Guardians of the Galaxy coming to Energy Pavilion at Epcot

[DinoInstitute]

I think it should be said (again, for the millionth time), that most of us who are against the IP invasion of Epcot are in no way desiring that Epcot return to its original concept or that WS should remain a museum and never have anything new.

People continue to regurgitate the same tired "Epcot purists" BS and the old "Disney glory days are gone" garbage. We just feel that there are so many possibilities that could be explored that dont require super heroes and cartoons EVERYWHERE. We feel that it would be more wise to BUILD something new and not just continue to overlay attractions. We ask for Disney to simply create and inspire rather than pander and accommodate.

I agree with you. The thing is, Disney can replicate the original glory in today's Epcot without making it EPCOT. They can put effort into fixing it to make it inspirational in a new way. They don't have to (and shouldn't) just bring back horizons or original imagination like it seems a bunch of people say.

I would really think it would be best if they just drop the Future World name altogether and rebrand it as Discovery World or Progressland or something like that. It's already like that in a way, but calling it Future gives it a title that Disney won't be able to live up to. Make the park a great celebration of discovery, both in a cultural and technological sense.

But I guess with a Disney touch to it if they really want to do that

 

[RobidaFlats]

calling it Future gives it a title that Disney won't be able to live up to.

I will ask yet again, why? Has the present caught up to the future of space colonization, undersea cities, miniaturized medical exploration and treatment? Those were concepts presented 30 years ago and we're still not there. Failure to update the presentation does not negate the possibility of looking to a future that won't be achieved in the next six months.

If your argument is merely that the current Disney Company is incapable of living up to it, then I withdraw my objection.

 

[DinoInstitute]

If your argument is merely that the current Disney Company is incapable of living up to it, then I withdraw my objection.

I guess it's more towards this. When I say they won't live up to the name of future, I don't mean it content wise, obviously they can create plenty of futuristic ideas. I mean making the park itself feel futuristic. In order to make it feel futuristic, things need to be updated a lot, as they start to get dated much quicker than attractions in other places. It's unrealistic to think Disney today would give the necessary upkeep IMO. But I'd love to be proved wrong.

 

[RobidaFlats]

I guess it's more towards this. When I say they won't live up to the name of future, I don't mean it content wise, obviously they can create plenty of futuristic ideas. I mean making the park itself feel futuristic. In order to make it feel futuristic, things need to be updated a lot, as they start to get dated much quicker than attractions in other places. It's unrealistic to think Disney today would give the necessary upkeep IMO. But I'd love to be proved wrong.

That is fair. Sadly, I have to agree with your assessment.

 

[Mike S]

I agree with you. The thing is, Disney can replicate the original glory in today's Epcot without making it EPCOT. They can put effort into fixing it to make it inspirational in a new way. They don't have to (and shouldn't) just bring back horizons or original imagination like it seems a bunch of people say.

I would really think it would be best if they just drop the Future World name altogether and rebrand it as Discovery World or Progressland or something like that. It's already like that in a way, but calling it Future gives it a title that Disney won't be able to live up to. Make the park a great celebration of discovery, both in a cultural and technological sense.

But I guess with a Disney touch to it if they really want to do that

The original presentation of Imagination is probably the one dark ride from EPCOT Center that was truly timeless and all it would have ever needed were updated effects and AAs over the years which @marni1971 has said was the plan at one point.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Not really far off from what Jim Hill said.

That's because he's quoting Jim Hill.

 

[rnese]

This reminded me of Chevy Chase flipping out in that one scene in Christmas Vacation where he finds out that he's been enrolled in the jelly of the month club instead of getting a Christmas bonus lol. Love it and completely agree.

"Hallelujah! Holy...Bring back Horizons! Where's the Tylenol?"

 

[rnese]

Maybe the reason Future World was outdated was because the future is looking to be more and more like the movie Idiocracy rather than the amazing things we once thought of. If that's the case the new direction fits right in

"I like money."

 

[DinoInstitute]

The original presentation of Imagination is probably the one dark ride from EPCOT Center that was truly timeless and all it would have ever needed were updated effects and AAs over the years which @marni1971 has said was the plan at one point.

My point was that the park shouldn't be looking backwards, while from what I've seen of it online the original Imagination looked fantastic, there's no reason they can't build something just as fantastic but today in the new park.

 

[danlb_2000]

The Internet killed the original innovations idea of showing off new and cool technology. It was one place you could see it all together. Now within 5 minutes of something being released its all over the Internet, so anything at Epcot would be dated before the attractions are even finished.

