EPCOT Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

The Empress Lilly

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There are two kinds of Epcot fans. Those who can't let go of an Epcot long dead, and those who not only have, but are looking forward to a rejuvenated Epcot with fresh IPs and thrill rides, and washing it all down with a quick Drink Around The World.
2030: There are two kinds of Magic Kingdom fans. Those who can let go of a Magic Flags long dead, and those who not only have, but are looking forward to a rejuvenated Magic Flags with fresh casino offerings and strip joints, and washing it all down with a quick drink around Game Street Slot Machines, Jungle Joe's Poledancing Cruise, and the Haunted Hooters.
 

mightynine

Well-Known Member
~ There are two kinds of Epcot fans. Those who can't let go of an Epcot long dead, and those who not only have, but are looking forward to a rejuvenated Epcot with fresh IPs and thrill rides, and washing it all down with a quick Drink Around The World.

Yeah, who needs a theme in a theme park? As long as I can overpay for a beer and use the term intellectual property like I'm the middle manager!
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
2030: There are two kinds of Magic Kingdom fans. Those who can let go of a Magic Flags long dead, and those who not only have, but are looking forward to a rejuvenated Magic Flags with fresh casino offerings and strip joints, and washing it all down with a quick drink around Game Street Slot Machines, Jungle Joe's Poledancing Cruise, and the Haunted Hooters.

Query: Will the hooters themselves be haunted? Kind of a freaky concept.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
No, I'm not okay. A gang of barbarians ravaged my little heaven and left it Toontown McDrunkyville.


~ There are two kinds of WDW fans. Those who knew EPCOT Center, and those who don't. ~

I guess you're dropping little clues. The sheer number of reveals here is amazing. I didn't know anyone else knew about the Conan the Barbarian drop ride going into Germany (Schwarzenegger is Austrian which kind of has a general German feel, pretty good imagineering I must admit). I designed the "To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women." t-shirt. Also, ye olde WoL pavilion is now going to be an exciting Guardians extension featuring Ravagers in a movie about how tough hormones make life in middle school. Toontown going into Communicore and the first all liquor Mickey Ds next to the Starbucks. Pick me up in the morning, take me down in the evening. A little bit of liquid genius I say. Various religious leaders designing heaven for the expansion pad between Germany and Italy. Church attendance has been dropping, so a little tourism can't hurt. You're dropping bombs left and right. I think Tomorrow's Child will play in a audio loop for 15 minutes in FW every day, satisfying lovers of old EPCOT the world over whilst everyone else is immersed in these new immersive worlds of immersive fantasy. Total immersion I say.
 

sedati

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I knew Epcot Center and absolutely loved it.

But...

I just can't deny that those I traveled with, along with friends and neighbors I spoke to at the time all found that park more of a chore than a joy. Our trips were at the same time, every 2 or 3 years during the eighties. First trip the lines were way out the door. Imagination started by the Land. Next trip, all the lines were comfortably indoors. By the next it was all walk-ons (except for Body Wars and Maelstrom.)
Somehow, all the rides at the older park still maintained their long lines (and still do to this day.) For such a massive and massively over-budget project I can't see (despite my personal feelings) this being a good return on investment. Ideals should be clung to, but things will have to be done differently.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I just hope that they do something interesting with the building. I've disagreed with people on here about some of the other Future World buildings. For me personally, I didn't like the look of Horizons or World of Motion, past or present. But they are interesting buildings and not unthemed warehouses. If this is at least a Xandarian aesthetic or other futuristic/unique aesthetic than it's on par with all of the other sightline issues throughout Epcot.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Speaking of re-branding. I was downloading my Photopass pictures. Below the bonus pics they send. I usually love them for my desktop wallpaper set.

This time however none of the EPCOT pictures were of EPCOT. Not a single one. :cry: They've given up on this park.

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Um... I think all of those are in Epcot.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Unless I'm mistaken, all the photos you showed were shot IN Epcot...



~ There are two kinds of Epcot fans. Those who can't let go of an Epcot long dead, and those who not only have, but are looking forward to a rejuvenated Epcot with fresh IPs and thrill rides, and washing it all down with a quick Drink Around The World.
Letting go of EPCOT Center would be a lot easier if they didn’t leave its desiccated corpse lying around and stopped trying to sell us chunks of it.

And no, in terms of Future World, a single completely out-of-place IP ride is not a rejuvenation. But hey, I guess with enough money guests can get so drunk the park’s massive problems aren’t obvious. Wait... I think I just figured out Epcot’s new guiding philosophy!
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
I knew Epcot Center and absolutely loved it.

But...

