Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

[Ismael Flores]

No, people grew up with the hollywood tower hotel and twilight zone tower of terror, and they can visit the park and see with their own eyes what they perceive to be an abomination. The position of your argument is that all will be relieved when people realize their bodies can still be flung up and down in an elevator shaft. That assumes that the utility of the ride is the ride system. That is an entirely one-sided perspective. The opposite of which is that the utility of the ride (what it delivers, what people get out of it, what people desire from it) is entirely about the experience of the hotel, the suspense, the jazz and the mood of the place and the twilight zone theme song. I would argue that to many people, those far outweigh the utility that you value, which is the drop profile, the sensation of just being flung around. However, the truth is somewhere in the middle, which nobody seems to understand, and most people wont simply feel relief when they see that the building that was once the hollywood tower hotel was repainted and decorated in a cheap halloween costume to promote some movie franchise that's been hot for a few months.

Its funny this was brought up because a few coworkers that actually have annual passes but only go to the resort occasionally did thinkt he tower was being demolished when it was announced. Several were so upset because their favorite ride was going to be removed so they were some of those that went online and left comments of hating the decision. Once they realize that the tower was there and saw that it was just being repainted and Marvelized they didn't care.

I'm sure there is plenty of people on both sides of the changes, some really hate it because they liked the haunted hotel theme and others really don't care as long as it end with a drop.

 

[Curious Constance]

Its funny this was brought up because a few coworkers that actually have annual passes but only go to the resort occasionally did thinkt he tower was being demolished when it was announced. Several were so upset because their favorite ride was going to be removed so they were some of those that went online and left comments of hating the decision. Once they realize that the tower was there and saw that it was just being repainted and Marvelized they didn't care.

I'm sure there is plenty of people on both sides of the changes, some really hate it because they liked the haunted hotel theme and others really don't care as long as it end with a drop.

I had a friend from work also get upset because she thought her favorite ride was being removed. Once I explained what was happening, she felt better and resolved to watch the GOTG movie lol

 

[Curious Constance]

I probably won't ever see the movie, but the Guardians soundtrack pops up on my YouTube now due to watching some construction videos. I have been listening to many of the Guardians songs lately, and I'm looking forward to it just because of the music and fresh vibe it represents.

I think this could be a really fun ride.

I know it might be an insult to your extreme fanciness, but you really should give the movie a try. I think the humor in these movies is such a big part of the story that it allows people who normally hate superhero movies to enjoy it. My daughter normally hates Marvel movies, literally falls asleep with boredom, but she loves GOTG. My husband pretty much dislikes Hollywood in general, lol, and he was laughing the whole way through the movie!

 

[mickEblu]

I had a friend from work also get upset because she thought her favorite ride was being removed. Once I explained what was happening, she felt better and resolved to watch the GOTG movie lol

It's odd to me that people can so easily separate the ride mechanism from the entire experience but I guess I'm not the average park guest. I understand that the ride mechanism is a huge part of the experience but to me the theme was just as big and each one only strengthened the other.

 

[yookeroo]

I actually thought of you as I was writing that line LOL

I resisted the urge to be sarcastic in that post. I'm proud of myself.

 

[Curious Constance]

I resisted the urge to be sarcastic in that post. I'm proud of myself.

You really should be. That's HUGE progress!

 

[Curious Constance]

It's odd to me that people can so easily separate the ride mechanism from the entire experience but I guess I'm not the average park guest. I understand that the ride mechanism is a huge part of the experience but to me the theme was just as big and each one only strengthened the other.

It's easy to forget that we really are a minority in the public perception of Disneyland. I think most people don't give the park a thought between trips there. A lot of people may go once or twice in their lives and that's it. Even the people that go every couple years or even yearly probably don't care that much about changes that are happening. As long as they have a good time when they're there, that's enough for them. The percentage of people that care to the point that we do, is probably veeeeerrrrryyyyy small.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It's odd to me that people can so easily separate the ride mechanism from the entire experience but I guess I'm not the average park guest. I understand that the ride mechanism is a huge part of the experience but to me the theme was just as big and each one only strengthened the other.

The "average guest" is a polite way to call other people stupid. It's a nonsense term and this would be why it has no real meaning. If the ride system was so important then there a plenty of other, better and cheaper places to get that experience. Disney's California Adventure even had another tower ride that was removed just to be rid of it.

 

[mickEblu]

The "average guest" is a polite way to call other people stupid. It's a nonsense term and this would be why it has no real meaning. If the ride system was so important then there a plenty of other, better and cheaper places to get that experience. Disney's California Adventure even had another tower ride that was removed just to be rid of it.

Good point. When Maliboomer went away I doubt there was even close to the amount of negative feedback from the "average guest." I wouldn't call them stupid but I will say that they themselves probably don't truly understand why they really liked TOT (because they re not sitting around analyzing as we do) so their knee jerk reaction is to say "phew the tower is still physically there and it still drops."

