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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
It would never happen, but you know what would be cool? A coaster attraction in EPCOT that explains how a launch coaster works and the science behind it. From the electricity needed for the launch to the computer systems needed to operate the ride. Then at the end you hop on and ride.

I guess that might draw some yawns from some guests, though.
You could even show the potential and kinetic energy of the cars at different points on the track.
 

The_Jobu

Well-Known Member
It would never happen, but you know what would be cool? A coaster attraction in EPCOT that explains how a launch coaster works and the science behind it. From the electricity needed for the launch to the computer systems needed to operate the ride. Then at the end you hop on and ride.

I guess that might draw some yawns from some guests, though.

That would be HYPE.

I'd vote for it.
 

Frank the Tank

Active Member
I wouldn't call it Lazy. I would call it risk management. When you are smaller and newer you take more risk, you have less to lose and more to gain. Once you get to the size Disney is you don't push the envelope as much, you have more to lose and less to gain. Using proven IP's like Star Wars and Gardians minimizes risk. I wish they would risk more but gone are those days.

There's that, although it's also a reflection of the amount of extremely valuable IP that has been amassed by Disney since the 1980s (whether organically generated internally or acquired externally. Whether certain rides fit into the overall theme of a park/area is a valid debate. However, it's just completely unreasonable to think that Disney, at this point in time, isn't going to leverage its IP for new attractions of any consequence. The fact that there were IP-free rides developed in 1970s/80s is irrelevant in today's world (for better or worse) because the IP that Disney has today is so much more valuable than what it had when EPCOT was being originally built. If Disney had owned Star Wars and Marvel back in the 1980s, I have a hard time believing that wouldn't have been using that IP extensively at that time. IP-free rides were created in an era when Disney didn't have the IP that it was today, so we have to recognize that it's a completely different standard now.
 

Mattsteveal

New Member
Was hoping to read some speculation on what the ride may entail than pages and pages of the same arguments over and over.

Maybe a gotg ride specifics thread need to be started...

For me I always thought epcot fw was perfect place for marvel characters especially if it was themed as stark expo, but I guess the universal contract puts a stop on that. I'm excited to see what they do with the ride system and story. Can understand the disappointment some people have of the park losing its original identity, but unfortunately investment has been lacking for the pavilions for years. From a marketing standpoint using current popular IP's make the most business sense
 

Kamikaze

Well-Known Member
Agreed! TRON would be a better fit and based on original, Disney IP.

Much crappier Disney IP, honestly. Neither Tron movie did well at the box office. Its a much riskier move to base a ride on it than even Avatar. Whereas both Guardians movies were huge hits and well received. RT ratings - Tron 2 - 51%. GotG1 - 91%, GotG2 - 81%. If you're factoring risk in, its much less risky to put the ride in MK since it can absorb such a thing failing (see: SGE) than Epcot can, especially as they rebuild it.

Whether or you like it or not, Disney owns Marvel. These are both Disney IPs.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
Was hoping to read some speculation on what the ride may entail than pages and pages of the same arguments over and over.

Maybe a gotg ride specifics thread need to be started...

For me I always thought epcot fw was perfect place for marvel characters especially if it was themed as stark expo, but I guess the universal contract puts a stop on that. I'm excited to see what they do with the ride system and story. Can understand the disappointment some people have of the park losing its original identity, but unfortunately investment has been lacking for the pavilions for years. From a marketing standpoint using current popular IP's make the most business sense
Stark Expo would've been a cool replacement for WoL since GotG is coming but I'm glad the contract exists. It makes it so Disney puts real effort into what they can use from Marvel and not go cheap in WDW like Mission Breakout. Plus we keep Spider-Man at Universal and that always rumored Avengers ride from them :)
 

TeriofTerror

Well-Known Member
Like with every D23 we get the obligatory newbie with strange join dates and sporadic low post counts that attacks anyone who's not down with praising the additions.

These are big time additions. Very happy to see the investment. Not too happy with the theming, which seems more like, "let's see how we can cram in some IPs and make it vaguely cohesive" instead of, "how do we make this park special again."

EPCOT is my favorite park. We already have a dumb park for people who don't want to think too much, but who need constant visual stimulation and noise. We have a park for IP's and kids. It's called Magic Kingdom.

I'm giving it a chance, but the theme sucks for FW.
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed; I'm still working to get caught up:
Was it just me, or did they sound extremely defensive when discussing changing/adding IPs to attractions?
"Mission Breakout has more Fastpasses issued than any other attraction in DCA!"
"Frozen Ever After is the most popular attraction in Epcot!"
It was as though they're actively trying to convince us that they know what they're doing. o_O
 

insert name here

Well-Known Member
It would never happen, but you know what would be cool? A coaster attraction in EPCOT that explains how a launch coaster works and the science behind it. From the electricity needed for the launch to the computer systems needed to operate the ride. Then at the end you hop on and ride.

I guess that might draw some yawns from some guests, though.
This idea sort of gives me Sum of All Thrills vibe, which was probably the best Innoventions attraction in its later years.
 

Maeryk

Well-Known Member
Much crappier Disney IP, honestly. Neither Tron movie did well at the box office. Its a much riskier move to base a ride on it than even Avatar. Whereas both Guardians movies were huge hits and well received. RT ratings - Tron 2 - 51%. GotG1 - 91%, GotG2 - 81%. If you're factoring risk in, its much less risky to put the ride in MK since it can absorb such a thing failing (see: SGE) than Epcot can, especially as they rebuild it.

Whether or you like it or not, Disney owns Marvel. These are both Disney IPs.

The beauty of the Tron coaster concept, is it can be rethemed down the road. Reskin the ride vehicle, and change up the displays (most of it is electronic screens) and you can make it whatever you want.
 

The_Jobu

Well-Known Member
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed; I'm still working to get caught up:
Was it just me, or did they sound extremely defensive when discussing changing/adding IPs to attractions?
"Mission Breakout has more Fastpasses issued than any other attraction in DCA!"
"Frozen Ever After is the most popular attraction in Epcot!"
It was as though they're actively trying to convince us that they know what they're doing. o_O

They gotta try and convince someone that they know what they're doing... But I think they'd settle for anyone.
 

Maeryk

Well-Known Member
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed; I'm still working to get caught up:
Was it just me, or did they sound extremely defensive when discussing changing/adding IPs to attractions?
"Mission Breakout has more Fastpasses issued than any other attraction in DCA!"
"Frozen Ever After is the most popular attraction in Epcot!"
It was as though they're actively trying to convince us that they know what they're doing. o_O

Say what you will about Frozen Ever Maelstrom.. but there was never a line for maelstrom.. there was barely a queue. Now it's SRO all day long. SO clearly they hit it with a significant segment of the population. And I don't miss Abba working oil rigs, to be completely honest.

Seas was just about dead till they did the Nemo thing.. and it's worth a ride once per visit.

The attendance at the property has exponentially increased since Epcot opened. They need attractions that hold more people, and keep more people busy. We want these changes to the parks that cost mucho dinero, but we don't seem to want the increased traffic to support them. You can't have it both ways. As long as the queue is interesting, I might actually stand in it for a while.
 

Dapper Dan

Well-Known Member
Please forgive me if this has already been discussed; I'm still working to get caught up:
Was it just me, or did they sound extremely defensive when discussing changing/adding IPs to attractions?
"Mission Breakout has more Fastpasses issued than any other attraction in DCA!"
"Frozen Ever After is the most popular attraction in Epcot!"
It was as though they're actively trying to convince us that they know what they're doing. o_O
Like nobody knows brand new attractions tend to have long lines.
 

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