Mike S
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True but by the end of the trilogy they made half of what the first made and it could be argued that the extremely mixed reception of the sequels contributed to light interest in a lot of the streaming content.
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Agent H
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Are you talking about the prequel trilogy?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Oh god no
The the nolan Batman movies. They used that line
By far…miles…the best comic book movies ever
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The 3 movies where a “money making disaster”
Just like the prequels.
Made box office…but reduced the appeal of all things Star Wars and stunted ancillary sales potential.
No crappy reboot should make $2 billion…as evidenced by the robust 37% and 43% drops in the others
Agent H
Well-Known Member
The quote is from a bugs life.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
The Prequels sold crazy merch though which the sequels didn’t?
Agent H
Well-Known Member
The fact that at the time no one liked return of the Jedi I feel kinda proves my point that people are fickle.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Which makes it even more evident that Awakens was more the outlier than the barometer, and that the other two are more in-line with the real numbers of where things sit.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
It’s not so much they didn’t like it, it was the yet unnamed bro culture that hated the Ewoks because they weren’t ugly enough.
There will always be jerks who have to ruin everything to make themselves sound better than they really know they are deep down.
Tony the Tigger
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Awakens was the first after a drought, and featured original cast.
Agent H
Well-Known Member
I hate bro culture.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Agreed, which is why I think it actually overperformed and thus isn't a good measuring stick by which to set expectations of what a SW movie should do in today's box office. The other two movies (and adding in Rogue One) being still over $1B seem more in-line with the performance that a franchise like this should be doing.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The prequels succeeded in sales because the entire consumer products industry “yielded the field” to them…because of the last effect of the OT.
Hell…one other move did well that summer - Austin powers: the spy that ged Me. They even ran previews in the theater making fun of the fact they were oppo Star Wars.
The merch deals were ransoms…and filled the void that was created by the hype
So those sold. The new stuff?
Bargain bin crap.
The consumer market has changed…but lack of demand is still the driving factor
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It has been acknowledged that Feigie had been stretched too thin in the streaming era between Disney Plus and theatrical…. Which is why iger cut down on the quantity of marvel products… so Feige could get more hands on in the way he was before Endgame…. Which I believe starts with Thunderbolts or after the films greenlit in the Chapec era
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They sucked
Collectively and individually
They “did well” because of the name on the marquee
Try to watch them now…they’re awful
Inexplicably bad. Gracie Abrams would have done a better job
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Is there anything Iger says you guys won’t believe?
They just over exploited marvel…which is Iger’s legacy pattern.
10 years from now (hopefully he has a DNR)…the opinion will be said: “why do we have six toy stories? Or 4 frozens? Or any new Star Wars?”
And that’s the right take
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
They loved return of the Jedi…all of them.
Ewoks aside.
It became fashionable in the 90’s to bag it…talk about how “awful” it was. It’s still top 3 most entertaining…and it holds up due to the cinematography and reliance on advanced (for the time) practical effects.
But what happened was two things;
1. The Internet created group think echo chambers
2. The prequels are bad…and prequel era fans needed a cover for them. Bagging on Jedi rose as the reality Lucas was off on the prequels hit home.
And what happened 15 years later? The prequels are much more well regarded now
Because “somebody” has since screwed up bigger.
You’ll find as you get older…people can’t hide their intentions…no matter how much they think your buying what they try to sell.
Disney fandom is about the best training ground to hone that skill.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Your opinion of course, others will vary.
The point being is that I think this idea that a SW movie must do $2B every time is a unrealistic expectation, one that admittedly Disney bought into also. Over $1B certainly, but over $2B being a must and that the drops seen by the other 2 is some indictment on the franchise is a bit overblown in my opinion. Rather, as mentioned, I think the other 2 (and Rogue One) are more in-line where the franchise should be performing if you take out the one outlier of Awakens.
Agent H
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I hate all the stuff he said about the marvels.