Pre-Trip Going to Disney with my Mommy and Daddy

It was July 10, 1980-something. My family had just moved to Atlanta, Ga. and my parents decided to buy Walt Disney World Annual Passes for the whole the family. That decision sparked a major turning point in our families history. During the course of that first year as Annual Pass holders, we became a Disney Family. And not just an average Disney family that visited once a year or every few years. We averaged 2-4 trips per year. As the years passed and my brother, sisters and myself have grown older, we have never stopped being a Disney Family. In the dozens and dozens of trips we have taken, there has been practically every variation of which family members went. Sometimes its the whole family, others have been me joining my sister or brothers family, sometimes just my wife and I, and many of the grandparents, (my parents) visiting with the younglings. We had done Disney every which way possible, .......or at least thats what I thought.

The course of events leading up to this trip started out a bit frustrating, but ended up being very exciting, and something I had never considered as an option. After several changes in the trip plans of who would be going and when, it ended up being my Mother, Father, and myself. In all the years of visiting, I have never had a trip with just myself and my parents. So before I get to the details of how this came about, I shall introduce the cast of the trip. Please pardon the quality of the pictures of my parents as my mom used her cell phone to take pictures of actual printed photos in her photo album. She apparently did not deem my PTR worthy of taking the time to scan the photos and email them, lol. So here is the cast:

Who:

Me:
Keith, a 30-something Disney nerd

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Ok, so thats not me, but its a good example of how much I act like a child when Im in WDW.
Here is an actual photo of me which shows my other "Disney Side", which is the self proclaimed Mayor of Drunkey Town.
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For my parents photos, I will post pictures of them at Disney from waaaaay back in the day in an effort to establish their street cred in the Disney fan community, hahaha. And also just because the outfits are too awesome not too!

My Mom: Debbie

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She is rockin' that faux snakeskin bathing suit tucked into those jorts. And yes, my baby sister was a little more daring and went with the bathing suit sans jorts.

My Father: Paul

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If I could replicate that outfit (my dads), I would totally do it. This very well may be my endeavour leading up to our trip. And no, I will not make any effort to recreate the midriff and high cut shorts I am wearing in this photo, although I feel I did pull it off quite well back then.

Here is a more recent photo of my parents together at Disney. They are in the second row behind my sister and her son in the first row:

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Where: 5 days at Animal Kingdom Lodge Jambo House!!!

When: Shortly after Pandora opens at AK!!!


So there you go. Some of you know me from my past trip reports and now you know my awesome parents as well!

The idea for this trip was born when my wife and her mother planned a two week trip to visit Italy this fall. Yes, the real Italy, not the pavilion at Epcot. I wont be able to join them and my wife is basically using all her vacation time for the year. Ive always talked about taking a solo trip to WDW so my wife suggested that I actually do it this year since we cant go together. If your wife gives you a free pass to travel and agrees to take care of the house and animals while you are gone, YOU TAKE IT!!! So I did. A few days into my planning, my sister calls me to tell me that she booked a Disney Cruise for her family. I told her I was planning a solo trip and within minutes the plans changed to me joining them for a few days at WDW before they set sail on the Fantasy. I checked availability, (thanks @lostpro9het for the help) went back and forth with my sister on which resort, and after several days we decided and I was all ready to book the room when my sister calls to tell me they decided to visit Cape Canaveral instead.

So back to the original plan of a solo trip. Then I had the idea that bringing my youngest nephew along might be a fun adventure (he is four years old). After my family stopped laughing hysterically at the idea of me (I dont have children) being able to handle a four year old at Disney, they convinced me that it might not be the pie in the sky dream of a perfect trip I was envisioning. After my bruised ego healed, I thought asking my parents to tag along would ease the worries of my nephew joining me. I called my Dad, pitched the idea, and he said he would think about it and call me back. A few days later I get a call with a counter offer, (my Dad is an attorney so negotiating is always a factor, lol). My parents said they would like to go to Disney, but without any young children. Just me and them. My Mom explained how they have always enjoyed the pictures and stories my wife and I have of our trips together and how we take it slow and mostly eat, drink and just soak in the atmosphere and they have never had a trip like that for themselves. It has always been with us kids, or the grand kids. I had never realized that. My parents moved Heaven and Earth for us kids to have an amazing childhood and if anybody deserves a few days to relax at WDW, it is them.

Granted, they wont exactly be alone since I am going, but we are planning to enjoy the best of both worlds. I will take a day or two to have my solo trip time while my parents do whatever their hearts desire. We will mix in random times to meet up and enjoy some time together as well. I am trying to convince my Mom to join the forums and participate in this PTR as well so hopefully she will and it will add another perspective. We are still in the early stages of planning so I will update this as we make progress. More to come soon!!!!! Have a great day!!!!!











