HauntedMansionFLA
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Loved this quote in the article.
The “Guardians of the Galaxy”-inspired coaster is part of our ongoing work to transform Epcot into a place that’s more family, more relevant, more timeless and more Disney. “
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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot
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The “Guardians of the Galaxy”-inspired coaster is part of our ongoing work to transform Epcot into a place that’s more family, more relevant, more timeless and more Disney. “
discos
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If Guardians is gonna be a launch coaster like its been rumoured to be but then incorporate elements like what Gringotts offers, I could totally be on board for that!For the record, Gringotts doesn’t have a super long track (2000’), but it clocks in at around 4.5 minutes which is impressive for an indoor coaster. I wonder how Guardians will measure up.
Either way, I’d still rather have a 35 minute traveling theater.
TinkerBelle8878
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This Guardians coaster into Epcot bothers me for 2 reasons: 1) It doesn't fit any theme even remotely. At least Nemo fits into Seas and 3 Caballeros fits into Mexico if needed to be shoehorned in. I never saw the need but at least on some level its not a complete stretch. This coaster or any ride themed to Guardians should be put it in DHS. Or just retheme RnR since I'm sure Aerosmith will be deemed passe soon by Disney. 2) I never liked roller coasters as a kid or now and Epcot was always my favorite park because it was all these cool non coaster rides. Given this was the 'good Epcot' before the current mess but still. Not everyone needs or wants coasters. There's Mission Space to make people sick. And whatever ride based on Ratatoille going to France. Seems enough to me.
It seems like there's no more ingenuity anymore. Just let's shove in our current hot IP that wasn't actually even ours until a few years ago. I don't even need a crystal ball to figure that the next IP will be Black Panther, if allowed by the whole Marvel Orlando deal, into AK. Because they can't actually do a Marvel Park.
I'm sure I'm not the first or last to say this about Epcot. But why even have those old themes anymore? Epcot ceases to be what it was. DHS too. Just combine the two into two halves of a bigger park and call it the Wonderful Worlds of What We Bought.
It seems like there's no more ingenuity anymore. Just let's shove in our current hot IP that wasn't actually even ours until a few years ago. I don't even need a crystal ball to figure that the next IP will be Black Panther, if allowed by the whole Marvel Orlando deal, into AK. Because they can't actually do a Marvel Park.
I'm sure I'm not the first or last to say this about Epcot. But why even have those old themes anymore? Epcot ceases to be what it was. DHS too. Just combine the two into two halves of a bigger park and call it the Wonderful Worlds of What We Bought.
Tavernacle12
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That quote terrified me. Also, Guardians is not really any of those things. It's technically Disney, it's not family oriented, it won't be relevant with any more longevity than Ellen was, and it'll be just as dated since the team will likely be altered as the actors go to work in other films and Disney refuses to pay them the money they'd need to to keep them in GOTG.
I also wonder if, like, maybe Disney could get more rides built if they stopped trying to revolutionize or one up everything. Though I guess when they don't try we wind up with Navi River Journey for a seemingly equally costly price. Would it kill them to do an old school dark ride again? I'm talking Pinocchio's Daring Journey technology.
Notes from Neverland
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A coaster being one of the longest doesn't really mean much. That's an extremely subjective PR statement that sounds good, but doesn't really mean much. The new Epcot coaster could be top-5 or top-10 and still be "one of the longest" indoor coasters.
RSoxNo1
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That was used at the D23 Expo in California when the attraction / Future World overhaul was announced. It's also not far off from previous quotes Iger has used to describe among other things, Shanghai.
The one that really rubs me the wrong way is this one (Also said at 2017 D23 Expo):
"As we build upon its core mission of optimism and hope to inspire the world, the real will become fantastic and the fantastic will become real—in whole new ways at Epcot."
This goes against something that Tony Baxter said on the Season Pass podcast where he was describing how an IP like Indiana Jones could be placed in any park as long as the story treatment was done correctly. As part of that explanation he said that at the Magic Kingdom, fantasy becomes real and EPCOT real becomes fantasy. That quote above makes no attempt to blur those lines. If there was ever any doubt, Disney confirmed it at the 2017 D23 Expo, EPCOT is dead.
RSoxNo1
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The educational component of Nemo in and around the exhibits makes some sense, as does Turtle Talk to a lesser extent. The attraction however offers no tie back to the actual ocean. It's similar to Frozen in Norway where the only thing tying it to the Pavilion is the setting.
Disney has explicitly stated that there is an Epcot tie for Peter Quill and it's one that myself and others suggested before the attraction was official announced. The issue I will have is that it needs to be more than just lip service.
Having said that, I agree with the general sentiment of your post. Prioritizing getting the latest and greatest IP into the park has in many cases tossed thematic integrity out the window.
180º
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We realize. There’s a discussion at the top of this page about how many feet long the longest enclosed coaster tracks are. I specifically pointed out Gringotts as an example of a coaster whose track length doesn’t necessarily correspond to its duration.
Kram Sacul
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- In the Parks
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ToTBellHop
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It won’t be particularly intense. As many family members as ride Big Thunder can ride this.To make Epcot more family, we're gonna add a roller coaster that a bunch of the family might not be able to go on or want to go on
Like, I don't care about the ride being added, but....... really
Notes from Neverland
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I'd personally say it'd be Mission Space's orange mission.
larryz
I'm Just A Tourist!
It fits the theme of "a place that’s more family, more relevant, more timeless and more Disney."
There's nothing "intense" about Test Track that isn't replicated in everyday driving (except that there's no steering wheel).
trainplane3
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I mean, it's not everyday that Tron-ified Optimus Prime comes out of nowhere and tries to murder you in a tunnel.
montyz81
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I know this sounds crazy since Disney created Epcot, but it really feels like they are saying "less Epcot Center", which is funny since what we have now is so far from Epcot Center. At the end of the day, you can put anything you want in Epcot with an IP attached to it and claim it is "More family oriented, more relevant, more Disney".
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