Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

BrianLo

BrianLo

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nevol said:
No, people grew up with the hollywood tower hotel and twilight zone tower of terror, and they can visit the park and see with their own eyes what they perceive to be an abomination. The position of your argument is that all will be relieved when people realize their bodies can still be flung up and down in an elevator shaft. That assumes that the utility of the ride is the ride system. That is an entirely one-sided perspective. The opposite of which is that the utility of the ride (what it delivers, what people get out of it, what people desire from it) is entirely about the experience of the hotel, the suspense, the jazz and the mood of the place and the twilight zone theme song. I would argue that to many people, those far outweigh the utility that you value, which is the drop profile, the sensation of just being flung around. However, the truth is somewhere in the middle, which nobody seems to understand, and most people wont simply feel relief when they see that the building that was once the hollywood tower hotel was repainted and decorated in a cheap halloween costume to promote some movie franchise that's been hot for a few months.
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I think you misunderstand me. You are preaching to the choir. I'm not arguing what I think, I'm arguing how I expect the GP to react. For the GP the utility is in being flung around, the atmosphere is the bonus, in this case a currently hotter property. Just look to how much more popular Haunted Mansion Holiday or Hyperspace Mountain are. Frozstrom was the example because despite how maligned the decision was on many levels here, it never panned out in the real world for guest satisfaction.

Despite how it looks on the outside, I expect atmospherically the innards itself will still provide essentially the same experience - from the perspective of the GP. More on the nose likely. But the ride still will have atmosphere and a through line, it's not like they just shunt guests onto the drop shaft and call it a day.

All I'm really saying is if you hope/expect guest reviews for this to be poor and lines to dry up, you are going to be disappointed. That's again not reflective of what I personally think of the job they did, but how I expect the general audience will embrace it regardless.
 
Travel Junkie

Travel Junkie

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BrianLo said:
All I'm really saying is if you hope/expect guest reviews for this to be poor and lines to dry up, you are going to be disappointed. That's again not reflective of what I personally think of the job they did, but how I expect the general audience will embrace it regardless.
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I'm sure the guest satisfaction ratings will be similar to TOT and sell more merch so Disney will count it as a win. There is also a middle ground here. IMO the building is ugly and it was a poor decision long term for Disney. I'll still probably check out the ride in the first couple of weeks. It's not contradictory to dislike the decision but still go on the ride. People get caught up that you have to boycott the company or never go on the ride if you disagree with the decision. It's the only drop tower Disney has, so most people will go on it just to get that sensation, regardless of theme

I was standing in front of the building the other day for a while listening to other people's conversations about it as they stared at it. Most were like it looks weird but whatever.
 
Donaldfan1934

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Virtual Insanity said:
I'm sure the guest satisfaction ratings will be similar to TOT and sell more merch so Disney will count it as a win. There is also a middle ground here. IMO the building is ugly and it was a poor decision long term for Disney. I'll still probably check out the ride in the first couple of weeks. It's not contradictory to dislike the decision but still go on the ride. People get caught up that you have to boycott the company or never go on the ride if you disagree with the decision. It's the only drop tower Disney has, so most people will go on it just to get that sensation, regardless of theme

I was standing in front of the building the other day for a while listening to other people's conversations about it as they stared at it. Most were like it looks weird but whatever.
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My thoughts exactly. While I still think changing ToT permanently was a inexcusably careless long term decision on Disney's part, I, as a Marvel fan, am looking forward to the opening festivities while I'm down there next week. Honestly, I question how much innovation was put into it considering the attraction was closed for less than 6 months, but I am hoping the imagineers involved made the best out of what has been a very bad situation.
 
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Travel Junkie

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I actually like the sign, except for the ridiculous breakout spray paint look.


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dweezil78

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I'm totally in the minority, but I think the final building is way more interesting to look at than DCA's original ToT (DHS still wins). Aside from it currently feeling out of place, I honestly don't think it looks bad or have an issue with seeing it in other areas of the park.

The sides, in particular, look a lot better from around the park and feel more complete than they did with its previous incarnation.
 
