Got laid off Monday, which foreign Disney Park should I visit?

Travel Junkie

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Yeah I think Paris is the strong front runner. I’ve been to Europe once. Sicily for one month - 17 years ago. Why do i hear such negative reviews about the city of Paris though? It seems like people hate it or love it. But most people I know who have been to a few European cities, say it was one of their least favorite stops.

Anyway, I always pictured when I go to France that I would do some of the country side and south of France on the same trip but but I’m not sure all of that plus Disney is feasible on one trip. At least In a way where your not rushing, relaxing a little and doing it right. Unless I spend 2+ weeks there which I’m not prepared to do for a few reasons.

I really like Paris, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's elegant yet dirty if that makes sense. Think about it, Disney made a movie set in France and they chose a rat as its star. Not a coincidence.


The negativity may come down to a couple of things. 1. the locals aren't particularly friendly towards tourists or if you don't speak french. 2. Big tourist destinations can get really long lines and all seem to have different rules. Like DLR you have to pass security to get into just about any well known spot. Imagine going through security 5 times a day if you plan on seeing 5 sites in Paris in one day. Some allow bags, others make you store them before entering. Usually you have some grumpy older french person telling you what the rules are too. 3. The expectations. All you hear is how great the place is. It's hard to live up to.
 

mickEblu

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I'd say do not base your travel plans purely around a theme park - unless the theme park in the only destination you have in mind, pick the location you are more interested in.

It sounds like Paris is the correct fit on everything you've said!


Congratulations on the next step in your life!

Thanks!! Yeah I can’t justify basing my plans solely around a theme park. Not when there are so many places I haven’t seen yet. However to knock off a bucket list city that “just so” happens to have the most beautiful Disney park in the world? Yes please.
 

DLR92

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That a tough choice. I would do Paris! But honestly I could see myself ignoring Disneyland Paris when I can enjoy shopping in Paris and see everything and visit other counties in one stone. lol

Yet I think Tokyo if also fun city to visit. And Tokyo Disneyland with Tokyo DisneySea look much fun to visit amusement park wise.
 
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I kinda find it funny when people say Paris is dirty. Aren't most big cities dirty relative to suburban American enclaves? Even Anaheim, at least beyond DLR, isn't exactly a spotless or safe place to stroll around if you're a tourist. And even if it is cleaner and safer for some reason I personally feel more at home wandering around on foot in Manhattan, Paris, or Rome than I do in California suburbs like Garden Grove or Buena Park. Again I'm a city boy, so YMMV.
 

Travel Junkie

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I kinda find it funny when people say Paris is dirty. Aren't most big cities dirty relative to suburban American enclaves? Even Anaheim, at least beyond DLR, isn't exactly a spotless or safe place to stroll around if you're a tourist. And even if it is cleaner and safer for some reason I personally feel more at home wandering around on foot in Manhattan, Paris, or Rome than I do in California suburbs like Garden Grove or Buena Park. Again I'm a city boy, so YMMV.

I agree with you, but that's the complaint from many. Not too mention how old these cities are, of course they won't be spotless. When I saw the mini land around Ratatouille that resembles Paris, I felt it didn't look authentic. After thinking about why I realized it was missing the grime.

On the flip side I found some cities like Tokyo and Shanghai to be ridiculously clean, especially for cities of their size.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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@mickEblu you know I have OPINIONS.

And now, my definitive guide to choosing international Disney parks and the cities they are nestled in:

TOKYO is the cleanest, most amazing city in the world. It's, and I do not say this lightly, life changing. The city is wondrous, pristine, sprawling. The culture is fascinating. The food is incredible (and I don't even eat seafood). I never want to leave Tokyo. TOKYO DISNEY RESORT is the pinnacle of modern Disney theme parks. Tokyo Disneyland is a greatest hits park with its own signature mind-blowing attractions found nowhere else. Tokyo DisneySea is the single most beautiful, enveloping, stunning theme park in the world. It's impossible to describe and pictures can't communicate it.

