Galaxy's Edge vs. Pandora....

yensidtlaw1969

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SWGE will be by far the most popular thing Disney has ever done in any of their parks. This is why I believe Disneyland in CA has potential to surpass MK in Florida in attendance. And Hollywood studios will go from being known as the "half day park", to the one park that reaches capacity most often, at least for the next couple of years. Howvever, I agree with someone who said that FOP will likely probably be better than any ride coming to SWGE, but Pandora overall will be crushed by SWGE in popularity.
If Disney comes anywhere close to their intentions, both Star Wars rides should surpass Flight of Passage pretty noticeably.

Imagine if Flight of Passage was choose-your-own-adventure and you're nearing a similar premise to Millennium Falcon, ish.

Rise of the Resistance sounds like it will have every trick in the book - scads of screens buried in mountains of sets with dozens of animatronics. It should blow the roof off of FOP. Which I do enjoy.
 

Trackmaster

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If Disney comes anywhere close to their intentions, both Star Wars rides should surpass Flight of Passage pretty noticeably.

Imagine if Flight of Passage was choose-your-own-adventure and you're nearing a similar premise to Millennium Falcon, ish.

Rise of the Resistance sounds like it will have every trick in the book - scads of screens buried in mountains of sets with dozens of animatronics. It should blow the roof off of FOP. Which I do enjoy.

But FoP just had a little something else. There wasn't anything really groundbreaking, truth be told, its really just a 4-D movie experience. Its just a rare ride where it was executed well and everything just came together. We'll have to see how Star Wars actually does. Not that it will be bad, but FoP is just a tough act to follow.
 

Trackmaster

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FoP is an upgraded version of SOARIN. SOARIN on steroids.

All Starwarsland has to do at the bare minimum is have the FoP ride with the Star Wars footage and it would be a hit. Anything less than that and it will be a disappointment.

They're a similar ride system, but FoP just executes better. Star Wars may be one of the biggest franchises of all time, but Avatar is still the top grossing movie of all time. It had a built in fanbase too.
 

Trackmaster

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Avatar was a gimmick movie (new technology) that was put together well like the first Jurrassic Park. That's why it made alot of money. And the top grossing argument is deceptive.

Adjusted for inflation Star Wars made more money than Avatar.

Even based off one movie the following for Star Wars is much bigger than it ever was for a niche movie like Avatar.

No way. That's only counting domestic. It doesn't include international gross -- which is all that matters, every dollar is a good dollar -- and is what Avatar cleaned up on. And arguably, its pretty impressive when 21st century make a ton of money, considering that there is Netflix, pirating, On-Demand, and a lot of competition for your entertainment dollar. Going to the theater used to be the only way to watch movies decades, so you would expect the receipt totals adjusted for inflation to be higher than modern day totals.
 

righttrack

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Pandora reduces the load on Expedition Everest and the Kilimanjaro Safaris. I don't think you'll see this crossing over to other parks much. Animal Kingdom suffers from shorter hours, expansive park and relatively fewer things to do in it. I don't know if that park days people take will go up or down for Animal Kingdom or Hollywood Studios after SWGE compared to pre-construction park days in those parks. Right now, of course HS probably has seen a reduction in park days because of the construction and the closure of attractions to make way for it.
 

WDWmazprty

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FettFan

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Galaxy's Edge, duh.

Because, Carousel of Progress predicted it being successful.

"The folks at GE bring good things to life."
 

WDWmazprty

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What wait time records did any of these rides set? People have been waiting 4+ hours for rides since the turn of the 20th century in Coney Island. People have waited 5-6 hours in practically every generation. Calling two hours for Frozen record setting is pretty pathetic.


I just thought it was a funny meme. Not necessarily made for accuracy.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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So how's all this working out for you?

FoP going strong. SW not so much.
Seems like Millennium Falcon hasn't come close to Disney's intentions. Though I wonder if those alternating missions they announced but haven't implemented would have moved the needle at all.

