News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

[No Name]

I have already said this on here, but it bears repeating. Also the room with the railings appears to be after the galaxarium ramp but before the pre show rooms. Maybe the "upstairs" bit is some what limited, but im failing to understand why the court of Niche opinion has come to the verdict that the ride is terrible

Some complaints are valid but a couple loud mouths here have just decided they hate the ride from the day it was announced. If this room was the most impressive thing they’ve ever seen, they’d be complaining that too much money was spent on the queue instead of the ride.

Did everyone forget that "museum" rumor that was supposed to hold some vintage EPCOT stuff? From Zach's post it sounds like it's part of the queue now.

It was always.

 

[totchos]

I think that AA was sort of the perfect example of how the media will lie for Disney. So much was said about how amazing it was, it’s just a big fish tank floater.

Nah that AA is very impressive. Every person i've ever gone through that queue with is shocked at how real it looks. They spend the rest of the line debating on how it works.

Side note: So many people think its not actually in the tank of water. Like its behind it or something.

 

[totchos]

Im honestly trying to get a better sense of the intensity of the ride. I keep hearing the term “family coaster” and then “reverse backwards launch up a steep hill.” How is that in any way a family coaster?

I guess ill just have to see how it plays out upon opening. I also saw on dsny newscast that the ride will be faster than rnrc at some points yet has a 42 inch height requirement?? Very confused as to what to expect

 

[No Name]

Im honestly trying to get a better sense of the intensity of the ride. I keep hearing the term “family coaster” and then “reverse backwards launch up a steep hill.” How is that in any way a family coaster?

I guess ill just have to see how it plays out upon opening. I also saw on dsny newscast that the ride will be faster than rnrc at some points yet has a 42 inch height requirement?? Very confused as to what to expect

Not sure why the word “family” implies people must have spines like toothpicks. RNRC is a family coaster too for families like mine. If someone in a family doesn’t like the backwards launch, maybe it’s time to reevaluate the family. I’m kidding, maybe. My point is it doesn’t have to be a baby coaster and I personally hope it’s plenty thrilling.

 

[Patcheslee]

Im honestly trying to get a better sense of the intensity of the ride. I keep hearing the term “family coaster” and then “reverse backwards launch up a steep hill.” How is that in any way a family coaster?

I guess ill just have to see how it plays out upon opening. I also saw on dsny newscast that the ride will be faster than rnrc at some points yet has a 42 inch height requirement?? Very confused as to what to expect

Family coasters are usually given that name because of low height requirements and lack of inversions.

 

[montyz81]

Ok, with all the controversy already surrounding this first room of the queue, lets compare a "classic" epcot queue with the galaxarium:

Horizons:
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Cosmic Rewind:

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It won't be the most popular opinion in the room, but they honestly share a lot in common. Only differences are quality of video and a few more colors used in Horizons. Considering how short the very front of Energy is, I'm expecting this to be a smaller space than it looks. I might be wrong though.

Now, I'm not a fan of every single queue in EPCOT being purely blue lights. We need some variety in that department.

Actually, if you think about it. Theming in a queue line did not really exist at Epcot Center. Most of the Future world rides queued outside. At all of the World Showcase rides, the pavilion itself was the queue. Horizons was probably the most themed queue of FW.
I think this room looks fine and will not pass judgement of the ride until I have achieved BIS (butt in seat).
I have no doubt this is going to be an excellent ride. My beef is that it would be an even better ride in Hollywood Studios.

 

[Coaster Lover]

Im honestly trying to get a better sense of the intensity of the ride. I keep hearing the term “family coaster” and then “reverse backwards launch up a steep hill.” How is that in any way a family coaster?

"Steep" is a relative term, but seeing the images from construction, it doesn't look significantly steeper than 45 ot 55 degrees which is really not that steep (Plenty of examples of coasters with drops at that angle or steeper). With regards to the backwards launch, the intensity of the launch is really dependant on the acceleration (comparing the launches on RnRC to Slinky Dog would be a good comparison). Further, this won't be the first "family" coaster with a backwards launch (Firechaser Express at Dollywood quickly comes to mind as an example). I'm not trying to debate that this could possibly be more intense than some may expect... just that the reasons why you provided for the ride being intense are not necessairily exclusionary attributes for a family coaster.

 

[Thelazer]

I'll take Radok screens any day over this preshow.

 

[montyz81]

“Building off the legacy of EPCOT as a place where discovery and curiosity comes to life, The Galaxarium is a planetarium-like exhibition where Guests will first be introduced to Xandar and the many similarities we share with our Xandarian visitors.”
Good lord does this feel like pandering and a feeble attempt at justifying this rides placement in Epcot. Come on Zach, we aren’t as dumb as you think!

 

[MisterPenguin]

This is the rationale for Awesome Mix Live.

The Xandarians, upon learning of Earth (or, at least, a now space-faring Earth) wish to create moments of cultural exchange. So... where should they showcase their culture and tech?

Well, at a place that seems to be a permanent intercultural exchange: EPCOT.

I guess they could have gone with The Smithsonian or The Louvre, but EPCOT won. See, it's funny because they have the wrong idea about EPCOT, not knowing it's more for entertainment than serious cultural exhibition.

The Collector wanted to display his collection to the masses, and so, where are there tons of visitors? Disneyland California Adventure!