Downsides: alcohol in Japan is very weak, TDR will ruin every other Disney park for you and you'll be one of those insufferable people who's constantly saying "Well in Tokyo..." while you're at DLR

PARIS is Paris. There's nothing like it. It's a bit grimy, it doesn't sparkle like Tokyo, but it's PARIS. It's a must. Airbnb it in a French apartment and save some serious dough while feeling like a local (this is good advice for Tokyo as well). Culturally Paris is second to none. DISNEYLAND RESORT PARIS is an exercise in extreme contrasts. Disneyland Paris is stunning - Tony Baxter's nerd version of what his ideal Disneyland would be. Pirates is incredible here, so is Phantom Manor (closed till September though). The castle is by far the most beautiful of them all, and the dragon underneath is not to be missed. DLP is there to be explored - nooks, crannies, walkthroughs abound. WALT DISNEY STUDIOS PARIS is the ugliest, vilest piece of crap Disney has ever built. It's stark, hideous, harsh. But unlike DHS at WDW, it has attractions. Mickey and the Magician is the best Disney park stage show on the planet right now. Ratatouille is impressive, even if it ultimately misses the mark. DCA TOT will weird you out. Crush's Coaster is, uh, certainly there. Don't miss Armageddon! It's hilarious.

Downsides: Paris has crime, no way around it. You have to be vigilant for pickpockets and scammers in a way you just don't have to in Asia. Operationally, DLRP is a mess. Restaurants close early, if they open at all, some rides operate at permanently slashed capacity.

HONG KONG is probably the best way to start in Asia, if you're American and you've never been. English is a primary language, transit is simple, there's tons of cheap food, and the city itself is a dream. Really. Hong Kong was never some place I aspired to visit but once I went I couldn't believe I'd waited so long. It's enchanting in its own way and just wildly unique. It's like New York and San Francisco had a clean baby that was shoved into a mountainside jungle. HONG KONG DISNEYLAND is desperately charming. Anaheim fans will feel very weird on Main Street, as it's nearly an exact copy. The park is small-ish, but it's on the original Disneyland scale. The mountainous backdrop and jungle foliage is exciting and palpable. Mystic Manor is, if not the greatest, one of the greatest attractions Disney has ever created. Iron Man Experience is an upgrade (IMO) from Star Tours and Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars is way more fun than its Big Thunder counterparts.

Downsides: Toy Story Land

SHANGHAI is a place I would never send you to if you had not already been to Hong Kong and Tokyo. The city, while impressive and full of some amazing sights, is culturally difficult to navigate. English is almost non-existent so it behooves you to learn some basic Mandarin phases. Mainland Chinese culture is starkly different from ours, let along Hong Kong and Japan. You should absolutely go here after you've been everywhere else. All of the Orlando lifestylers who left the country for the first time to go to SDL's opening were NUTS and probably had culture shock on a scale they weren't prepared for. SHANGHAI DISNEYLAND is sprawling, so much so that some parts of it don't feel like a theme park. Just grass. Pirates is insane. It's indescribable. The scale of it is unlike anything else, the effects are jaw-dropping. The park has a lot to be proud of, but it's not the be all end all it's sold as. Tron is fun, but incredibly short and now on its way to WDW. Food and merchandise are weirdly expensive.

Downsides: Culture shock can be difficult to navigate, park very far from city center

Anyway, hope all this helps! Wherever you end up you're going to have an amazing time!
 

mickEblu

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@mickEblu you know I have OPINIONS.

And now, my definitive guide to choosing international Disney parks and the cities they are nestled in:

TOKYO is the cleanest, most amazing city in the world. It's, and I do not say this lightly, life changing. The city is wondrous, pristine, sprawling. The culture is fascinating. The food is incredible (and I don't even eat seafood). I never want to leave Tokyo. TOKYO DISNEY RESORT is the pinnacle of modern Disney theme parks. Tokyo Disneyland is a greatest hits park with its own signature mind-blowing attractions found nowhere else. Tokyo DisneySea is the single most beautiful, enveloping, stunning theme park in the world. It's impossible to describe and pictures can't communicate it.