Ismael Flores

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MisterPenguin said:
Does DL have the place to build one or more several story buildings for on-site backstage stuff? They could make the facade facing the park something thematic for the place it's located (other than a cartoonish solid blue with stenciled clouds).
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I'm really surprised that sometime they don't think above and beyond the present when it comes to construction. When Carsland was built a large section of the rockwork was used to hide the show building but other areas are just huge metal structures with chicken wire molds and concrete theming. I would think that maybe some of those areas could have had structures built Into the rock facades that could be use for in house backstage use.
 
nevol

nevol

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TP2000 said:
They just need to build basements. Gosh, maybe even a few Utilidors, which would be cheaper and easier in Anaheim's sandy soil than Orlando's swamp. Those green pre-fab buildings are the epitome of cheap construction, likely barely rated to handle 7.5 earthquakes and minor tornadoes. The contents of each building costs more than the building itself. They can be replaced quite easily with a basement, it's just going to cost a few million more than a pre-fab metal building would for the same square footage.

A financial reminder: For Fiscal 2017 Second Quarter, January-March '17, the net income (pure after-tax profit) for the Parks & Resorts division of the Walt Disney Company increased 20% to $750 Million. In three months. For just the Parks division. And Easter fell in mid April this year, so March was slower than normal at the theme parks and cruise ships. $750 Million.

They can afford to build a basement. :D
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Dang. Puts things into perspective. Each star wars land costs about 4 months of profit.
 
nevol

nevol

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Rich T said:
But this is a theme park forum. Complaining endlessly is what happens. :D I get aggravated when I see Disney execs making tone-deaf decisions, but I know when I post I often sound angrier than I really am. I think the new Tower is the ugliest thing this side of the rotting Peoplemover tracks. That's as far as my issue goes.

And as far as not giving WDCo my money, the process has already begun. I used to visit DL two or three times a year (for decades) and I've bought an embarrassing amount of souvenirs. It's now been two years since my last trip, and I have no burning desire to go back or buy a single Disney product beyond a digital purchase of a movie I like. I'm sure as heck not returning just to see MB. I still love what's great about the parks, and I'm curious to see Star Wars Land, but I've reached a point where my good memories of the place--and all the inspiration I've gotten there--are enough for a while. I've mentioned this before, but the parks have reached a point where the "business" side of DL is becoming so visible, ruthless and in-your-face obnoxious that the illusion they're selling is getting less and less effective. The balance is off.
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I dont disagree entirely. A lot bugs me about the parks but it isn't just the new stuff, its things that are permanent that I think shouldn't be, or not where they are located, like Buzz, Ariel's Grotto in the hub, A Bug's Land, etc. But I've been pleasantly surprised when I visit with my ability to get lost in it all. On the forums we tend to talk about whats changing, what's in jeopardy, what is on the horizon. Its all of the things in flux. The frozen ever after banners for example along the tram route when that was opening and season of the force and all of these things that seem like they are intruding on the experience when images of them appear online, actually don't carry that weight in the real world. Rather than 4 marketing banners being among 40 images, a 10% presence of total stimuli in an article/update, in real life, they're almost unnoticeable, and still avoidable, while the richness of main street, fantasyland, new orleans square, adventureland all remain untouched (for the most part). Not arguing that you should cut your time off from the parks short, but I know when you get back over there to check out star wars, you'll really appreciate it all again.
 
D.Silentu

D.Silentu

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I'm really shocked that they didn't make use of the fiber optics they had wired up on the sign. I always imagined the signage to read similar to what is does now ie. "The Tivian Collection Presents: Guardians of the Galaxy." Then (perhaps with spray can sound effects) "Mission: Breakout" would appear underneath in fiber optics. Though, I do like the 'stolen' letters.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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I'm sorry, but the only "game" this attraction changes is the guessing game: "What's that sticking up in the back of DCA?"

For this to truly be a game changer, it needed to be wholly unique and built from scratch, not simply the GotG version of ToT.
 

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