 

[mickEblu]

It's easy to forget that we really are a minority in the public perception of Disneyland. I think most people don't give the park a thought between trips there. A lot of people may go once or twice in their lives and that's it. Even the people that go every couple years or even yearly probably don't care that much about changes that are happening. As long as they have a good time when they're there, that's enough for them. The percentage of people that care to the point that we do, is probably veeeeerrrrryyyyy small.

ya it's hard to believe that anyone NOT on these boards care as much as we do. I think it's a mixed bag. There are casual guests that care and those that don't. There are those of us here that care and those that don't. One thing I will stand by though, is that this project has received unprecedented negative feedback from casual guests. I know many here may not agree, but when you read some of those posts on social media, it's easy to see that many are in fact coming casual guests. As I said before, the reaction from the general public to this overlay is indifferent at best. And that's kind of shocking considering this is a "new" Disneyland E ticket based on a hot property. I wonder how much different the reaction would have been if this was announced as a new ride.

 

[SuddenStorm]

A point I've seen made regarding the reception to MB is that while it appears negative, it's only the same few thousand people posting hte same negative opinions on Youtube, Twitter, the forums, etc. so the negative reception isn't indicative of the thoughts of the casual park goer, who is likely thrilled to have a new ride experience, or even worse, impartial to having a new ride. When a video receives numerous dislikes, but only a few likes, it's hard to believe that that's just the die hards skewing the results. It almost has to be a sign that overall, the public is either unaware, doesn't care, or isn't happy about the change.

While I'm simplifying a complex subject, the thing that sticks out the most is that it lowers the quality of opinion of the fans, or those with an attachment to the ride. Shouldn't Disney care what their die hard fans think and want? We may have a reputation of being resistant to change, but I think we're mostly resistant to bad or unwarranted change. Most on here would argue for a Tomorrowland reimagining. An overhaul of Toontown. An extensive Matterhorn refurb.

There is also the argument that we'll go anyways. We love it to much, so even if they alter a few things we will still keep coming in droves. But especially in DCA's case, that might not happen. I haven't stepped foot in DCA in two years, but have gone to DL Park multiple times. The AP holders could start skipping MB, as opposed to making it a ride to go on every time like ToT.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Good point. When Maliboomer went away I doubt there was even close to the amount of negative feedback from the "average guest." I wouldn't call them stupid but I will say that they themselves probably don't truly understand why they really liked TOT (because they re not sitting around analyzing as we do) so their knee jerk reaction is to say "phew the tower is still physically there and it still drops."

I was saying that those who invoke the term "average guest" (or "general public") are the ones saying everyone else is stupid. It's a faceless group that is supposed to serve as this ultimate justification for any and all decisions.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Hate to break it to that guy, but DCA's ToT was always basically all screens too without a single AA -- so the addition of 1 AA is already a huge plus.

Scene #1 is literally a mirror/screen on a wall surrounded by a few lights, plants, and a table (craaaaaazy theming, right??). A similar special effect can be found in the Star Tours queue now. Scene #2 is a hallway with a screen at the end of it for a projection that lasted all of 20 seconds maybe?). Assuming they still use the depth available in scene #2 and don't literally open the doors to a screen (if they ditch this, that is beyond stupid), we're not talking any difference here.

Let's be clear -- minus a few fun special fx and the actual drops, what you see below WAS the entirety of the the ToT ride.

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The Florida version (so highly praised in comparison) is not much better for actual show scenes. One is nearly identical, and the other features minimal effects and a fairly random collection of props. Neither has AAs of any kind. In the case of both rides, what the elevator does is more important to the overall experience than the quality or number of on-ride sets, which by Disney E-Ticket standards is low. They each however, achieve their intended affect.

The success of ToT owes a lot to its set up (queue, lobby, pre-show) and the general sense of unease that comes from being put in the dark without knowing what the elevator will actually do. This is why the horizontal movement and random drops are so critical to the Florida model's overall emjoyment, along with the superior place making that makes it seem like you're touring an actual hotel.

But in comparison to Pirates, RSR or SSE? No, the show scenes for either ToT are not that great in scale or number, and unfortunately it looks like Mission: Breakout doesn't do anything to change that situation.

 

[Bob Harlem]

I heard a rumor this ride now involved using 3-D glasses, anyone else know for sure?

 

[mickEblu]

I was saying that those who invoke the term "average guest" (or "general public") are the ones saying everyone else is stupid. It's a faceless group that is supposed to serve as this ultimate justification for any and all decisions.

Gotcha and I agree.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I heard a rumor this ride now involved using 3-D glasses, anyone else know for sure?

I read that on another board as well, first I've heard of this.

 

[Kram Sacul]

I heard a rumor this ride now involved using 3-D glasses, anyone else know for sure?

Toxic waste exterior, constantly moving drop profiles and now 3-D? They're really trying to get people sick with this thing aren't they?

 

[MisterPenguin]

They're really trying to get people sick with this thing aren't they?

Yep. Disney's goal is to get every guest so sick that all the parks fail and they all lose their jobs and their families go hungry and homeless. You've figured out the code!

 

[No Name]

Please no 3D glasses. It's so overused... many rides would be better without them.

Forbidden Journey is a great example of this. The original attraction in Florida has never used 3D. They opened the Japan and Hollywood versions with 3D, and shortly after opening, Hollywood got rid of it. The ride works best without having to put on glasses.

If Alcatraz requires special glasses, I'll be quite upset. I'll be upset if Mission Breakout does too.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Yep. Disney's goal is to get every guest so sick that all the parks fail and they all lose their jobs and their families go hungry and homeless. You've figured out the code!

You actually thought Kram was serious about the 'sick' comment?