I just can't deny that those I traveled with, along with friends and neighbors I spoke to at the time all found that park more of a chore than a joy. Our trips were at the same time, every 2 or 3 years during the eighties. First trip the lines were way out the door. Imagination started by the Land. Next trip, all the lines were comfortably indoors. By the next it was all walk-ons (except for Body Wars and Maelstrom.)
Somehow, all the rides at the older park still maintained their long lines (and still do to this day.) For such a massive and massively over-budget project I can't see (despite my personal feelings) this being a good return on investment. Ideals should be clung to, but things will have to be done differently.

Those who pine after the original EPCOT will say that Disney should have continually updated the attractions to keep them popular and relevant, but, as you point out, the crowds began to decrease even when the park was less than a decade old.
 

sedati

Well-Known Member
I just hope that they do something interesting with the building. I've disagreed with people on here about some of the other Future World buildings. For me personally, I didn't like the look of Horizons or World of Motion, past or present. But they are interesting buildings and not unthemed warehouses. If this is at least a Xandarian aesthetic or other futuristic/unique aesthetic than it's on par with all of the other sightline issues throughout Epcot.
Horizons looked great from a distance. The point of entry was extremely basic and not anything beyond what was common for any complex of its day.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Those who pine after the original EPCOT will say that Disney should have continually updated the attractions to keep them popular and relevant, but, as you point out, the crowds began to decrease even when the park was less than a decade old.

In case you didn’t know.... technology has been accelerating faster in the last 30 years than any point in the history of the world. So yes, 1979 tech was feeling dated by the late eighties. Some perspective... the space shuttle had not even flown when Epcot was designed... the Personal computers were still a future idea...computer graphics could barely draw geometric shapes.

This has been the long term problem with every Disney project that has tried to cover the future. The future comes and you can’t keep showing the same old show forever. Disneyland, magic kingdom, Epcot.... all have faced this curse. Covering the near future requires more refreshes then covering history or fantasy.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Um... I think all of those are in Epcot.
Certainly. But in EPCOT, not of EPCOT.

I was laying a wreath at the LaL memorial. This group of about twenty Brazilians came running to me, sweating from exitement. They took a gazillion pictures of my extremely attractive calf muscles, the prettiest they had ever seen - and that includes Neymar's! All within EPCOT. But are they pictures about EPCOT?
 
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LittleBuford

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This has been the long term problem with every Disney project that has tried to cover the future. The future comes and you can’t keep showing the same old show forever.

A decade is not forever. The need for a refresh cannot by itself decimate a popular attraction's attendance in such a short time frame.

Before you start being rude again, let me stress that this is just my opinion -- I have no way of proving its validity, and I'm well aware of that.
 
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Movielover

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I was laying a wreath at the LaL memorial. This group of about twenty Brazilians came running to me, sweating from exitement. They took a gazillion pictures of my extremely attractive calf muscles, the prettiest they had ever seen and that includes Neymar's. All within EPCOT. But are they pictures about EPCOT?

Lets see, A group of people from an international location converging on a place that honors the past while promising the future. They then proceeded to show an interest in the scientific world, in this case of the human body, all while appreciating the "festive" floral that you had temporary placed over the area...

Kinda sums up EPCOT Center if you ask me!
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
That's a bit generous for the past and for the other parks.

In the MK, there are many places, while in one land, you can see into or see the buildings of another land. Especially if you do things like get up high on the log flume or the tree house.

In DHS, sight lines are meaningless (and a joke) when you paint all the boxes pink and call them studios. Not to mention seeing backstage from ToT.

In DAK, the big box for Pandora is a huge eyesore when you're driving in. But no one seems to remember that when they post pictures of GotG's big box from the Epcot parking lot.

And has been mentioned many, many times in this thread... as much as FW was built 'to be seen' with all its pretty architecture...

1. You're still seeing a bunch of buildings outside of WS which are not at all related to national pavilions and the WS.​
2. Test Track's "pretty building" is just a big ol' silver cylinder. It's hideous (IMO). From WS it looks no different than a big silver box.​
3. The horse is out of the barn: the big ol' tent between UK and Canada and the Soarin' show building have 'ruined' the sightlines of Epcot long ago.​

Also, let's not forget that it's relatively easy to make all the sight lines pretty when you first build a new park and are taking that into account. Not so easy when you're a victim of your own success and have to put in new, giant show buildings... where do they go? The MK has that issue with TRON Cycle now.

You forget the parks icon was intended to be the highest structure in the immediate vicinity.

This is a page one mistake. On so many levels. Imho.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
So would that make TOT and Expedition Everest both mistakes since they are both taller than their park icons are/were?
If the Tower Of Terror was just slightly to the right of the Graumanns Chinese Theater, And Everest was where Flights Of Wonder is, then yes! It would be a mistake to add a competing structure within the sightline of the central focus...
 

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