 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Original Poster
Well, Im back home, (actually got back yesterday). Need to upload my photos to pc and then ill get started on my TR. We had a blast! We laughed, we cried, (mostly the young ones, but.... I always get a little choked up when I first see Spaceship Earth and the Castle), we ate, we drank, we argued, (mostly the adults, lol), but most of all we made many, many unforgettable memories and gave my dad what he called, "the best surprise he has had in long time".

I know some of you guys/gals were following along on my Instagram, so you may see a few pictures that I posted there as well, but fear not, I saved some the best pics for the TR! I am no @fractal or @sheriffwoody when it comes to taking quality photos, but Im great at zooming in on the pictures of food and booze!!! Have a great weekend everyone.

Now......my dogs are assembling for a swinging training session, and they'll be expecting me...I'll see you all a little later.
 

Dave B

Well-Known Member
Never saw Avatar. Knew in advance I'd hate it. Have no expectations for Pandora but am going in with an appreciation for the cool Disney details I know will be there. Just considering it a different kind of Fantasyland. While I may not "get" the movie references or hidden images, it won't prevent me from enjoying (or hating, should it trigger motion sickness) the attractions there.
I was reading an old thread and just saw your response; I was wondering what your initial thoughts were after your first ride going in blind about the movie. Also when is your next trip report, I am anxiously awaiting yuour adventure.
 

Tuvalu

Premium Member
I was reading an old thread and just saw your response; I was wondering what your initial thoughts were after your first ride going in blind about the movie. Also when is your next trip report, I am anxiously awaiting yuour adventure.

Initial Pandora review and NRJ
WARNING

This post contains a less-than-favorable first impression of Pandora. Pixie Dusters should skip ahead.


Some background for those of you still reading ~ Our first family visit to Animal Kingdom was in July 1998, three months after the official opening. I had to drag my kids out of bed so that we could be at the bus stop at 6 am. The park opened at 7 am and I'd heard horror stories about the crowds. It was a very warm and humid morning (much like our present day very warm and humid evening!) When the rope dropped, we walked shoulder-to-shoulder with thousands of other guests through the Oasis. No one stopped to look at anything as everyone was in a rush to get to the Safari. There was no signage and all I knew was it was "in the back of the park."

We enjoyed the Safari and afterward began the difficult task of navigating the park. All paths looked the same (even the map was not much help) and the few attractions that were open were spread out far from each other. Two of my three kids were freaked out by "It's Tough to be a Bug" (middle son stood up during the show and yelled "Get me out of here!"); all three (and Woody) were frightened by Dinosaur; we rode the train and then made the long, sweaty walk to Conservation Station where there was nothing to see; and lastly waited in a slow-moving (uncovered) line for an hour to ride the "Discovery" river boat....where again, there was nothing to see.

All during conditions of oppressive heat and humidity.

Thus, our first experience of AK was not a good one. And though the park has greatly improved over the years (especially with the addition of directional signs!) it remains our least favorite park. First experiences can taint future experiences.

And now Pandora.

Due to the difficulty of obtaining FPs (and the tier system) our first experience of the new land would be at night. In hindsight, seeing it during the day first would have been better. Much better.

Though the Pandora area is small we found ourselves turned around and confused by where we were (lack of signs!); it was super-crowded; steam was rising off the pavement due to the humidity; and the bioluminescent lighting made us all a little woozy.

The fact that none of us had seen Avatar (or watched any Pandora videos) probably didn't help matters.

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The standby wait for Na'vi River Journey was an hour and as we would soon learn, mostly outdoors. We scanned our bands and were quickly in the loading area.

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Em said she wasn't taking any pictures of the ride so I took a few with my iPhone.

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(What are we looking at?, you may be thinking. And my honest answer is "I have no idea.")

As our boat drifted along Woody asked, "Is this the pre-show? I'm waiting for something to happen."

Seconds later the Shaman appeared.....
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.....and the ride was over. o_O

Em's expression speaks for the three of us.
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Now I am not one to use profanity but the first words out of my mouth were, "What the hell was that??!!!"

Instant flashback to the Discovery River Boat ride.

I cannot imagine waiting an hour plus for Na'vi River Journey. Less than 10 minutes and I might consider riding again. Waste of a tier 1 FP? Absolutely.

(A major way to improve the ride would be the addition of @wdisney9000's family dancing and singing and imitating the Shaman chant! :joyfull:)

We stopped for a Photopass on our way out. The photographer told us to look to our right and act surprised. When I saw the picture I expected there would be some creature (or Disney character) in the shot with us.

Nope.
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It wasn't until I compared the above ^ with the "before" picture that I saw the difference.

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(Floating white blobs! Quelle surprise!! :in pain:)

It began to rain which seemed like the perfect ending to our Pandora visit. We headed for the bus and did not stop for the Tree of Life Awakening (which would have been fun to watch had it not been raining.)

