There is a simple way to deal with overcrowding, that I suspect most people on this forum wouldn't be happy about. Be careful what you wish for.
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There is a simple way to deal with overcrowding, that I suspect most people on this forum wouldn't be happy about. Be careful what you wish for.
andysol
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Absolutely.
The issue is when it infringes on other guests and their experiences.
If you want to pay $80/person for some cheap cupcakes and watch some projections on the chinese theater- by all means, knock yourself out.
But this infringes on others, which sucks. Granted, Universal and others have been doing this with Express Passes for years. The problem is that Disney already artificially inflates wait times through reduction of staff and trains/sides running.
So now it becomes an ethics issue. If they start making BTMRR run only one side of the trains because they know they can sell more $50/person fastpasses- or manipulate tiers like we're seeing at DAK, they are a-holes. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Universal tends to follow Disney so that they are seen as a similar value
Fixed that for you.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
That's definitely true, but the rooms are still competitive to Disney's rooms and it's unlimited access to all rides rather than three planned 60 days in advance. Universal definitely has the edge here.
Lets Respect
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Yep. Get rid of the AP option. Problem solved
trainplane3
Well-Known Member
And this will increase wait times for us "normies" by how much? Actually, this probably won't effect much during the trial. If it gets rolled out resort wide, well...RIP wait times.
That is kind of a benefit from having a much smaller room inventory.
asianway
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Nothings official. Yet
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
True, but it's still a very nice competitive advantage. Top tier passholders also have express bundled too although it's only enabled after 4pm.
That's not really going to solve the problem though. They've already added so many blackouts to all but the platinum pass, yet they still hit capacity at Christmas and New Years. They need to increase ticket prices, possibly 2x current.
21stamps
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Right, but is the “rumor” just $50 for 3 additional FP, with no other details?
21stamps
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...and less visitors.
Does anyone know actual attendance numbers? 2017- Universal visitors. 2017-WDW visitors?
Captain Barbossa
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Haha. Then the standby would be the FP line I guess.If everyone's in the FP+ line, does the FP+ line become the standby line?
2017 is not out yet, but per TEA, MK saw slightly more than double the guests that US did in 2016. (MK 20.3 million US 9.9 million)
By Comparison MK alone will see slightly more guests than US and IOA combined in a given year.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
That’s what I figured. Which is why it’s easier for US to do a paid/included with accompations FP.. and why I don’t think we’ll see the current FP system at WDW replaced with a paid version. It would defeat the purpose of why Disney has the system in the first place.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
That makes sense. Do you, or does anyone have the trends at all of the parks over time? I'd like to see that graph if it exists.
Raise the price of theme park admission? They (TDO/TWDC) have already been doing that, and are on record as wanting to do it to reduce the number of people visiting the parks. They'd love to have a few million people less visiting MK but paying an additional $20-$50 (or more) per head to get in, plus paying more for food, merchandise, extras, etc.
