Frozen at Disney's Hollywood Studios for the summer?

71jason

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Usually its right before the fireworks. Like 9-ish... someone would have to dig through the WDWMagic news archive to double check tho.

Past couple years it's been in the evening, but going back 7 - 8 years ago, I remember early afternoon closings. Of course, if it rained, that usually would result in a re-opening for at least a couple hours.

As for whether or not Frozen is evergreen, still too early to tell, but it sure feels like it will be. A once-a-generation thing. Elsa has replaced Belle as the #1 princess you see around the parks--that's as great a sign as any that the property has connected on a level I don't think anyone expected.

BTW, I think the movie is, if anything, underrated. There's nuances on later viewings I missed the first time because I was too busy mentally comparing it to the Katzenburg era films. But it uses those tropes to give you a false sense of security, make you think you know what's coming, before completely up-ending all those tropes. Also, while no doubt "Let It Go" remains a solid song--haters be damned--"Build a Snowman" was robbed of the Oscar. And all the songs work better together, almost as a cycle, then as individual pieces. In other words, overexposed or not, a brilliant film I can see generations to come knowing by heart.
 

RSoxNo1

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Cars was not the highest grossing animated film of all time. It was almost considered a "flop" by Pixar standards, the only thing that saved it was it became a successful merchandise franchise. Cars is barely comparable to Frozen's success.
Cars is incredibly popular from a merchandise standpoint and home movie follow ups. They are both incredibly popular franchises with kids.
 

RSoxNo1

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I am too. Alas.... youre talking about guests that booked 6-8 months ago and are now visiting while the kids are out of school. Thats the demographic we're trying to get.

Gotta think big picture and see the entire forest.

Is 'Frozen' an evergreen property? Maybe. Time will tell. I think so. I cant stand this property but I say green light an entire Arrondale in the back of DHS. Make Frozenland. Make it and include some of the overhangs and glass/steel ceilings that cover parts of DA. Its gonna last and if they build it to the level of Carsland, it will make an insane return.
This poses a general question for the fan community. In a perfectly themed world do the "new" fairytales like Tangled and Frozen belong in Fantasyland or in Hollywood Studios. Perhaps the better question is that should Fantasyland by reserved exclusively for hand drawn animation properties? Does that matter?
 

RSoxNo1

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The increase in DHS attendance will come at the expense of DAK's attendance though.
It will be interesting to see if the two month Frozen push is enough to have DHS move past DAK in attendance.

I'll throw this out there... Is the cost to run this party for 2 months more or less than the cost to fix the Yeti? There have been people on here that claim the Yeti can be fixed without closing the attraction. Would a fully functional yeti be a comparable attendance boost or will that just result in stagnant attendance but higher guest satisfaction?
 

cw1982

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This poses a general question for the fan community. In a perfectly themed world do the "new" fairytales like Tangled and Frozen belong in Fantasyland or in Hollywood Studios. Perhaps the better question is that should Fantasyland by reserved exclusively for hand drawn animation properties? Does that matter?

IMO, it depends on how they're being represented. If we're talking rides, the princessy fairy tales should go in FL. If it's a show, then a setup like BatB and TLM makes sense at HS, since those are live performances and go well with the idea of Hollywood.
 

Mike S

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IMO, it depends on how they're being represented. If we're talking rides, the princessy fairy tales should go in FL. If it's a show, then a setup like BatB and TLM makes sense at HS, since those are live performances and go well with the idea of Hollywood.
I'm actually starting to like the idea of Frozen in Hollywood Studios. Unlike Magic Kingdom there's plenty of space to take out something (SoA) and easily build a whole land with multiple rides. Then Frozen crowds could be diverted away from Magic Kingdom and increase attendance at another park that needs it more. It makes so much sense it'll probably never happen.
 

Next Big Thing

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It will be interesting to see if the two month Frozen push is enough to have DHS move past DAK in attendance.

I'll throw this out there... Is the cost to run this party for 2 months more or less than the cost to fix the Yeti? There have been people on here that claim the Yeti can be fixed without closing the attraction. Would a fully functional yeti be a comparable attendance boost or will that just result in stagnant attendance but higher guest satisfaction?
I honestly don't think most tourists care if the Yeti is working. I doubt it'd be much of a driver.
 

cw1982

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I'm actually starting to like the idea of Frozen in Hollywood Studios. Unlike Magic Kingdom there's plenty of space to take out something (SoA) and easily build a whole land with multiple rides. Then Frozen crowds could be diverted away from Magic Kingdom and increase attendance at another park that needs it more. It makes so much sense it'll probably never happen.

I see the benefit of alleviating some of the MK crowd, but honestly I just don't think a whole land works with the theme of HS... at least not as much as it would at MK. I like the idea of a Star Wars land at HS far better than a Frozen land there.

