it like an intricate new culture that he gets to explore the history of and that seems right up his alley.

 

[MisterPenguin]

They're totally retheming the exterior, the ride shafts, the first part of the ride to a faster pace with a chaotic zoo escape, and two of the three rooms in the queue... and they're cheapskates for only lightly retheming the boiler room?

 

[180º]

They're totally retheming the exterior, the ride shafts, the first part of the ride to a faster pace with a chaotic zoo escape, and two of the three rooms in the queue... and they're cheapskates for only lightly retheming the boiler room?

When you look at it that way, maybe not, but if you consider
• The entire infrastructure for the ride is already in place
• That ride itself is a copy of Paris' plans
• Those plans were an efficiency-engineered simplification of a far superior original attraction

Even if they had stripped out every last remaining HTH decoration, it already feels like we're getting the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of a ride. Now that they aren't even bothering to completely re-skin the scenery, it kinda feels like we're getting the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of the ride.

(Edited to clarify)

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Go check out the IGN article for all the minutiae. I really hope Eric Goldman is still with them to cover the Star Wars Experience junkets.

Very informative. Thanks!

 

[sedati]

They're totally retheming the exterior, the ride shafts, the first part of the ride to a faster pace with a chaotic zoo escape, and two of the three rooms in the queue... and they're cheapskates for only lightly retheming the boiler room?

The talk about the mass escape of exhibits is pretty exciting- if you've seen the third act of "Cabin In The Woods," you can get a sense of how this could go.
I'm most intrigued by the talk about how the ride system can be altered while staying in tact. If they are willing to extend the ride time, there's actually a lot that could be done. Whereas this tower has all the show-scenes in one shaft (as opposed to Florida) the show scenes could be used to perform double duty. Imagine the hallway effects scene being used initially for one purpose, but in the midst of the drop sequence, you actually stop there again and witness a second scenario using that same space. There was talk of a scene that would show the galaxy itself that was guessed to be the top of the shaft, but this could be a replacement for the mirror scene. I get the apprehension around this makeover, but there does seem to be a lot to get excited for.

 

[yookeroo]

When you look at it that way, maybe not, but if you consider
• The entire infrastructure for the ride is already in place
• That ride itself is an off-the-shelf copy of Paris' plans
• Those plans were an efficiency-engineered simplification of a far superior original attraction

Even if they had stripped out every last remaining HTH decoration, it already feels like we're getting the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of a ride. Now that they aren't even bothering to completely re-skin the scenery, it kinda feels like we're getting the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of the ride.

That's a rather unique usage of "off-the-shelf".

Cheap version: DCA vs. WDW? Ok

Of a

Cheap version: Gotg vs. Twilight Zone? Remains to be seen. But OK.

Of a

Cheap version? Not sure what the 3rd cheap version is meant to be.

 

[180º]

That's a rather unique usage of "off-the-shelf".

Cheap version: DCA vs. WDW? Ok

Of a

Cheap version: Gotg vs. Twilight Zone? Remains to be seen. But OK.

Of a

Cheap version? Not sure what the 3rd cheap version is meant to be.

You're right, off the shelf is the wrong word. Primeval Whirl is off-the-shelf. What I meant was that the DLR did not pay for the designs when they built Tower of Terror in DCA. Building it was a quick fix solution, and all of the design for the attraction was paid for by Paris a few years prior.

Funny enough, the Tower project in Paris had a pretty large budget, but the result is still a simplified, blander version of the WDW original.

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

They're totally retheming the exterior, the ride shafts, the first part of the ride to a faster pace with a chaotic zoo escape, and two of the three rooms in the queue... and they're cheapskates for only lightly retheming the boiler room?

The boiler room I am predicting will have different lighting.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The boiler room I am predicting will have different lighting.

They definitely should have removed the boiler room and made a ship's engine room with lots of duct work and pipes and steam and large metallic boxes and cylinders with gauges. And added lights.

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

They definitely should have removed the boiler room and made a ship's engine room with lots of duct work and pipes and steam and large metallic boxes and cylinders with gauges. And added lights.

I think Disney is being a bit too nice to us TOT fans.

 

[snek]

So then you at least agree my first point above is complete BS.

I agree with this point. I think the reasoning given for the out of place look of the attraction is lacking.

Anyway, its too bad GOTG didn't get its own new attraction. The GOTG IP seems better suited for a launch coaster than Captain America. An advanced simulator could have been cool too.

I know it's still using the drop ride type, but from what I've read it sounds like it will be significantly different. As long as they aren't just hyping this up and deliver on what they've said, this attraction sounds exciting to me. I sort of view it as a simulator type ride because it's gonna be a lot of screens and visual affects to make up for the lack of differing motion.

I hope they deliver.

 

[sedati]

Even if they had stripped out every last remaining HTH decoration, it already feels like we're getting the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of a ride. Now that they aren't even bothering to completely re-skin the scenery, it kinda feels like we're getting the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of the cheap version of the ride.

The TOT lobby was all about mood and did it well, but it was by purpose a lifeless space. I can't see how this is considered a cheapening. The revised area will be full of life. From the concept art I'm hoping for some animatronics- especially of Cosmo (cosmonaut dog.) They didn't say it, but perhaps we'll get a Rocket head poking out of an air duct. All TOT had was a tiny screen with a video on it and some lightning effects in the preshow. Worked for what that theme needed, but far from ambitious. I'm thinking even if the boiler room remains mostly the same, a lot will be done audibly. This attraction should feel more complete from start to finish than it's predecessor, with story elements laid throughout.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Great article but still not excited about the forced overlay.

 

[mickEblu]

I agree with this point. I think the reasoning given for the out of place look of the attraction is lacking.


I know it's still using the drop ride type, but from what I've read it sounds like it will be significantly different. As long as they aren't just hyping this up and deliver on what they've said, this attraction sounds exciting to me. I sort of view it as a simulator type ride because it's gonna be a lot of screens and visual affects to make up for the lack of differing motion.

I hope they deliver.

I'm hoping for the best and I'm sure it ll be fun. It's just hard for me to look past how they are shoehorning GOTG into A haunted hotel drop ride and what was a TOP 3 attraction for me. I can admit that at least half of the reason I loved the ride was the thrill portion and that will still be there and may be even more thrilling from what I'm reading. However, I feel that in the long term this is a net loss for the resort. Not financially but creatively. The Old Hollywood haunted hotel theme was classic and timeless. Oh well.