lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Fast Lane is not FastPass. It is a front of a line pass, not a reservation system that is intended more and more as a primary means of experiencing the park.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Gotta Pay2Play: Paid FP on the way!
- Thread starter ScoutN
- Start date
21stamps
Well-Known Member
Hundreds if you ask my child.lol
I think this past year they’ve tried to even that out a bit. MK opened an hour earlier on party days, a lot of days with an hour of ‘extra magic’ before that... and the non party nights had a later closing time. Not a perfect scenario, but looks like they’re trying to cater to all.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
The premise is the same for the consumer, to skip long wait times in standby.
Lets Respect
Well-Known Member
If they are giving Club Level the chance to buy FPs for $15 each, how much do you think they would charge for an add-on like that?
Last edited:
"value" is different for every person. It is also different for every type of trip for individual people. In some cases, I will take advantage of a specific "extra cost offering". On other trips, I may just choose to keep it as cheap as possible or only take advantage of things offered as part of basic no extra cost experiences. Does allowing Springs hotel guests access to EMH damage the experience for others who chose to pay more and stay on property? To a degree yes because there are now more people in the park during EMH thus creating less opportunity to do as much as you could previously do. Will allowing people to buy extra FPs as part of their package effect the experience of other guests? Likely, as there are a limited number of FPs available and now the pool of people getting them is diminished. But, is it a choice I now have as well? Yes, so I can determine the particular value to me. After hours paid events, Cabanas, etc etc do not have an effect on others. There are 4 parks and if one closes early, just like during the Halloween or Christmas parties, I can visit another park on those evenings. Do my research and determine what is best for MY situation. But, that is a choice I can make based on what has value to me. I have a slight issue with how much they have devalued AP holders, BUT, I also recognize that if I go 25 days a year, Im paying 35/day and that in itself is a huge value. Then I can choose to eat at a sig restaurant or not. With TIW I see a value. I can choose to stay on property or not. I can choose to do a tour or not. There are still a ton of choices.
While I understand peoples assertion that things being done effect the overall experience of guests not wanting to essentially pay twice for something they already have access to, I also from person standpoint, make decisions on the park visits based on what has value to me. And this new Pay for FP option is just another choice I will be in a position to decide on for each trip.
While I understand peoples assertion that things being done effect the overall experience of guests not wanting to essentially pay twice for something they already have access to, I also from person standpoint, make decisions on the park visits based on what has value to me. And this new Pay for FP option is just another choice I will be in a position to decide on for each trip.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The problem with the parties is they have 60 of them that start at 7...20 years ago that would have been additional hours...now it's basically cutting down what should be a 10-12 legitimate closing time to sell tickets.
This is moving us to more expensive "block" ticketing...and that's not good.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It’s not the same for the consumer and not at all the same for operations.
bhg469
Well-Known Member
yet, they still havent come close to the late hours they used to be open at just about all the parks. I just miss staying late, because I am absolutely not a morning person and I definitely think there is a different magic to the parks at night.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
I’m in complete agreement with you there!
Operations is why I don’t think it will ever happen at WDW.
I think there is a consumer want for it, as evidenced by parks across the country implementing such passes.. but there isn’t a good reason to do it at Disney. Not from an operational standpoint, and not from a price point option.
If you’re ok with standing in a stand by queue, then there isn’t a reason for dealing with booking FPs at WDW. I reserve my FPs for the same reason that I purchase a Fast Lane, and I’m sure millions of others do the same. People do it to skip the long wait times. Disney does it for crowd management.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
A front of line pass doesn't have limits and is completely user friendly...
Fastpass is the opposite...tight windows, one shot and you have to eat and pee around them.
Tomato/eggplant
Fastpass is the opposite...tight windows, one shot and you have to eat and pee around them.
Tomato/eggplant
21stamps
Well-Known Member
Which is why it can’t be completely changed to a “paid” only option.. it would have to become the same as Universal’s version and everywhere else. That doesn’t benefit Disney... so I don’t think people should be in fear of it actually happening.
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
asianway
Well-Known Member
As in - Youre a local, can go whenever you want, get FP last minute, go on slow days, evenings, mornings, every day. I cant see buying another round of anything.Wait, what?
Scratch that - forgot the lifestyler contingent.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
How did you think Six Flags and Cedar Fair parks stay crowded all season long? Their pass holders are at the parks often..we go weekly at the very least.
asianway
Well-Known Member
I never said people dont. I said why would you start adding more rides at $16.66 a clip
eliza61nyc
Well-Known Member
locals are not the only ones purchasing annual passes.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
That’s what I’m saying.. it’s because of the same reason people are now paying $500 for a “season long” fast lane as an addition to the annual pass itself, or $100+ for a single day of the Fast Lane.
Millions of people love rides, and the park industry has figured out that a large portion of said people will pay more money to go on rides more often than they could with admission/annual passes alone.
mikejs78
Well-Known Member
Which parks are closing earlier? Epcot has closed at 9 except in peak seasons as long as I can remember.... Animal Kingdom has *expanded* into nighttime hours. DHS has, but thats because it's pretty much a shell of it's former self at this point and demand just isn't there. I suspect when SWGE opens next year that DHS will be expanding it's hours once again. That leaves MK. And I remember a time when MK regularly closed at 7 in off-peak times, not even having fireworks (granted that was 25-30 years ago, but still). I have zero problem with the parties. The dates for them are known well in advance, if you don't like it just don't go to the park that day. Simple.
21stamps
Well-Known Member
@asianway the vouchers in this photo are from a “game” Spin a Wheel at $5 per Spin and hope to land on a “good ride” so you can enter in the Fast Lane line.. we spun several times that day because we arrived 3 hours before park closing and I was too cheap to pay $200 for a fast lane for that amount of time. This way was $35, much cheaper, but unfortunately we landed on a few lemons.lol.
There are so many people who will pay to skip lines and ride their favorites multiple times...no matter how frequently they visit.
There are so many people who will pay to skip lines and ride their favorites multiple times...no matter how frequently they visit.