mergatroid
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Wow I'm surprised, but pleased as well. Got to respect your honesty there. What were the main plus points and to be fair to all, what parts (if any) that let it down or disappointed you?
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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot
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vikescaper
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I’m excited that I get to go in this twice today for my birthday!
Surely not.
mergatroid
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Many happy returns and enjoy.
Disstevefan1
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So if what the folks are reporting are not considered failures, what are we calling the issue (for folks who repeatedly ride) notice as projections not appearing?
Normal “variants” of the ride experience?
I was being sarcastic.
Disstevefan1
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Ya got meI was being sarcastic.
!Sorry about that.
I thought you were one of those “Disney is perfect and can do no wrong” folks
You should know me better !Ya got me
Sorry about that.
I thought you were one of those “Disney is perfect and can do no wrong” folks
Tom Morrow
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At some point I remember seeing a video or blog post that explained that the reason Disney kept the Universe of Energy building, despite gutting it completely, was that as long as two walls remain up, it counts as a refurbishment and not a new project and this gives them tax breaks or a lowered cost for some reason. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and can you find the post or video explaining this?
MagicHappens1971
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It’s somewhere in the thousands of pages of this thread. I don’t think that was really the sole reason, more so that it was already there and is serving as queue & preshow space and didn’t really hinder what the final product was. The preshow/queue areas are very blah (except the last one) but I don’t think that’s related
Movielover
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Of course not, and don't call me Shirley.
Casper Gutman
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Looking at the new Iron Man ride in Paris, it struck me again just how weirdly Disney is handling the "non-canon" nature of their Marvel attractions.
When the company announced Marvel attractions would be non-canon, it made perfect sense. That would let the parks tell fun little stories with beloved characters that were ideally suited to whatever ride system was being used. Being non-canon freed the tightly woven overarching MCU from having to acknowledge these little side stories. Mission: Breakout was exactly the kind of story I expected, a perfect non-canon superhero one-shot.
Disney's other Marvel rides, however, take that "non-canon" license in a much odder direction, telling stories that not only don't fit in the MCU canon but that actively rip huge chunks of it to shreds. Even more strangely, they glibly discard key emotional throughlines and character development - you know, the sort of thing at which Marvel is generally really good.
I've already kvetched about Cosmic Rewind, but the Paris ride is almost as strange. It stars Iron Man and Captain Marvel. Fine. Those characters have no meaningful connection, but that doesn't really matter - they can both fly through space, which is what the ride needs. But if we remember the MCU at all, the combo becomes really offputting. When Captain Marvel first meets the Avengers, Tony is emotionally and physically shattered. He can't even help the other heroes finish off Thanos on his farm. He's completely done as a superhero - which is why his eventual return years later is such a meaningful sacrifice, the payoff to a character arc stretching over a decade. Captain Marvel and Iron Man galivanting through space just chucks that aside.
Which, again - non-canon. Multiverse. If the stories helped the rides, it would make sense. But neither the time-travel story for Rewind (which is almost entirely immaterial to the ride experience) or Iron Man actually adds anything at all to the attraction. It also stands in stark contrast to the treatment of Star Wars, where maintaining meticulous canon is so important we get Hondo as the owner of the Falcon instead of the character guests would much prefer, Han (or at least Lando). Added to the overwhelming awfulness of the Avengers Campus lands, it just contributes to the inexplicable sense that despite the fact that by almost any measure it is the most successful media franchise in history, Disney just doesn't respect Marvel very much. I really can't understand that. Are key executives envious of Feige's incredible success?
When the company announced Marvel attractions would be non-canon, it made perfect sense. That would let the parks tell fun little stories with beloved characters that were ideally suited to whatever ride system was being used. Being non-canon freed the tightly woven overarching MCU from having to acknowledge these little side stories. Mission: Breakout was exactly the kind of story I expected, a perfect non-canon superhero one-shot.
Disney's other Marvel rides, however, take that "non-canon" license in a much odder direction, telling stories that not only don't fit in the MCU canon but that actively rip huge chunks of it to shreds. Even more strangely, they glibly discard key emotional throughlines and character development - you know, the sort of thing at which Marvel is generally really good.
I've already kvetched about Cosmic Rewind, but the Paris ride is almost as strange. It stars Iron Man and Captain Marvel. Fine. Those characters have no meaningful connection, but that doesn't really matter - they can both fly through space, which is what the ride needs. But if we remember the MCU at all, the combo becomes really offputting. When Captain Marvel first meets the Avengers, Tony is emotionally and physically shattered. He can't even help the other heroes finish off Thanos on his farm. He's completely done as a superhero - which is why his eventual return years later is such a meaningful sacrifice, the payoff to a character arc stretching over a decade. Captain Marvel and Iron Man galivanting through space just chucks that aside.
Which, again - non-canon. Multiverse. If the stories helped the rides, it would make sense. But neither the time-travel story for Rewind (which is almost entirely immaterial to the ride experience) or Iron Man actually adds anything at all to the attraction. It also stands in stark contrast to the treatment of Star Wars, where maintaining meticulous canon is so important we get Hondo as the owner of the Falcon instead of the character guests would much prefer, Han (or at least Lando). Added to the overwhelming awfulness of the Avengers Campus lands, it just contributes to the inexplicable sense that despite the fact that by almost any measure it is the most successful media franchise in history, Disney just doesn't respect Marvel very much. I really can't understand that. Are key executives envious of Feige's incredible success?
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FigmentFan82
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They def did that with little mermaid in MK - left two wall from 20k show building
gerarar
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Cross-posting from the VQ thread.
Happy 2 months to CR! Here are all the drops since opening. We are on Day 61. Rat went to standby after 101 days.
I go into more details into this post about the trends and where we are currently in relation to VQ -> standby.
Happy 2 months to CR! Here are all the drops since opening. We are on Day 61. Rat went to standby after 101 days.
I go into more details into this post about the trends and where we are currently in relation to VQ -> standby.
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EricsBiscuit
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I went on yesterday and they made a big ops improvement. In the final pre show, they now have a CM keeping people from rushing all the way towards the doors. Previously, if you had even a few people who had been on it before and decided to go towards the doors, it created massive stampedes that ruined the pre show. Now, everyone stays in place. Much better experience.
mergatroid
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Interesting watch and conclusion, comparing it to Hagrids courtesy of VincentVision
bhg469
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After a few times riding guardians now, I have to give the edge to Hagrids. I think that mummy may tie guardians IMO
UNCgolf
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I haven't been on Guardians, but I was wondering about this. Guardians doesn't look as good as Revenge of the Mummy in videos to me.
I know that doesn't capture the physical aspect, but this is discussing story coasters, and the story/theming is the most important part for me.
trainplane3
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GotG is a ton of fun and turning bit of the coaster is really cool with the smooth transitions. But honestly...I may like Mummy more. It isn't as long or even thrilling but there's something about it that felt great. Is it the screens on GotG that I don't care for? Mummy has a bunch of flats you fly through though and those are less interesting. I'm just not sure.
I'm curious how the refurb/rebuild of Mummy goes. If they improve the effects along with the new track then I might have a solid reason.
mergatroid
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I love the mummy too but always find it disappointingly short. It's probably because they were limited by the size of the building but if the second half of it was longer, it would be so much stronger. I'm hoping for some improvements too, often the first AA wasn't working in recent years. It didn't ruin the ride it not working as there's so much good stuff in there besides, it would be nice to have it back regularly though.