Once back in our room Woody turned on the TV. He discovered that one of the Disney channels plays Avatar 24/7. We caught the last 45 minutes of the movie. It helped to put Pandora in perspective....a little.

We'd give it another try on Saturday ~ during the daytime. Would Flight of Passage live up to the hype for us?
Or would our first impression of Pandora taint our next visit?

Second Pandora visit and FOP
Saturday, June 24

We ate a very early breakfast in the room because our impossible-to-get Flight of Passage FP window opened at 8:30 am. The AK bus was just pulling in when we got to the bus stop and we were one of three families to get a practically private ride to the park. (A little Shirley dust, perhaps?)

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It came with a price, however.

Don't you just love overhearing Disney "experts" share their "knowledge" with those around them? We were privileged to listen to Mr. Bus Expert announce with authority, "Buses pick up at the resorts at each half hour and leave the parks at 10 minutes til the hour." o_O

Then he opened his MDE app to check the wait time for Flight of Passage.
"180 minutes?" he bellowed. "That can't be right. The park just opened. How do they know?"

I like to give credit where credit is due. Mr. Expert was right. The standby wait when we got to AK was actually 195 minutes. :D

We stopped for a quick picture before continuing on to Pandora.
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WARNING

These posts contain a favorable second impression of Pandora. Pixie Dusters should continue reading.


As soon as we reached Pandora we realized what a huge mistake it had been for our first visit to be at night. There was no confusion as to where we were and no wooziness from bioluminescent lighting. WE COULD SEE!! :geek:

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It's a mountain!
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It's a waterfall!
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There's a brook!
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Colorful foliage!
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More waterfalls!
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OMG it's a face!!
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Okay, so I'm not exactly sure what this is.
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Or this.
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But hey, it's supposed to be a fantasy place, right?

(We, on the other hand, are real.)
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Joe Rhode: "Why have signs with words when you can use weird art to make a statement?"
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What ride is this? (Sorry but the weird art pictured above doesn't help much.)
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We purposefully waited until the end of our FP window to experience Flight of Passage. The plan was to get a "feel" for the land first....in the daylight....since that didn't really happen the other night in the dark. We felt a new appreciation for the Imagineers' creativity in their attempt to make Pandora authentic to the movie, even though Avatar isn't our cup of tea.

This test vehicle should have been out on Day 1.
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The standby wait for FoP was over 200 minutes when we entered the FP queue. We learned that the long wait wasn't only due to the number of people wanting to ride, but that the experience itself was longer than the typical Disney "ride". From the time we scanned our bands at the FP entrance to the time we exited was 30 minutes. We did not feel like we waited extraordinarily long in the FP line either. FoP is just a time consuming experience.

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FP was a necessity since a lot of the queue was outdoors and it was already miserably uncomfortable in the heat.

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This was our first stopping point. It was just a couple minutes before we moved into a briefing room.

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Not gonna lie.....it was a little scary in the briefing room. The host dude was creepy and awkward. Anxiety was a little high because we didn't know what to expect or what was going to happen next. Woody was assigned to a number that was not next to me or Em and he was essentially by himself ~ it wasn't until the ride was over that we figured out the "banshee" between us was probably broken.

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I suffer from motion sensitivity and cannot ride most screen-based rides without feeling ill afterwards. There are a few moments in Soarin' and Mickey's Philharmagic where I must close my eyes. Star Tours is an eyes-closed-all-the-time attraction for me and thus I don't do it often. I fully expected that I would have to close my eyes on FoP but I still wanted to try it. I was hopeful my decision would not ruin my morning.

Getting settled onto a "banshee" for the first time was a little unsettling. The restraints are very restrictive and my natural inclination was to tense up. I was afraid I was "doing it wrong" but no sirens went off and the CM didn't scold me so I relaxed....a little.

To say that FoP is a completely immersive experience is almost an understatement. WOW is much more accurate. The sensation of "riding a banshee" is very realistic. We were indeed soaring through a fantasy world! For the first couple of minutes I felt fine....but then the speed, screen distortion and looping took its toll and I shut my eyes. When it was over I did not feel queasy or have a headache. But I also had no strong desire to ride it again.

Woody and Em both gave FoP two thumbs way up! However both said they would not make a special trip to AK to ride it, especially during warmer months. We just don't care for AK in the summer heat.

The three of us agreed that Disney did "hit it out of the park" with Flight of Passage. We're glad so many guests love it and want to ride it again and again. If only Na'vi River Journey was half as good as FoP.....(half? We'd take 25 percent....10 percent....even 5 percent as good!!)

Due to the large number of guests in Pandora, we were routed to the alternate exit ~ which after a long,hefty walk ~ ended near the theater for Festival of the Lion King.

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The only way to fully appreciate the next picture is to know that it was taken in Harambe....and that the line for FoP entered through Pandora's main entrance, not through the exit we'd just taken.
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Another explanation for 3+ hour waits. :eek:
 

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