MK Frontierland Shootin' arcade to close and replaced with DVC Member lounge

[ohioguy]

Hall of Presidents isn't going anywhere, and neither is Liberty Square. Tom Swayer's Island has been an attraction they have looked at cutting for years. I don't see this one as a loss.

Between the river and the island, that's a huge chunk of land ripe for revision. I love Tom Sawyer Island, but understand the need to utilize space for the most visitors.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Ok, this is a serious question.....what is it about Frontierland/Pecos Bill's that is so problematic? Even though I don't agree with it, I know what the Shootin' Arcade problem is (guns, bad!). However, with all of the talk about the (possible) retheming of Pecos Bill's and the (possibly) growing sense of Frontierland negativity, I'm honestly at a loss for why these are so awful.

Have you seen the cartoon he’s in and how it treats Native Americans?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Between the river and the island, that's a huge chunk of land ripe for revision. I love Tom Sawyer Island, but understand the need to utilize space for the most visitors.

The lawyers really don’t like TSI for several obvious reasons. So, as it is, I’m sure its days are numbered, unfortunately.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Have you seen the cartoon he’s in and how it treats Native Americans?

This, along with just the general idea of western manifest destiny, is not a story the company wants to continue to highlight.

 

[Tha Realest]

But today, cowboy lure is just not something you hear about in kids shows.

Beyoncé is going to change that conversation single-handedly

 

[peng]

Cowboys are in again (mostly because of Old Town Road/Beyonce), so they could pivot some of the redo at least.

 

[Ayla]

Cowboys are in again (mostly because of Old Town Road/Beyonce), so they could pivot some of the redo at least.

No, they aren't.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Any interest Beyoncé might inject into country music will not result in the return of Cowboys & Indians to elementary school recess…as Beyoncé would be first to admit on a trip to WDW, “this ain’t Texas”.

 

[mattpeto]

"But hold your horses, we’re not done yet. We have a lot of growth and investment planned for our theme parks in the coming years and look forward to sharing more announcements about Frontierland … so y’all come back now, ya hear?"

I think Frontierland is not going anywhere...

 

[ToTBellHop]

"But hold your horses, we’re not done yet. We have a lot of growth and investment planned for our theme parks in the coming years and look forward to sharing more announcements about Frontierland … so y’all come back now, ya hear?"

I think Frontierland is not going anywhere...

It’s not. Sometimes people try to accept a rumor before applying the smell test.

They would not be redoing CBJ if the plan were to remove Frontierland. And they would have taken the introduction of TBA to make Frontierland smaller. They opted not to. I‘m sure further adjustments to the land will occur, however, but that’s every land. I’m surprised at how little Frontierland has changed over time, honestly.

 

[Jrb1979]

This is just my take, but I don’t think it’s seen as “awful” so much as dated. If you look at Toy Story, there’s the whole theme about Woody being the older gen toy and today’s kids not really doing the cowboy show thing. I think that’s fairly true. I saw a Disney+ show that talked about the Dave’s Crockett movie and what a phenomenon it was at the time, with every little boy in the US wanting a fur cap. But today, cowboy lure is just not something you hear about in kids shows. (I do think Liberty Square is likely safe as colonial era Americana is still a popular theme.)

Maybe not in kids shows but other parks stil embrace western themed areas. Look at Knotts Berry Farm and Dollywood.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Beyoncé is going to change that conversation single-handedly

Beyoncé headlining Country Bear Jamboree CONFIRMED

 

[Brer Oswald]

Honestly, not sure what he’s implying here. He was talking about a haunted mansion restaurant a few months back maybe it’s that?

I can only imagine the…fun discussions on here if hall goes. I doubt it very much Disney would do that.

I don’t think anything is off the table as far as “replacing classic attractions” goes…besides PotC and HM.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I don’t think anything is off the table as far as “replacing classic attractions” goes…besides PotC and HM.

Jungle Cruise is safe, too.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Jungle Cruise is safe, too.

Pirates, HM, and Jungle Cruise all have guns within the attraction though so ya know...

(just kidding... I hope)

 

[ToTBellHop]

Pirates, HM, and Jungle Cruise all have guns within the attraction though so ya know...

(just kidding... I hope)

The biggest issue among them all is the stretching gallery suicide…that will be gone soon enough. And, while it’s iconic, I also get it.

 

[aladdin2007]

The biggest issue among them all is the stretching gallery suicide…that will be gone soon enough. And, while it’s iconic, I also get it.

Im surprised its still there,,,we can have that but we cant have the howling dog sound effect outside

 

[Brer Oswald]

Jungle Cruise is safe, too.

For now.

 

[GhostHost1000]

The biggest issue among them all is the stretching gallery suicide…that will be gone soon enough. And, while it’s iconic, I also get it.

if they put Beyonce headlining Country Bears as someone mentioned earlier, there's going to be more suicides to worry about lol

 

[peng]

Any interest Beyoncé might inject into country music will not result in the return of Cowboys & Indians to elementary school recess…as Beyoncé would be first to admit on a trip to WDW, “this ain’t Texas”.

Yeah, I meant the idea of cowboys (similar to how sea shanties were popular on tiktok/youtube a couple years back) instead of the cowboys and indians stuff associated with frontierland, that is long dead in the eyes of pop culture and for the most part won't fly today. I meant the cowboy aesthetic, not the cowboys and indians stuff

Pirates, HM, and Jungle Cruise all have guns within the attraction though so ya know...

(just kidding... I hope)

Jungle Cruise is probably safe at this point, it gets good lines and it had its sensitivity redo already, surprised the bit with the gun survived that. Predictions for the other ones are that Frontierland is probably staying in some form, but will probably have part of it cut out for a New Orleans mini land, Tom Sawyer is probably going to get some land cut back (a la the redo it had in DL), Hall of Presidents will probably stay but the show before the presidents are shown off/waiting room will change (the PR from "we added the most recent president" is an easy win), tikis seem to be toast though (personally, I'd drop the song the tikis sing and sing something else, not looking forward to when it happens though).