Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

[WildcatDen]

All of this chatter or talk from brainstorming sessions? It's easily 5-10 years out.

Serpico has not given me cause to doubt yet, but I was led to believe a portion of this may be done prior to the Magic Kingdom 50th with some visual changes beginning as soon as this calendar year???

 

[Phicinfan]

Serpico has not given me cause to doubt yet, but I was led to believe a portion of this may be done prior to the Magic Kingdom 50th with some visual changes beginning as soon as this calendar year???

actually Martin has already stated that all the Epcot plans he has seen are due for completion by the 50th anniversary..so I too wonder what info photodave has.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

OK, so if it's opening before 2021, construction would have to start within 18 months.

Well FY2018 starts October 1, 2017. They could announce it at the next D23, and then start construction after in the fall. Would be done by fall 2020 (3 years later, before the 50th).

 

[WildcatDen]

I had heard April would be quite the achievement at this point.

Have you heard an "All or None" for the gran opening? I am getting conflicting stories, but the last was that they plan to open "What they can" in April. . .

 

[ToTBellHop]

Have you heard an "All or None" for the gran opening? I am getting conflicting stories, but the last was that they plan to open "What they can" in April. . .

Haven't heard. Shouldn't there be lessons learned from the roll out of NFL and DAK at nite?

 

[WildcatDen]

actually Martin has already stated that all the Epcot plans he has seen are due for completion by the 50th anniversary..so I too wonder what info photodave has.

I have not heard that it will 'ALL' be done by 2021 but a headliner with some of the other additions @marni1971 mentioned. I have gotten a feeling that other 'parts' may extend to 2023?

 

[Tim Lohr]

The ROI on an attraction associated with a popular IP increases attendance and merchandise sales far beyond what an original park originated IP does. Do you want to spend $265 million on Hogwarts or No Name Castle?

I'm not talking about Universal whose IoA park wasn't drawing people, Uni adding Harry Potter is like AK adding Avatar, both places needed a big draw, but Epcot has always been a big draw, it's generally in the top 5 of theme park attendance in the world even now in it's current state... and no offence by your "by the numbers" rational is the root of the problem I'm talking about, I think the need more artists and less accountants planning their rides

And it's not like they incapable of doing it either, the lobby of the new Art of Animation hotel looks very modern and Epcot-esque to me

And Energy is such a simple theme, all energy come from some type of atomic reaction, so all they would need for a ride is some combination of the concept from to old Disneyland "Adventure Through Inner Space", shrinking people down the size of an atom, and add in some Disneyland Paris roller coaster tech like their version Space Mt, Rock n' Roller-coaster, and/or the Crush-coaster... so basically a high speed thrill ride through images from electron microscopes would do the trick...

and they could simulate the same kinds of imagery if they hired some one like this artist Bill Munro, who makes sculptures with fiber optic lights

so my point is... it took me all of 20 minutes to come up with stuff that fits the the theme of Epcot's Future World and the Energy pavilion... this ain't that hard if you bother to try

 

[WildcatDen]

Haven't heard. Shouldn't there be lessons learned from the roll out of NFL and DAK at nite?

You would think. Sorry or the thread drift. Trying to wrap my hands around the Gamora meet and greet. . .

 

[marni1971]

I have not heard that it will 'ALL' be done by 2021 but a headliner with some of the other additions @marni1971 mentioned. I have gotten a feeling that other 'parts' may extend to 2023?

What I know of should be done by the end of 2021 all being well.

There's more after that's not even blue sky.

 

[WildcatDen]

What I know of should be done by the end of 2021 all being well.

There's more after that's not even blue sky.