 

[DCBaker]

Some designs being added to the ground -

 

[_caleb]

New look inside -

Seamless integration with Epcot’s acoustic tile drop ceiling design language.

 

[tommyhawkins]

"Steep" is a relative term, but seeing the images from construction, it doesn't look significantly steeper than 45 ot 55 degrees which is really not that steep (Plenty of examples of coasters with drops at that angle or steeper). With regards to the backwards launch, the intensity of the launch is really dependant on the acceleration (comparing the launches on RnRC to Slinky Dog would be a good comparison). Further, this won't be the first "family" coaster with a backwards launch (Firechaser Express at Dollywood quickly comes to mind as an example). I'm not trying to debate that this could possibly be more intense than some may expect... just that the reasons why you provided for the ride being intense are not necessairily exclusionary attributes for a family coaster.

it was no more than 45 degrees on my model, and even then i should done the gradient a little slower to ease into the hill .

The launch is highly unlikely to be from a standing start as theres a whole bunch of track and scenes before hand, and the launch tunnel is so long the acceleration into that ~60mph mark can be a lot slower

Family coasters are usually given that name because of low height requirements and lack of inversions.

Every coaster is a family coaster at Disney World though, even the highest height requirement rides like Aerosmith sit below the average heights of most 7 year old children.
Disney/Vekoma have actually set the height limit for this ride lower than Vekoma's similar speed launch models

 

[mergatroid]

I'm trying to remember which attractions at Epcot had epic lines in the past as there's so much complaining about part of the queue? I've racked my brain trying to recall the great queue areas for things like Horizons and Journey that the imagineers originally created and can't remember any as being outstanding?

It's subjective whether people like something or not but until the whole thing's been experienced it seems a bit odd complaining about the first part of the queue area as though Epcot's famous for it's highly themed lines.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It's subjective whether people like something or not but until the whole thing's been experienced it seems a bit odd complaining about the first part of the queue area as though Epcot's famous for it's highly themed lines.

Besides comparing queue standards from 40 years ago vs today, EPCOT's Future World was designed with high capacity, continuously loading rides that did not necessarily require extensive queuing infrastructure or things to look at while standing in one spot.

People expect more from queues today because the standards have been raised, and also because this ride cost half a billion to build.

 

[mergatroid]

Besides comparing queue standards from 40 years ago vs today, EPCOT's Future World was designed with high capacity, continuously loading rides that did not necessarily require extensive queuing infrastructure or things to look at while standing in one spot.

When we first visited Epcot the year it opened many of the queues were well over 60 minutes each. It was summer but even so there was a lot of queuing. As for different standards from 40 years ago I noticed this trip that 80% of people queuing nowadays are playing on their phones. It was actually discussed in our party as it felt such a shame that after the effort of theming lines to varying levels, so many completely ignored that preferring to play on their phones. Some where even streaming tv or films without earphones polluting the queue with the audio of what they were watching or listening to. I don't think Disney should scale down their queues as there's still old timer's like me who appreciate it but a huge number don't, so scaling up the queues for this generation seems a bit pointless too.

 

[CntrlFlPete]

looks like time is getting closer -- mobile shrubberies all about

 

[Casper Gutman]

I'm trying to remember which attractions at Epcot had epic lines in the past as there's so much complaining about part of the queue? I've racked my brain trying to recall the great queue areas for things like Horizons and Journey that the imagineers originally created and can't remember any as being outstanding?

It's subjective whether people like something or not but until the whole thing's been experienced it seems a bit odd complaining about the first part of the queue area as though Epcot's famous for it's highly themed lines.

How many of those old EPCOT rides were 3 minute attractions with no AAs?

As was pointed out, you may have seen 60 minute waits, but those were exceptional and the lines moved lightning fast compared to modern lines. Between the lower capacity and assorted line-skipping systems, modern lines crawl - if they move at all.

Even on their phones, people notice well-themed environments. And the snails pace of modern lines means that guests have a chance to admire a well-themed environment AND read a book or two before the line advances.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

How many of those old EPCOT rides were 3 minute attractions with no AAs?

As was pointed out, you may have seen 60 minute waits, but those were exceptional and the lines moved lightning fast compared to modern lines. Between the lower capacity and assorted line-skipping systems, modern lines crawl - if they move at all.

Even on their phones, people notice well-themed environments. And the snails pace of modern lines means that guests have a chance to admire a well-themed environment AND read a book or two before the line advances.

You certainly never got off those classic attractions feeling shortchanged. They were ambitious, well themed, lengthy, and wonderfully executed.

 

[GladToBeHear]

How many of those old EPCOT rides were 3 minute attractions with no AAs?

As was pointed out, you may have seen 60 minute waits, but those were exceptional and the lines moved lightning fast compared to modern lines. Between the lower capacity and assorted line-skipping systems, modern lines crawl - if they move at all.

Even on their phones, people notice well-themed environments. And the snails pace of modern lines means that guests have a chance to admire a well-themed environment AND read a book or two before the line advances.

This. Immersive queues weren't needed back in the day because all the lines moved. One of the reasons we dropped what we were doing and ran down to WDW in 2020 to mask up in the August heat was to experience all the attractions with standby-only lines again. It was glorious.