Downsides: alcohol in Japan is very weak, TDR will ruin every other Disney park for you and you'll be one of those insufferable people who's constantly saying "Well in Tokyo..." while you're at DLR

PARIS is Paris. There's nothing like it. It's a bit grimy, it doesn't sparkle like Tokyo, but it's PARIS. It's a must. Airbnb it in a French apartment and save some serious dough while feeling like a local (this is good advice for Tokyo as well). Culturally Paris is second to none. DISNEYLAND RESORT PARIS is an exercise in extreme contrasts. Disneyland Paris is stunning - Tony Baxter's nerd version of what his ideal Disneyland would be. Pirates is incredible here, so is Phantom Manor (closed till September though). The castle is by far the most beautiful of them all, and the dragon underneath is not to be missed. DLP is there to be explored - nooks, crannies, walkthroughs abound. WALT DISNEY STUDIOS PARIS is the ugliest, vilest piece of crap Disney has ever built. It's stark, hideous, harsh. But unlike DHS at WDW, it has attractions. Mickey and the Magician is the best Disney park stage show on the planet right now. Ratatouille is impressive, even if it ultimately misses the mark. DCA TOT will weird you out. Crush's Coaster is, uh, certainly there. Don't miss Armageddon! It's hilarious.

Downsides: Paris has crime, no way around it. You have to be vigilant for pickpockets and scammers in a way you just don't have to in Asia. Operationally, DLRP is a mess. Restaurants close early, if they open at all, some rides operate at permanently slashed capacity.

HONG KONG is probably the best way to start in Asia, if you're American and you've never been. English is a primary language, transit is simple, there's tons of cheap food, and the city itself is a dream. Really. Hong Kong was never some place I aspired to visit but once I went I couldn't believe I'd waited so long. It's enchanting in its own way and just wildly unique. It's like New York and San Francisco had a clean baby that was shoved into a mountainside jungle. HONG KONG DISNEYLAND is desperately charming. Anaheim fans will feel very weird on Main Street, as it's nearly an exact copy. The park is small-ish, but it's on the original Disneyland scale. The mountainous backdrop and jungle foliage is exciting and palpable. Mystic Manor is, if not the greatest, one of the greatest attractions Disney has ever created. Iron Man Experience is an upgrade (IMO) from Star Tours and Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars is way more fun than its Big Thunder counterparts.

Downsides: Toy Story Land

SHANGHAI is a place I would never send you to if you had not already been to Hong Kong and Tokyo. The city, while impressive and full of some amazing sights, is culturally difficult to navigate. English is almost non-existent so it behooves you to learn some basic Mandarin phases. Mainland Chinese culture is starkly different from ours, let along Hong Kong and Japan. You should absolutely go here after you've been everywhere else. All of the Orlando lifestylers who left the country for the first time to go to SDL's opening were NUTS and probably had culture shock on a scale they weren't prepared for. SHANGHAI DISNEYLAND is sprawling, so much so that some parts of it don't feel like a theme park. Just grass. Pirates is insane. It's indescribable. The scale of it is unlike anything else, the effects are jaw-dropping. The park has a lot to be proud of, but it's not the be all end all it's sold as. Tron is fun, but incredibly short and now on its way to WDW. Food and merchandise are weirdly expensive.

Downsides: Culture shock can be difficult to navigate, park very far from city center

Anyway, hope all this helps! Wherever you end up you're going to have an amazing time!


Hahah yes you do and thanks for the super detailed breakdown! You definitely make a case for Tokyo. I think it really comes down to the X factor- my son. I just can’t imagine taking him to Tokyo for some reason. Come to think of it, Paris doesn’t sound like a great option with him either. It’s funny, Shanghai is last on my list too eventhough it probably has two of the hottest attractions right now. Hong Kong sounds appealing and I wonder if I could do it as a stop on the way to Tokyo? Here I go, sounding crazy again. None of this sounds doable with a 2 year old. On a semi serious note, maybe I’ll leave the wife and kid at home and just go with a friend or something. I don’t have to feel too bad, we already have Maui family trip booked for October (booked pre layoff).
 