Jury's still out on Rise of the Resistance, but word about town is still that it will feature every bell and whistle imaginable.

Working out fine for me, since none of this is my doing and no one predicted the Galaxy's Edges would underperform at opening the way they have. It's pretty wild.

Having now ridden both, I feel that MF somehow feels like less than the sum of its parts and FoP somehow feels like more.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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So are you saying you think FoP is done better than MF? I’ve still have yet to ride them.. hopefully I will soon enough.
Speaking as someone who has no meaningful connection to Star Wars or Avatar as IP, I think Flight of Passage is the attraction that leaves me feeling more satisfied at the end.

Figuratively (though I suppose also literally), of the two, FoP blows my hair back more than Smuggler's Run. Which I think surprises me a little, because of my very strong inclination towards practical experiences - they're both simulators, but Millennium Falcon is much more the practical experience of the two.

That said, I also don't think that Flight of Passage is the second coming that some people like to suggest it is - to me it is pretty far from "the best ride at WDW", though it is a very good one. So while I'd rate it higher than Smugglers Run as a gratifying attraction experience, I'd also rate them closer than I think a lot of people would.

But then, I also think Na'vi River Journey is a more worthwhile attraction than people give it credit for - though the ridiculous wait times set it up to disappoint, and I think it would have been tremendously improved by more animatronic creatures and a longer ride path. Though that could basically be said about anything.

I am deeply hoping that Rise of the Resistance is the second coming attraction that it purports to be. The "not-since-Pirates" talk is a lot to live up to. They've kept us fed for a while, but it's been a long time since they've given a real feast. By their standards, if this isn't the thing for which they deliver the kitchen sink, then what is? I'm pretty indefferent about Star Wars myself, but if Disney doesn't hit a home run with their big Star Wars Dark Ride I might lose faith in their ability to even do it anymore. And if they do, then my hope guests hold their feet to the fire and say "why haven't you been giving us more of THAT??"

It seems like a high-stakes attraction. One way or the other, how it succeeds will likely have a big, big impact on the future of the stateside parks.
 

SirWillow

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Finally got to experience Star Wars Galaxy's Edge this last week after visiting Pandora several times in the last year and a half. So finally feel like I can make a comparison. And for me at least, it's pretty easy to decide.

SWGE is a much better overall land than Pandora. And especially when you consider that it's not "finished" quite yet. There was a lot more to see, a lot more to experience, and a lot more to do.

Food? Star Wars already had more than Pandora does. Pandora has one place to eat. SWGE has 3- Docking Bay, Oga's and the Ronto Roasters in the marketplace.

Shopping? Star Wars has more, with the marketplace, Resistance booths, First Order shop, the Antiquities shop... and they are all really neat to walk around and just explore in. The one store in Pandora? it's just a store.

Rides? I give an edge to Flight of Passage over Falcon. But once Rise opens, this will be a no brainer. Falcon is far and away a superior experience to Navi River, and SWGE will have 2 E tickets vs 1 and a C ticket in Pandora. And the queue for Falcon blows away the long preshow on FoP

Then the overall atmosphere- the sights, the sounds, the smells, places to explore... There is so much to see, so many places to look

I haven't even mentioned the characters walking around... Pandora has one, sometimes, with their walker doing a show. SWGE, even on it's reduced deal, has Chewbacca, Rey, storm troopers and first order officers walking around and interacting. No contest on that.

And I haven't mentioned the experiences- droid building, light saber building... overpriced? Yes. But still immensely cool. And you can watch/ experience the droid building without having to actually do it.

SWGE already has so much more than Pandora in it. Pandora with no rides I'm done in an hour, maybe 2. SWGE with no rides we spent 3/4 of a day exploring on our 5 day trip and wished we had more. Then you add in the attractions on top... no brainer for me. Star Wars over Pandora, easy.
 

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