Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[Mike S]

I haven't heard anything, but I think Disney would be wise to take a portion of New Fantasyland, the dead space between Be Our Guest and Little Mermaid and turn that into a Frozen ride.
A few things I think they would need in that ride:
1) Tell a good story. They do an okay job with Little Mermaid but they are lacking in the truly dramatic part of the story...which leads to....
2) The Giant Snow Monster from Frozen HAS to be giant. Ursula needed to become Giant Ursula in the Little Mermaid ride, but Disney missed a golden opportunity to recapture the drama of the story. The Giant Snow Monster should be in the new Frozen Ride and be just a bit scary to add that thrill...then have him get beaten. Little kids love to see an enemy vanquished.
3) Of course it has to have the songs because that's a huge draw
4) It MUST get really really cold on the ride when Elsa gets her frozen on....We want the FEEL the cold. And it would make it even more popular in the super hot months in Orlando.
5) Then it has to warm up near the end when conflict is resolved...obviously.
5a) OH.....and a nice little touch....either have it actually SNOW on the ride, or at the end have Elsa say goodbye and give us a little final dose of her magic and have it snow a little when we leave.
6) We need to see a little bit of action and fun with the AA's.
7) A REAL moving AA of Olaf. Not this ham-handed crappy Olaf projected on a movie screen like they are doing for the Frozen Fun celebration. We want a fully AA Olaf. And with all of the moving parts, loose joints and flexibility of Olaf, they could do some ground breaking AA work on a new Olaf. That's something I would like to see so I can ask "How did they do that?"
8) We need to see the Elsa's Frozen Castle on the ride...of course....but I would love to look up in the distance between BOG and Prince Eric's and see a forced perspective Elsa Frozen Castle in the distance. Imagine the glowing ice castle atop a snow covered mountain peak. I think that would be absolutely beautiful.

Just my thoughts.

I detailed my idea for a ride around two months ago when I first joined the site. http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/my-idea-for-a-frozen-ride.884457/ I think it has some of the elements you're looking for.

 

[WildcatDen]

A ride in TusenFryd.

That sounds dirty.

Speaking of dirty, funny line from one of the Disney Junior Small Potato's episodes where they are on a farm, one of the character's says, in their best British accent, "I like being dirty. . ." Classic. Maybe a Small Potato's presence in the UK would be a good thing?

 

[FrankLapidus]

Not saying they should change anything about the current show except the now somewhat dated ending which needs updating. I am saying they have the tech now to create a reimagined show that is more family oriented that shows during daytime hours.

Every year I see plenty of families enjoying the show together, irrespective of age. Aside from being entertaining its educative, there is absolutely nothing dated about it and nothing that families can't all enjoy together.

It doesn't need to be reimagined or changed in any way, if there are parents who want a different experience for their children then there are plenty of other shows on property that offer that. The American Adventure is timeless and should be left well alone.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

just put frozen in IASW

 

[jt04]

Every year I see plenty of families enjoying the show together, irrespective of age. Aside from being entertaining its educative, there is absolutely nothing dated about it and nothing that families can't all enjoy together.

It doesn't need to be reimagined or changed in any way, if there are parents who want a different experience for their children then there are plenty of other shows on property that offer that. The American Adventure is timeless and should be left well alone.

Again, I want the real original show restored without the dated 90's add on.

But I think a new version could also be offered that younger guests can relate to and learn a bit of history during the day. The current show does not provide that consistently as it is slow in spots and quite serious in others. Certainly much of the content is over the head of younger guests.

The show could be shortened and more relatable aspects added. Walt Disney created a lot of patriotic media for children and they should use that for inspiration. IMO.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It has already had "characters" added. Some of which the vast numbers of guests do not recognize.

Making a dual show that younger audiences can appreciate and making American history more accessible to them seems like a natural fit for a Disney theme park. Heck, they almost built an entire resort in Virginia based on the concept called "Disney's America".

So a "Disney's America" type show in the day and the traditional show at night seems workable to me. They should do in park surveys since these forums do not necessarily reflect broader public opinion.

You should resarch the concept called "Disney's America".

It is clear you have not researched Disney's America.

 

[CDavid]

Not saying they should change anything about the current show except the now somewhat dated ending which needs updating. I am saying they have the tech now to create a reimagined show that is more family oriented that shows during daytime hours.

I know I'm going to regret asking this, but exactly how is the current show not "family oriented"?

The saga of American history does not need to be 'dumbed down' with 'toons for children. That's simply ludicrous. Are you suggesting that kids today are less intelligent or less capable of understanding than were children of two or three decades ago? The presentation certainly wasn't 'over the heads' of young people back in the 1980's.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

I know I'm going to regret asking this, but exactly how is the current show not "family oriented"?

The saga of American history does not need to be 'dumbed down' with 'toons for children. That's simply ludicrous. Are you suggesting that kids today are less intelligent or less capable of understanding than were children of two or three decades ago? The presentation certainly wasn't 'over the heads' of young people back in the 1980's.

I wouldn't even discount that. WDW does attract a slightly different audience today...

 

[FrankLapidus]

Again, I want the real original show restored without the dated 90's add on.

But I think a new version could also be offered that younger guests can relate to and learn a bit of history during the day. The current show does not provide that consistently as it is slow in spots and quite serious in others. Certainly much of the content is over the head of younger guests.

The show could be shortened and more relatable aspects added. Walt Disney created a lot of patriotic media for children and they should use that for inspiration. IMO.

What is in the show that younger guests can't relate to or learn about American history from? Benjamin Franklin? Mark Twain? The horror of the Civil War told through the story of a family who were torn apart by it? Slavery? America's role in World War II? You're making an assumption, nothing more, and using it as a basis for butchering a classic attraction.