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Curious Constance

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Hahah yes you do and thanks for the super detailed breakdown! You definitely make a case for Tokyo. I think it really comes down to the X factor- my son. I just can’t imagine taking him to Tokyo for some reason. Come to think of it, Paris doesn’t sound like a great option with him either. It’s funny, Shanghai is last on my list too eventhough it probably has two of the hottest attractions right now. Hong Kong sounds appealing and I wonder if I could do it as a stop on the way to Tokyo? Here I go, sounding crazy again. None of this sounds doable with a 2 year old. On a semi serious note, maybe I’ll leave the wife and kid at home and just go with a friend or something. I don’t have to feel too bad, we already have Maui family trip booked for October (pre layoff).

We're going to Aulani in August, and I literally cannot wait!!!!
 

Curious Constance

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Nice! I’ve heard good things. This will be m third trip to Hawaii, first to Maui. Went to Oahu when I was 13 and Kauai for honeymoon 5 years ago. I feel like Kauai will be tough to beat.

None of us have ever been to Hawaii, so this will be new to us all. I'm looking forward to an actual vacation where I feel like we'll actually get to relax. I'm not going to overbook us on activites. I have a few things I want to do, but mostly want to enjoy the resort and beach.

If anyone has been to Aulani/Oahu and has advice or recommendations, I'd be grateful.
 

Darkbeer1

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Due to my father's job, spent many a summer in Hawaii, and you are right about, Kauai, each island is truly unique.

I am a fan of the Big Island. Oahu is really two places, Honolulu, and the rest of the state. Big fan of the Polynesian Cultural Center and the North Shore. I remember being able to ride a Polo pony for trail riding (exercise for the horse). There was a pig who thought he was a sheepdog and kept the horses in line.... Alas, more and more of Oahu is becoming more commercial and touristy.

But I like the idea of ditching the family for this trip, and make sure the two year old is taken care of in Hawaii.
 

Darkbeer1

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Take the bus tour around the island,

Top of the list, the Pearl Harbor Memorial and related ships.

Also the Dole Plantation and the Polynesian Cultural Center.

The North Shore. Waimea Falls.

The Sea Life Park.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Hahah yes you do and thanks for the super detailed breakdown! You definitely make a case for Tokyo. I think it really comes down to the X factor- my son. I just can’t imagine taking him to Tokyo for some reason. Come to think of it, Paris doesn’t sound like a great option with him either. It’s funny, Shanghai is last on my list too eventhough it probably has two of the hottest attractions right now. Hong Kong sounds appealing and I wonder if I could do it as a stop on the way to Tokyo? Here I go, sounding crazy again. None of this sounds doable with a 2 year old. On a semi serious note, maybe I’ll leave the wife and kid at home and just go with a friend or something. I don’t have to feel too bad, we already have Maui family trip booked for October (booked pre layoff).

If you're going to Tokyo, HK and/or Shanghai are easy add-ons (do it first, then onto Japan). You can usually add a multi-day stop in HK to your air ticket for not that much more. If you go out of LAX in particular it's very easy and cheap most of the time.
 

mickEblu

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Due to my father's job, spent many a summer in Hawaii, and you are right about, Kauai, each island is truly unique.

I am a fan of the Big Island. Oahu is really two places, Honolulu, and the rest of the state. Big fan of the Polynesian Cultural Center and the North Shore. I remember being able to ride a Polo pony for trail riding (exercise for the horse). There was a pig who thought he was a sheepdog and kept the horses in line.... Alas, more and more of Oahu is becoming more commercial and touristy.

But I like the idea of ditching the family for this trip, and make sure the two year old is taken care of in Hawaii.

What did your father do? Military?

Ya Kauai was pretty magical. Beautiful/ lush, not commercial at all with a nice mix of adventure and relaxation.

If (and this is a BIG if ) I go without my wife on a trip it basically forces me to go to Tokyo. I’m pretty sure she would divorce me if I went to Paris without her. Now Tokyo, she’d still be upset but she doesn’t have any real desire to go there.
 

Darkbeer1

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My Father was Senior Scientist for the Inter American Tropical Tuna Commission, who had offices in La Jolla and Honolulu. Associated with the National Fishery Service ( NOAA) and the UN. He spent a lot of time on boats and travelling the world, including places like Cuba and Eastern Europe, when most US citizens couldn't visit.

Ended up inheriting a house on the Big Island that we still own today. (Kealia)
 

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