"Frozen" coming to Disneyland?

mharrington

mharrington

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I had just seen a video from Offhand Disney about how the PeopleMover could possibly return to Disneyland somehow and the announcement of such at D23:


At one point, the video goes off on a tangent about the updates to some of Fantasyland's rides, talking about how some rides, but not all, have received special effects upgrades, that Mr. Toad and Pinocchio were among those still without such. The video then announces that the "Frozen" experiences being announced for the show floor at the upcoming D23 may very well be a "Frozen" mini-land of some kind. According to Offhand Disney, the mysterious video of the Motor Boat Cruise by Scott Trowbridge may not be for the PeopleMover at all, but for said "Frozen" mini-land.

I'm not sure if the space is big enough for even a mini-land of this kind, and I'm not sure I want this to happen, especially since I have a feeling that either Mr. Toad or Pinocchio could very well be replaced by something "Frozen"-related. I believe (hope, even) that the "Frozen" experiences being announced are in fact for those brand-new lands coming to Paris and Hong Kong.

What do you think?
 
Disney Irish

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It’s an interesting idea just because it’ll do something with the motor boat area. But I’d rather have a different IP used if they really were to put some attraction there.
 
mharrington

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Disney Irish said:
It’s an interesting idea just because it’ll do something with the motor boat area. But I’d rather have a different IP used if they really were to put some attraction there.
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If they were just doing something with the Motor Boat Cruise area, that wouldn't be so bad, but I have a feeling that the dark rides (at least either Mr. Toad or Pinocchio) may be impacted in some way by this if it does happen.

As it is, the Motor Boat Cruise alone is really too small to do anything with it, let alone anything "Frozen"-related. Here's a rough estimate of the footprint size (a little over 800 feet):
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Compare that with the space for the Frozen boat ride in Epcot, which is somewhat comparable and even a bit smaller than the Motor Boat Cruise area, but that doesn't take into account not just the People Mover track, but also those of the Monorail and Autopia:
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Frankly, I'm more worried about the Pinocchio ride being scrapped for a ride like this. Let's face it, it has scenes of tobacco and children-as-donkeys being sold off. It would give credence to the old rumor from Inside the Magic that the Pinocchio ride should be scrapped because of those.

What's more, I would say that between the upcoming overhaul of Splash Mountain and the ongoing overhaul of Toontown, Disneyland has plenty of stuff to keep itself busy without the need for "Frozen" stuff, especially if you throw Tomorrowland into the mix there.
 
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Too Many Hats

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I’d welcome a Frozen attraction in that underutilized corner of the park. I think the icy/snowy aesthetic of the ride itself and the Nordic architecture of the exterior/queue would fit well adjacent to the Matterhorn. I don’t necessarily care for the IP, but I think the icy/snowy environment is a missing puzzle piece in a park that currently transports guests to the jungle, the old West, the future, the bayou, underwater, outer space, etc.

I can’t see Frozen replacing Pinocchio or Toad.
 
DLR92

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I don’t think Pinocchio or Mr. Toad is on the chopping blocks. It Autopia and perhaps Finding Nemo.
 
Brer Panther

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Whenever I bring up the possibility of Mr. Toad being replaced over its potentially "problematic" elements, everyone acts like Disney would never touch it. If Splash Mountain isn't safe, there's no way Mr. Toad or Pinocchio are safe.

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually wind up retheming the Matterhorn to Frozen, though.
 
Rich T

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Brer Panther said:
Whenever I bring up the possibility of Mr. Toad being replaced over its potentially "problematic" elements, everyone acts like Disney would never touch it. If Splash Mountain isn't safe, there's no way Mr. Toad or Pinocchio are safe.

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually wind up retheming the Matterhorn to Frozen, though.
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Toad should be safe because the Tulgey Wood scene of Alice in Wonderland is built on top of it, and it takes up very little space. It also forms an England mini-land along with Pan and the Carousel…and also segues beautifully into the also-British Wonderland area (though I’d be amazed if anyone currently in charge at Disney is aware of that).

I’d be worried about Pinocchio, but that Tom Hanks film is due soon, so it *should* be safe for a bit longer.
 
cookiee_munster

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Brer Panther said:
Whenever I bring up the possibility of Mr. Toad being replaced over its potentially "problematic" elements, everyone acts like Disney would never touch it. If Splash Mountain isn't safe, there's no way Mr. Toad or Pinocchio are safe.

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually wind up retheming the Matterhorn to Frozen, though.
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After watching the Offhand Disney video I did wonder whether the Matterhorn was going to either get some kind of frozen retheme OR a complete replacement with a new mountain/structure and new bob sleds/sleighs like what's going in Hong Kong.
 
Brer Panther

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Rich T said:
Toad should be safe because the Tulgey Wood scene of Alice in Wonderland is built on top of it, and it takes up very little space. It also forms an England mini-land along with Pan and the Carousel…and also segues beautifully into the also-British Wonderland area (though I’d be amazed if anyone currently in charge at Disney is aware of that).

I’d be worried about Pinocchio, but that Tom Hanks film is due soon, so it *should* be safe for a bit longer.
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I wouldn't put anything past Disney.
 
Californian Elitist

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Brer Panther said:
Whenever I bring up the possibility of Mr. Toad being replaced over its potentially "problematic" elements, everyone acts like Disney would never touch it. If Splash Mountain isn't safe, there's no way Mr. Toad or Pinocchio are safe.

I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually wind up retheming the Matterhorn to Frozen, though.
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Who is “everyone?”

Again, nothing is 100% safe.
 
Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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Rich T said:
I like the Ice Cube song. 🙁 It’s sure better than “Fixer Upper.”
…Though, of course, anything is better than Fixer Upper…
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“Fixer Upper” is undoubtedly the worst song on the soundtrack. To be honest, the only song I like from the soundtrack is “Reindeer(s) Are Better Than People,” but I don’t like it enough to listen to it all the time. I don’t even know the lyrics to that song.

In terms of the opening, personally, I feel if a movie is going to open with a song, that song should grab my attention. Unfortunately, “Frozen Heart” did not. It’s no match against “Circle of Life,” “Bells of Notre Dame,” “Deliver Us,” which is arguably the greatest opening number ever, or even “Gospel Truth.” “Frozen Heart” never pulled me in. Neither did “Let It Go,” which many of us heard before the movie released in World of Color’s first Christmas version (can’t remember the name). I wasn’t impressed then, and I thought maybe the rest of the songs will be good. Nope.

I know the soundtrack has many fans, though!
 

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