That explains the way it was delivered. Still, 2023 seems odd for a Blue Sky date?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

I'm not talking about Universal whose IoA park wasn't drawing people, Uni adding Harry Potter is like AK adding Avatar, both places needed a big draw, but Epcot has always been a big draw, it's generally in the top 5 of theme park attendance in the world even now in it's current state... and no offence by your "by the numbers" rational is the root of the problem I'm talking about, I think the need more artists and less accountants planning their rides

And it's not like they incapable of doing it either, the lobby of the new Art of Animation hotel looks very modern and Epcot-esque to me

And Energy is such a simple theme, all energy come from some type of atomic reaction, so all they would need for a ride is some combination of the concept from to old Disneyland "Adventure Through Inner Space", shrinking people down the size of an atom, and add in some Disneyland Paris roller coaster tech like their version Space Mt, Rock n' Roller-coaster, and/or the Crush-coaster... so basically a high speed thrill ride through images from electron microscopes would do the trick...

and they could simulate the same kinds of imagery if they hired some one like this artist Bill Munro, who makes sculptures with fiber optic lights

so my point is... it took me all of 20 minutes to come up with stuff that fits the the theme of Epcot's Future World and the Energy pavilion... this ain't that hard if you bother to try

No one said they couldn't do it. Even spectacularly. Not one person is going to book a flight from Chicago for a $5000 vacation for...that. And how much merchandise is it going to sell? Can they make a "Butterbeer" type $6 beverage?

 

[Mike S]

Haven't heard. Shouldn't there be lessons learned from the roll out of NFL and DAK at nite?

Nope. Disney never learns from their mistakes. The insane popularity of Soarin' & TSMM compared to their capacities (which have been corrected now) should've been enough in itself to put the brakes on Frozen Ever After yet here we are. They could've always used the expansion pad if they were set on the Norway Pavilion but they just had to build that M&G which is pretty much empty with everyone more interested in the ride.

Edit: let me also add how TSMM was built in Tokyo and Soarin' in Shanghai with no lessons learned.

 

[marni1971]

That explains the way it was delivered. Still, 2023 seems odd for a Blue Sky date?

2023?

 

[WildcatDen]

That was what was what was put out, but I am thinking it was part of what you have already talked about. Serpico makes speaking in parables some kind or art form. . . Nothing is ever written, just verbal and it seems to circle and repeat, with slight variations. The simple fact that a good deal of the info matches what others have said is what encourages me to believe? Still, the whole MK info is odd to me and I do not see them working two major additions in two separate areas at the same time. One maybe, but two????

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What I know of should be done by the end of 2021 all being well.

There's more after that's not even blue sky.

Nothing like striking while the iron is hot SMH. As an IP apologist, this makes zero strategic sense.

 

[Mike S]

Nothing like striking while the iron is hot SMH. As an IP apologist, this makes zero strategic sense.

Well if the ride opens in 2020 that's one year after Avengers Infinity War part 2 and the Guardians will appear in both parts I'm sure.

All things considered that's not too bad.

 

[Thanks phoenicians]

That was what was what was put out, but I am thinking it was part of what you have already talked about. Serpico makes speaking in parables some kind or art form. . . Nothing is ever written, just verbal and it seems to circle and repeat, with slight variations. The simple fact that a good deal of the info matches what others have said is what encourages me to believe? Still, the whole MK info is odd to me and I do not see them working two major additions in two separate areas at the same time. One maybe, but two????

I'm assuming they also want the one or two MK additions done by 2021 also?

 

[Fantasmicguy]

Nothing like striking while the iron is hot SMH. As an IP apologist, this makes zero strategic sense.

Isn't this like 4 years after the movie?

 

[PhotoDave219]

Serpico has not given me cause to doubt yet, but I was led to believe a portion of this may be done prior to the Magic Kingdom 50th with some visual changes beginning as soon as this calendar year???

Perhaps I misunderstood what my people meant or what Epcot plans were being referred to.

Suffice to say, I have little faith in construction schedules and timetables anymore. They can't get their act together with ROC, avatar is behind - moving at a glacial speed since it was announced - SWL really isn't moving yet, and TSL seems equally stalled.

That's four major projects that they can't seem to get their act together with. I just can't reasonably see Epcot getting the needed love with the way they're doing things right now.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Perhaps I misunderstood what my people meant or what Epcot plans were being referred to.

Suffice to say, I have little faith in construction schedules and timetables anymore. They can't get their act together with ROC, avatar is behind - moving at a glacial speed since it was announced - SWL really isn't moving yet, and TSL seems equally stalled.

That's four major projects that they can't seem to get their act together with. I just can't reasonably see Epcot getting the needed love with the way they're doing things right now.

How slow do glaciers move when suspended in the air?