As to world show case anyone can go and visit the real country. I've never paid much attention to France, Germany, Norway or the US and UK as I've been to all off them and there is nothing in them I haven't seen in person. I know lots of people who feel the same way. It was probably different when people never used to travel much. Times change, always will always have, which to some is the problem....

Yes, but if you want this information from the internet you have to actively seek it out. Epcot on the other hand used the Disney name to draw people in, and then exposed them to technologies and cultures that they might not have otherwise had any interest in.

 

[Mike S]

My point was that the park shouldn't be looking backwards, while from what I've seen of it online the original Imagination looked fantastic, there's no reason they can't build something just as fantastic but today in the new park.

And that is what the plan was until it was dropped. Same basic story as the original but new.

 

[biggy H]

Yes, but if you want this information from the internet you have to actively seek it out. Epcot on the other hand used the Disney name to draw people in, and then exposed them to technologies and cultures that they might not have otherwise had any interest in.

True but to most people they wouldn't bother or look and see and say 'oh is that it? I could have seen that at home...' To keep current Disney would need to change every month or so which without a rich sponsor we know wouldn't happen....

 

[Bocabear]

Yes, but if you want this information from the internet you have to actively seek it out. Epcot on the other hand used the Disney name to draw people in, and then exposed them to technologies and cultures that they might not have otherwise had any interest in.

Yes! And it's one thing to see new stuff on the internet....quite something different to see it in person working in realtime... Always more impressive... The internet did not kill EPCOT, and the world has not caught up to the far reaching visions shown in the original attractions at EPCOT...Once could argue that Space Mountain's Hole Of Future Living has all come to pass... in in one form or another, but I don't think RCA was reaching that far into the future......as they were developing those products... Future World's vision is still relevant...

 

[Cesar R M]

While I will agree there is not enough, there is beautiful art on display in the Morocco exhibit, I absolutely love the movie about France...Canada has a circle vision film that shows off some of their beautiful country, China has a great film about the country, There is a gallery in Japan that has rotating exhibits...Mexico...has....well that's not a good example, and I think the American Adventure is absolutely amazing... I also enjoy the shopping for fun things... While it is not The Magic Kingdom, it is stilla great park that just needs some dusting off...and a few more appropriate attractions added to the World Showcase...It does not need to change and be a different park...

we have.. humm.. pyramids and.. that dbag of donald ruining mexico
what with all these donalds always doing something on mexico?

 

[dupac]

we have.. humm.. pyramids and.. that dbag of donald ruining mexico
what with all these donalds always doing something on mexico?

I feel like replacing the art exhibit when you first walk into the pyramid with something new would be nice, but also probably too much to ask from Disney.

 

[Bocabear]

I feel like replacing the art exhibit when you first walk into the pyramid with something new would be nice, but also probably too much to ask from Disney.

At one time they also had some very cute cultural displays where you could add your picture into Mexican postacrds and learn a little about mexican culture, but that seems to be gone now too...

 

[RoysCabin]

I feel like replacing the art exhibit when you first walk into the pyramid with something new would be nice, but also probably too much to ask from Disney.

Yeah, I'd give anything for many of the museum style exhibits to rotate more often than they do; the entrance in Mexico, the installation in China (only updated because of Shanghai Disney), the stave church, the space in American Adventure (though I don't mind that one being a bit more permanent, it's a very prized collection), the back room in Japan, heck I'm a big enough nerd that I'd add more where I could.

 

[Cesar R M]

Depending on how they define "magic". Remember, in Thor, all the godly divine magic hoo-ha is handwaved with "they're aliens whose science is so far advanced that it may as well be magic".

Odin magic is not technology in any form.

 

[Cesar R M]

EXACTLY! this didn't add that much if someone was avoiding the park because it wasn't Magic Kingdom...

they still made them waste one ticket on epcot thinking it was magic kingdom 2, or buy hoppers.
which still means money for disney.

 

[Cesar R M]

This seems like an admission that the parks, (all of them, not just Epcot) were once much better (the glory days) and since that "ship has sailed", you are completely fine with a lesser product and the ONLY possible solution is to use movies to prop it up?

And consider this dismaying observation....Frozen Ever After was the first wave of the IP invasion which many people claim is what will "save" Epcot, yet the most popular attractions at the park remain to be the ones WITHOUT a movie attached to them (Soarin, TT).

dont forget the upcharge events.

Just go away.

that clown still at it?
Im surprised he hasnt been banned.
he really reeks of trolling.