The show covers such events as the American Civil War and World War II so parts of the show are going to be serious, it shouldn't be sugar-coated or rushed through in any way.

The American Adventure is as as patriotic as you can get, I'm not even an American and that music and montage put tears in my eyes every single time, I feel a sense of pride that I shouldn't but that's the effect that the show has.

Your suggestions for "improving" AA equate to nothing more than dumbing it down.

 

[Bocabear]

I agree... It is a complex story, and I believe this attraction does a great job at telling the tale as quickly as can be told, hitting the high notes in history, and tugging some heart strings... It always makes me feel inspired and proud to be an American.....And while none of us can truly know what "Walt would do", I believe this attraction is something he would be very proud of...it is the continuation of his work with Mr. Lincoln...It was truly inspired by Walt's legacy of patriotism.

 

[Bocabear]

And for the record, Disney's America was not a Character Fest...it was a more serious approach...much like The American Adventure with some attractions added.

 

[Mike S]

What is in the show that younger guests can't relate to or learn about American history from? Benjamin Franklin? Mark Twain? The horror of the Civil War told through the story of a family who were torn apart by it? Slavery? America's role in World War II? You're making an assumption, nothing more, and using it as a basis for butchering a classic attraction.

The show covers such events the American Civil War and World War II so parts of the show are going to be serious, it shouldn't be sugar-coated or rushed through in any way.

The American Adventure is as as patriotic as you can get, I'm not even an American and that music and montage put tears in my eyes every single time, I feel a sense of pride that I shouldn't but that's the effect that the show has.

Your suggestions for "improving" AA equate to nothing more than dumbing it down.

The show is unenjoyable to kids because clearly it needs to be hosted by Woody to hold their small attention spans. He's a Cowboy so he fits right in!!!!!!!!

 

[ToTBellHop]

Again, I want the real original show restored without the dated 90's add on.

But I think a new version could also be offered that younger guests can relate to and learn a bit of history during the day. The current show does not provide that consistently as it is slow in spots and quite serious in others. Certainly much of the content is over the head of younger guests.

The show could be shortened and more relatable aspects added. Walt Disney created a lot of patriotic media for children and they should use that for inspiration. IMO.

So Disney in 2014 needs to talk down in its guests where it didn't need to in 1982? Children can be raised to have an appreciation for the aesthetics. Surprisingly, there are some 7-year olds who enjoy art galleries and the like.

 

[ElvisMickey]

I couldn't agree more. I was 5 years old when EPCOT Center first opened and I loved everything about it, even as a kid. Whether it was The American Adventure, Horizons, Spaceship Earth, etc., the combination of learning, history, culture and Disney was just awesome. The way Disney presented these attractions made me want to learn more about history, the future, communication. I love visiting historic sites today and I know that attractions like the Hall Of Presidents and The American Adventure helped mold my interest in that. I also know that many on these boards feel the same exact way about EPCOT. It's been said over and over and over again on here...EPCOT doesn't need characters dumbing down every attraction to please the simple minded guest. If anything, EPCOT needs to be brought back to its former glory...become innovative again. It's bad enough that Frozen will most likely wind up in Maelstrom, let alone one of the best attractions that Disney has ever created in The American Adventure being destroyed by adding characters to it. There's a park with dwindling attendance and lack of attractions sitting practically across the road from EPCOT over in Hollywood Studios. That's where a Frozen attraction needs to be added...something other than cupcakes, merchandise and dance parties.

 

[Bocabear]

and BTW, what is the "Dated 90s add on"? adding more images to the final song? I think that is the only thing that has been touched from the beginning...Continuing to add images as our history unfolds...

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

The first (and easiest) thing WDW needs to do to add to the Frozen presence in the park is add "Let It Go" to Philharmagic. It would add something new to the attraction (which I already love), and it would also draw more people to it (redistribution of crowds). They should also add an actual attraction (preferably in Fantasyland), but this would be a good first step.

 

[aladdin2007]

I couldn't agree more. I was 5 years old when EPCOT Center first opened and I loved everything about it, even as a kid. Whether it was The American Adventure, Horizons, Spaceship Earth, etc., the combination of learning, history, culture and Disney was just awesome. The way Disney presented these attractions made me want to learn more about history, the future, communication. I love visiting historic sites today and I know that attractions like the Hall Of Presidents and The American Adventure helped mold my interest in that. I also know that many on these boards feel the same exact way about EPCOT. It's been said over and over and over again on here...EPCOT doesn't need characters dumbing down every attraction to please the simple minded guest. If anything, EPCOT needs to be brought back to its former glory...become innovative again. It's bad enough that Frozen will most likely wind up in Maelstrom, let alone one of the best attractions that Disney has ever created in The American Adventure being destroyed by adding characters to it. There's a park with dwindling attendance and lack of attractions sitting practically across the road from EPCOT over in Hollywood Studios. That's where a Frozen attraction needs to be added...something other than cupcakes, merchandise and dance parties.

Well said!!! Count me in your camp, feel the same way and grew up the same way with Epcot. Man I am liking this post the more I read it, sums it up perfectly!

 

[Tony Perkis]

Disney doesn't and shouldn't feel the need to appeal to the lowest common denominator and/or go after the youngest possible audience with every attraction by adding Disney characters to everything.

 

[FutureCEO]

The American Adventure is probably the best thing in World Showcase, what you're suggesting is the very last thing it needs.

I think I puked the dinner I'm about to have


To be fair...amazing AA's and ride system underneath the theater. But the show is boring and too patriotic which sounds like another show in another park

 

[Matt_Black]

To be fair...amazing AA's and ride system underneath the theater. But the show is boring and too patriotic which sounds like another show in another park

Too patriotic? For shame.