Germany Boat Ride

Oriolesmagic

Well-Known Member
Biergarten is to the east. Here`s another patented and highly complex technical composite by moi:

Rhine_River_2008_Compositeweb.jpg


The section that was built is at the front of the building, as I`ve said in previous threads. The unbuilt section contained the majority of the river and the maintainence spur at the rear. The concept art floating around the web shows a large boat - look closer and see this was actually the load area.

Hmm interesting, I find it hard to believe that they already made the building but they still won't make the ride.:confused:
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
No, they only made a small section of the show building which is now used for storage. None of the ride infrastructure, or the means to run a waterborne attraction, was installed.
 

Oriolesmagic

Well-Known Member
No, they only made a small section of the show building which is now used for storage. None of the ride infrastructure, or the means to run a waterborne attraction, was installed.

I know that, I didn't know it was being see though. My point was that if they had built the building why are they just letting it go to waste...oh wait is it visible, if so I guess it helps the scenery a lot. So... i guess I'm fine. I just want a new ride in a park that's long overdue.
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
Isnt the huge Japan showbuilding a storeroom also? That building always seemed much more massive to me.

oh I see now you said Germany was the second biggest, so would Japan be considered the first?
 

MiklCraw4d

Member
Sigh.

I think of all lost Showcase concepts this I'm most wistful about. I love those boat rides... Showcase really needs another nice dark ride. I've been thinking about the Spain showcase lately as well and it's really a shame that it never came to be.

World Showcase is such a wonderful area; it's a real disappointment that it's been stagnant since 1988. I guess there's no chance that they'd ever go back to such a simple concept as the Rhine Cruise - they don't really do those low-key scenic attractions anymore.

I just kills me that WDI has such fascinating, fully-planned out concepts sitting in their vaults that could be ready to go if someone would just cut a check.

I think sometimes that World Showcase has gone untouched just because it's under the radar of management. I've always thought if I were running the show I would appoint someone as the Showcase Czar and send them around to actively recruit host nations. I wonder if Disney is even trying to solicit new pavilions at this point...
 

Oriolesmagic

Well-Known Member
I think of all lost Showcase concepts this I'm most wistful about. I love those boat rides... Showcase really needs another nice dark ride. I've been thinking about the Spain showcase lately as well and it's really a shame that it never came to be.

World Showcase is such a wonderful area; it's a real disappointment that it's been stagnant since 1988. I guess there's no chance that they'd ever go back to such a simple concept as the Rhine Cruise - they don't really do those low-key scenic attractions anymore.

I just kills me that WDI has such fascinating, fully-planned out concepts sitting in their vaults that could be ready to go if someone would just cut a check.

I think sometimes that World Showcase has gone untouched just because it's under the radar of management. I've always thought if I were running the show I would appoint someone as the Showcase Czar and send them around to actively recruit host nations. I wonder if Disney is even trying to solicit new pavilions at this point...

I think Venezuela would be incredible, especially if they had a restaurant in the cliff behind the waterfall. That would be awe inspiring. Oh by the way um...other guy...you're right, I loved Millennium Village!:mad::cry:
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I think Venezuela would be incredible, especially if they had a restaurant in the cliff behind the waterfall. That would be awe inspiring. Oh by the way um...other guy...you're right, I loved Millennium Village!:mad::cry:

Hi!I'm EPCOT Explorer, but you can call me Evan.:wave:

And yeah..Why did they close MV after the Millennium?Too much to maintain?
 

Timon

Well-Known Member
I used to make regular trips through the Germany load/unload area in the 80's & 90's. Yes it was indeed used as storage area, I recall one time seeing row after row of benches pulled out of the park during off season, I suppose to reduce weathering and maintenance.

Anyway the area was totally unfinished, and "L" shaped. The walls were just bare beams with cuts in the concrete floor for the boat flume leading in one wall and out another. The mural wall is just bare metal studs and another smaller filled in arch on the Beer Garden side.

I used to visit the Beer Garden tech booth and used a catwalk which runs over the mural arch on the "boat"side which was really high but made it easy to see the floor cutouts for the flume.

Later in the 80's most of the space was outfitted with walls and drop ceilings for Entertainment rehearsal rooms which I suppose is still the case. From the catwalk these rehearsal rooms are strange looking far below.

There is also some really cool hallways that are on either side of the clock tower that are walkable and windowless where you can look down at people eating and look directly at the mural.

The catwalk I mentioned before went to the Tech booth and what was to be a VIP lounge that overlooked the inside Beer Garden. This area was themed and was/is used for special purposes.

If WDI decided to use this as a boat ride it would take less than a week to clear the rehearsal rooms out of there the way they are made.

I made the sing-along images which used to be part of the Beer Garden show.
 

brkgnews

Well-Known Member
RE: the VIP lounge in Biergarten... wasn't the original sponsor of the pavilion (or at least of Biergarten itself) supposed to have been Beck's?
 

Spike-in-Berlin

Well-Known Member
I think a german ride could still work out, however not as a tame ride like El Rio but more like maelstrom or even a downsized german Splash Mountain. Mountains and fairy tales/legends have a high value in German culture and folklore. Why not combine them in an adventurous and wild river ride? It could include several minor and one bigger plunge (although not as big as Splash Mountain) First it takes down a minor plunge into a German wood (Black Forest perhaps) where you see scenes from German fairy tales and the struggle of Siegfried and the dragon, this could be a first highlight with an AA firebreathing dragon. Then through and up a mountain (Blocksberg), watching the dwarves in their mines, pass a sleeping King Barbarossa and out again, onto the summit of the mountain and pass by a witch sabbath on Walpurgisnacht and see valkyries in the sky to the valkyries ride of Wagner. Then follows a big plunge down the mountain into the Rhine. You pass several castles standing high above on the surrounding mountains (and seem to see even some ghosts in the castles?) and see Siegfried on his Rheinfahrt again with the famous music from Wagners opera and pass the Lorelei. At the end it goes again down a plunge (Rheinfälle). Finally the ride becomes more tame and you pass through a collage of modern Germany, including famous German buildings like Cologne Cathedral, see an ICE-train passing on high speed and finally you are on the Spree River and passing the Reichstag in Berlin before the ride comes to an end.
Just my idea.
 

DisneyWales

Member
Rhine River rafts will never come as a log flume kind of ride, mainly because Maelstrom, two similar rides in the same area, yes theming and detailing maybe different, but in essence the experience to very close to each other.

Not that the ideas here arn't very good, just i cant see it happening any more with the current trends in Epcot.

A slow moving boat ride thru scenes is OK to be duplicated (i.e. pirates and small world), but again i hope they dont. Personally I hope that if something new comes to WS, I hope its something unique, not just something added for the sake of adding something.

After all you could do a river tour for the UK pavilion, a trip along London's Thames. Easy to do, some great things to see, but again not to exciting or very unique to WS. Same could also be said about Paris....!

Its a tough one, they could just go down the Fantasyland route, and make loads of slow-boat ride and dark rides, but there's nothing there that would bring in the big numbers.

I appreciate that it increases interest and capacity, but i think there are better ways.

I like the idea of the japanese Shinkansen that was in another thread the other day. It's unique, but also gives you a unique feel and look at Japanese culture.

Still I guess after almost 20 years without anything new, maybe something is better than nothing..............!
 

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