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Phroobar

Phroobar

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Mike S said:
I think this is really just human nature. I for example would never actually commit those things in reality, but you bet your butt I’d troll an AI program for comedic purposes if presented the opportunity. Disney better make sure a program like this is locked down tighter than Fort Knox before they use it with Mickey lol.
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Come on. They can barely sell you an annual pass without an hour wait.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Tha Realest said:
Yep. At the time of the sale they had dozens of Star Wars TV scripts in the can, as well as treatments for a sequel trilogy crafted by Michael Arndt.
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Those probably were awful…let’s be honest.
Hawkeye_2018 said:
I thought I read where Arndt was working on it but never completed it. He was either taking too long or just gave up which is whey they went in another direction.
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Arndt was listed as a writer for the farce awakens…he was given the hook sometime by the overlords

I’ve said it (many Times) that he gave an arrival to website for the writers guild that was posted when the movie came out…one detail left little doubt they were in big trouble.

And here we are 10 years later. With a winning percentage like the Cleveland Browns
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Phroobar said:
Lucas said they were complete. He was shopping the show around when Disney called. The game was also in development but was killed during the Disney ack.
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I heard the Underworld show was fully scripted but the production cost would have been too high.

Many of the scripts were repurposed into the animated series.
 
Hawkeye_2018

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Just watched ANH and ESB with my 10 year old. I can tell he didn't love ANH. But he did like ESB more than I expected. He Loved kooky Yoda. I haven't seen ESB in awhile and was impressed with how good it still looks. I'm confident he's going to enjoy ROTJ the most of the OT. Hopefully sometime this weekend will find time to watch it.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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Hawkeye_2018 said:
Just watched ANH and ESB with my 10 year old. I can tell he didn't love ANH. But he did like ESB more than I expected. He Loved kooky Yoda. I haven't seen ESB in awhile and was impressed with how good it still looks. I'm confident he's going to enjoy ROTJ the most of the OT. Hopefully sometime this weekend will find time to watch it.
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Empire still holds with its look…even moreso with Jedi
 
Heppenheimer

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Assuming that George Lucas had anything decent in his “treatments” is really extending the benefit of the doubt to the limits
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George Lucas was always best with broad outlines and story arcs, but he needed other people to write the dialogue and direct the actors. So, a "treatment" from him could have included some good material, it would have just needed to be worked out by someone with the right talent. Which obviously, is not what happened.
 
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Hawkeye_2018

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They must have really hated whatever story GL had. By using the GL treatments, they all could have shielded themselves from the inevitable angry fans
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Heppenheimer said:
George Lucas was always best with broad outlines and story arcs, but he needed other people to write the dialogue and direct the actors. So, a "treatment" from him could be included some good material, it would have just needed to be worked out by someone with the right talent. Which obviously, is not what happened.
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Perhaps…but his head really was never in the right place after the OT when it came to Star Wars…it was the money machine that took over

He did better with Indy I think largely due to it was more of a co-op arrangement
Hawkeye_2018 said:
They must have really hated whatever story GL had. By using the GL treatments, they all could have shielded themselves from the inevitable angry fans
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Are we forgetting the prequels were garbage and cause widespread fan revolt?

The problem is two fold:
1. Time heals all wounds…as in all of a sudden Hayden Christiansen is a hero cause it’s been along time since
2. The Disney stuff is such a red hot dumpster fire that it makes the others look less awful
 
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Serpico Jones

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Darth Maul and Darth Talon were the main villains in the George Lucas sequel trilogy storyline. Maul was hiding in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Coruscant was mostly abandoned after some type of destructive event that left the planet covered in smoke and with most of the buildings destroyed.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Serpico Jones said:
Darth Maul and Darth Talon were the main villains in the George Lucas sequel trilogy storyline. Maul was hiding in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Coruscant was mostly abandoned after some type of destructive event that left the planet covered in smoke and with most of the buildings destroyed.
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Yeah that sounds kinda stupid

More of the same from the all over the place whacky EU/prequel phase.

The reason why the OT worked…and still holds as we just discussed…is because it is mostly humans with familiar kinda conflicts…good vs bad…teacher- student…father-son…oppression - independence…power - free will

That’s how we’re wired here on this planet.

So more whizz bang…weird cultish side plots/tangents with lightsabers and makeup and gravity defying stuff…would have been prequels.
They’re not good no matter what.

So if Disney trashed those…I completely understand. Mistakes were made…everyone knows it.

But they had two other potential paths…and picked the wrong one.

I’ll never figure out until the day I go why this has been such a struggle? Go with what works…concentrate on the characters in a decent story framework.

That what just happened with andor. Not that hard
 
Hawkeye_2018

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Perhaps…but his head really was never in the right place after the OT when it came to Star Wars…it was the money machine that took over

He did better with Indy I think largely due to it was more of a co-op arrangement

Are we forgetting the prequels were garbage and cause widespread fan revolt?

The problem is two fold:
1. Time heals all wounds…as in all of a sudden Hayden Christiansen is a hero cause it’s been along time since
2. The Disney stuff is such a red hot dumpster fire that it makes the others look less awful
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Even in 2012, the overwhelming majority of SW fans would have been thrilled to have a SW film written and not directed by GL. The Clone Wars animated show had also restored some of the faith with fans that GL still knew how to tell good SW stories
 
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Serpico Jones

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I applauded the hiring of Abrams in early 2013 and thanked God that Lucas wasn’t involved. I agreed with every single decision Iger made during that time period. Then the leaks about script issues and various infighting between the different creatives started to leak out, then a few months later the cast was announced (which I found to be a largely underwhelming group) and then the entire plot of the movie leaked online which I read and also found to be lacking.

It’s literally a miracle that The Force Awakens turned out as good as it did and I say that understanding that the movie is heavily flawed and suffers from a lack of imagination.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Hawkeye_2018 said:
Even in 2012, the overwhelming majority of SW fans would have been thrilled to have a SW film written and not directed by GL. The Clone Wars animated show had also restored some of the faith with fans that GL still knew how to tell good SW stories
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Clone wars was better

But the hero cult of Lucas was pretty destroyed by 2012. His flaws were pretty well known

And since the backstory has come out as well. I am biased…after watching icons unearthed. If you haven’t watched…do it. It’s not designed to be a hit piece…but really does show the rudderless approach.

Star Wars in retrospect might be like a Disney park…run by buffoons behind the scenes but somehow became failure proof?
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Serpico Jones said:
I applauded the hiring of Abrams in early 2013 and thanked God that Lucas wasn’t involved. I agreed with every single decision Iger made during that time period. Then the leaks about script issues and various infighting between the different creatives started to leak out, then a few months later the cast was announced (which I found to be a largely underwhelming group) and then the entire plot of the movie leaked online which I read and also found to be lacking.

It’s literally a miracle that The Force Awakens turned out as good as it did and I say that understanding that the movie is heavily flawed and suffers from a lack of imagination.
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I am pretty simpatico with you here.

I thought the Disney buy was a slam dunk…they had really managed to deliver with MCU at that point and it was assumed they’d put the Star Wars gravy train back on the track.

But man…almost as big of a disaster as you could have considering Star Wars gets a Gigantic benefit of a doubt because of its history.

They really almost intentionally have failed. We hope that’s over…I have my worries/doubts

As far as the farce awakens goes…it was meh when the credits rolled…the fact they went nowhere after makes it terrible…and it gets worse everyday since. The master of reboots strikes in his most notorious effort.

The best part of the whole affair was the third teaser trailer…it was way more Star Wars than anything else that twerp put in the actual movie

 

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