NowInc
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No...but many states do require that you have ID with you at all times....including Florida.
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Thanks! I live in Florida and I know I've heard that said a lot. I just wasn't sure if it was federal or not
No...but many states do require that you have ID with you at all times....including Florida.
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Going anywhere without your ID is a very bad idea.
Money...credit cards...not IDWhile it may be a bad idea people do it. this is what magic bands were designed for. So you can leave everything in the room and not worry about carrying anything.
How about easy identification in the event of illness or injury? What about possible needs for health insurance information? How about needing for some unforeseen reason to fully identify yourself? how about needing to prove that you are who the magic band says you are?While it may be a bad idea people do it. this is what magic bands were designed for. So you can leave everything in the room and not worry about carrying anything.
I don't know about anyone else but I have never once left home thinking that I had to have an ID or I'll get arrested. What company do you keep anyway? ID's have many purposes and one of the biggest is to protect you. I have listed many reasons why, I'm not going to repeat them.A person cannot be arrested just for failing to identify himself or failing to have ID, even with a lawful detention. It is NOT interfering with an officer. The only effect of not having ID occurs if a police officer has probable cause to believe an arrestee has committed a criminal offense. A police officer who could otherwise give an arrestee a citation to appear would instead take the person into custody to appear before a magistrate. But this is ONLY if the officer has probable cause to believe the person has committed a crime--NOT just because the person did not have ID.
Knowmyrights.org. It lists all kinds of info on there.
First I would like to say that it is so nice that your Father is well enough to vacation with his mobility defect. Park hopping with a disabled person is quite and task. I won't do it with my 7 and 9 year olds. Maybe eliminating the park hopper may help your situation.Okay, I wanted to post this since we've had MANY discussions about it
Just got back from my vacation, we got the card at EPCOT for my father this past week (he had a stroke, basically can't ride anything where he has to transfer from the chair) and never even used it there. Never had to. Each greeter took care of him, and the others ushered him right on the attraction and never asked to see anything. All of them, to the last man and woman, were VERY helpful.
MK... the exact opposite. It was a nightmare. Not to mention that the majority of the CM's sucked and it was unusually crowded. I swear, if you knew the work it takes to get through that park with a disabled family member, from the multiple monorails (especially at night and you're parked at EPCOT... no cutting across right to your monorail, you've got to go down the ramp and back up another) to the morons who want to stop right in front of you when you're pushing a 210 pound man down an incline, and all the crap you have to go through just to get through the walkways of that park... I'm sure the picture many people get when waiting in line of what you assume is an easy time people have with that card is very, very, very, VERY different than the reality. And I barely used it.
I specifically looked for people who might look like they're faking and I honestly didn't see anyone who looked obvious, but that doesn't mean much as I'm sure it happens all the time and many people have seen it (or assumed to, it's hard to tell sometimes). It was horribly crowded on the MK day and there just weren't that many people using the card. But I saw a lot of adult men with Autism whose families deserve a lot of credit for handling them as expertly as they do. Wow. My hat is off to them and I totally understand where they're coming from with the need for that card. I think it's safe to say more people who need it are using it than the abusers from what I saw.
The new system and DAS... I don't really understand it. A lot of the CM's I asked didn't understand it, either. If they're going to make people use it like a fast pass for each attraction, where you have to go to different kiosks, that's just friggin stupid. If that's your best answer for stopping fraud, you need a better plan and it's just lazy to make it hard on everyone who isn't faking anything. Seriously. I just hope they keep the handicap entrances because they were a life saver. It's a chore to get through a day like that without some help from the parks, man.
First I would like to say that it is so nice that your Father is well enough to vacation with his mobility defect. Park hopping with a disabled person is quite and task. I won't do it with my 7 and 9 year olds. Maybe eliminating the park hopper may help your situation.
What a really wanted to say is stated that the CM don't understand the new program is BS. If anyone thinks for a minute that the CM were told not to discuss the new program with any visitors they really haven't thought the process through.
Also I thought the problem with Autistic visitors from their families words is that they don't look disabled. It amazes me that you were so good at pointing these people out.
I can understand your frustration about people stopping and having no courtesy but that happens to everyone daily.
I really like this idea. The card is for the disabled not for the whole family. If the person disabled can't ride Space Mountain, there's no need for the rest of the family to enter that line.The new card also has some rules and stuff that cast will know and wont be shared. An example being the photo id. If you opt out, you have to show one or some other proof. Even for a minor. The legal guardian will have to sign the card and an id will have to match that. If the card is also for a child, the age might be written upon the card especially one that wont meet certain height requirements. The person on the card also has to meet those boarding requirements. If they dont, they wont be admitted even to accompany people inside and wait off to the side.
I keep seeing that there is no federal law that requires US citizens to carry proper I.D at all times. However, based on the provisions on The Real ID Act of 2005, you are required to carry your ID to vote, entering a federal building, driving a vehicle or a passenger on a commercial airline.
That map comes from Stop and identify statutes. "Stop and identify" statutes are laws in the United States that allow police to detain persons and request such persons to identify themselves, and arrest them if they do not.
What the United States Supreme Court held in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court (2004) 542 U.S. 177, was that a state could make it a crime for a person to refuse to identify himself (i.e., tell the officer his name and address) when lawfully detained for criminal activity. Note that the Supreme Court did NOT say that any kind of identification papers could be required, nor did they say that police officers could ordinarily arrest someone for refusing to identify himself absent a state law permitting that arrest. There is no law in the United States requiring everybody to carry ID.
A person cannot be arrested just for failing to identify himself or failing to have ID, even with a lawful detention. It is NOT interfering with an officer. The only effect of not having ID occurs if a police officer has probable cause to believe an arrestee has committed a criminal offense. A police officer who could otherwise give an arrestee a citation to appear would instead take the person into custody to appear before a magistrate. But this is ONLY if the officer has probable cause to believe the person has committed a crime--NOT just because the person did not have ID.
Knowmyrights.org. It lists all kinds of info on there.
As if I needed more reasons to hate state troopers.In fact, I just took a class taught by a Florida state trooper, and he said that he and his co-workers regularly arrest people for not having any i.d. on them. He said that some of them (troopers) actually enjoy it when people try to challenge them about it.
No. You do not need to carry ID.Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a federal law that all people over the age of 16 (or is it 18) must carry a government approved ID?
Be an idiot....leave your ID at home
As if I needed more reasons to hate state troopers.
"I'm going to arrest you for a pointless reason because I can and there's nothing you can do about it! I could be out actually helping and making a difference, but nah, I'll just push people around."
The website may say that, but I live in Florida, and we are always told that it is illegal to walk around without an i.d.
In fact, I just took a class taught by a Florida state trooper, and he said that he and his co-workers regularly arrest people for not having any i.d. on them. He said that some of them (troopers) actually enjoy it when people try to challenge them about it
I think I'll just take his word for it and carry my i.d.
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