Besides, Frozen, while super hyped up right now, has yet to prove itself as something that will be popular enough to warrant such a land by the time it would open, I would think devoting an entire "land" to it as a long-term investment might not be the best move. I think having a long-term nod to the movie in the form of a show or even an extra meet and greet makes sense at HS, but definitely not an entire land.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
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The loser if Disney does not get the fireworks is their main supplier. Disney is the largest purchaser of fireworks in the country. If I had their contract I would put them first even if that means breaking some other smaller contracts. You have to take care of your best customer. Disney will get what ever they need you can count on it.
Incorrect.
 

Mike S

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I see the benefit of alleviating some of the MK crowd, but honestly I just don't think a whole land works with the theme of HS... at least not as much as it would at MK. I like the idea of a Star Wars land at HS far better than a Frozen land there, particularly given that Frozen, while super hyped up right now, has yet to prove itself as something that will be popular enough to warrant such a land by the time it would open. I think having a long-term nod to the movie in the form of a show or even an extra meet and greet makes sense at HS, but definitely not an entire land.
I see where you're coming from but I think the best thing to do with Hollywood Studios would be to sort of take inspiration from what Universal Studios did with Springfield and Diagon Alley. Immerse people in the worlds of the IP and move away from the studio theme. Disney could easily do this with Pixar, Frozen and Star Wars in Hollywood Studios. To be perfectly honest though I would be fine with anything that involves keeping Maelstrom.
 

Ignohippo

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Maybe since JK Rowling won't allow a Potter meet and greet, they should shut down both Potter lands?

MK will be the place for the meet and greet, while DHS will be a Frozen summer party. I think it works to help spread the Frozen crowds out.


Two TOTALLY different things. Very few people go to Uni expecting to meet Harry Potter. And, as many have said, they're face characters, so meeting different people would be very strange. With Disney, these things are expected. Not only that, but Anna and Elsa WILL be doing M&Gs – just not at the park where a huge event will be taking place celebrating them and their movie.

Only having them at MK, while the celebration of the film is at DHS, wreaks of either greed or cheapness – not sure which one it is.
 

Ignohippo

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It will be interesting to see if the two month Frozen push is enough to have DHS move past DAK in attendance.

I'll throw this out there... Is the cost to run this party for 2 months more or less than the cost to fix the Yeti? There have been people on here that claim the Yeti can be fixed without closing the attraction. Would a fully functional yeti be a comparable attendance boost or will that just result in stagnant attendance but higher guest satisfaction?


No one cares about the Yeti besides us Disney fanbois. The attendance boost for a working Yeti would be negligible (especially after the first couple of weeks).
 

cw1982

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I see where you're coming from but I think the best thing to do with Hollywood Studios would be to sort of take inspiration from what Universal Studios did with Springfield and Diagon Alley. Immerse people in the worlds of the IP and move away from the studio theme. Disney could easily do this with Pixar, Frozen and Star Wars in Hollywood Studios. To be perfectly honest though I would be fine with anything that involves keeping Maelstrom.

If they were to completely move away from the Hollywood theme might would be fine, but I don't see that happening, at least not any time in the foreseeable future. Then again, Pixar and Star Wars are each both so much bigger than Frozen, at least in terms of historical success, that putting Frozen on the same playing field as an entire genre, if you will, of films in the Pixar lineup or the entire Star Wars franchise seems to seriously demean Pixar and Star Wars on some level imo. If Frozen proves its stability over time, perhaps maybe... but even then, I just don't see it. Maybe it's because I'm sick of Frozen. Who knows...

I do agree that the Maelstrom overlay would be a bad idea, if it turns out the way it's rumored to do.
 

Ignohippo

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I see the benefit of alleviating some of the MK crowd, but honestly I just don't think a whole land works with the theme of HS... at least not as much as it would at MK. I like the idea of a Star Wars land at HS far better than a Frozen land there.

Besides, Frozen, while super hyped up right now, has yet to prove itself as something that will be popular enough to warrant such a land by the time it would open, I would think devoting an entire "land" to it as a long-term investment might not be the best move. I think having a long-term nod to the movie in the form of a show or even an extra meet and greet makes sense at HS, but definitely not an entire land.


I could not agree more. Frozen is a perfect fit for MK, but weird for DHS – just as Star Wars is perfect for DHS but would be out of place IMO for MK.

I would hate to see a permanent Frozen land be added to DHS when there are so many other properties Disney owns that would be perfect (Monsters, Incredibles, Star Wars, Cars, Planes, Toon Town, etc.).

If anything, tear out CircusLand and build Frozen there, expanding Fantasyland the way it always should have been. If you need to find a new place for Dumbo, move it to DAK. A CircusLand would be much better there than at MK anyway. Heck, they could even change the Dinosaur area to a circus theme without much effort at all.
 

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