From the OS: Gator drags child into Seven Seas Lagoon

[Nemo14]

I hope so. Now that you know a few facts instead of assumptions.

I assume you're talking about the facts that Nile crocodiles have been confirmed to have been found in South Florida.

 

[21stamps]

You guys can discuss all things untrue, I just hope anyone reading this reads on to read that it isn't an actual concern.

 

[Lucky]

Ok call me a stupid Boca girl.. But why is it a problem if found north?

Ok wait- because South Florida is sparsely populated?lol

I hope so. Now that you know a few facts instead of assumptions. Funny thing is, you could have found that out as easily as the Nile Croc story. But bothering with knowing things like heavily populated areas doesn't matter if you just want to assume it's empty or sparsely populated land.

Like I said, not knowing facts creates hysteria. Why anyone would want that? I don't know, I can't comprehend it.

You see, if they spread north to Central Florida, they cover a more populated area: South Florida and Central Florida together are more populated than South Florida by itself.

And if they spread to North Florida, they cover an even more populated area: South Florida, Central Florida and North Florida together are also more populated than South Florida by itself.

Do you understand yet?

 

[Nemo14]

You see, if they spread north to Central Florida, they cover a more populated area: South Florida and Central Florida together are more populated than South Florida by itself.

And if they spread to North Florida, they cover an even more populated area: South Florida, Central Florida and North Florida together are also more populated than South Florida by itself.

Do you understand yet?

Let's not confuse things with your new-fangled math, young man!

 

[G00fyDad]

 

[21stamps]

You see, if they spread north to Central Florida, they cover a more populated area: South Florida and Central Florida together are more populated than South Florida by itself.

And if they spread to North Florida, they cover an even more populated area: South Florida, Central Florida and North Florida together are also more populated than South Florida by itself.

Do you understand yet?

QUOTE----
The ancient icon eats everything from zebras to small hippos to humans in sub-Saharan Africa. Now three juveniles of the monster crocodile, have been found in South Florida, swimming in the Everglades and relaxing on a house porch in Miami.

The invasive crocodiles were captured between 2000 and 2014, leading UF scientists to analyze their DNA, study their diet and one of the animal’s growth. Scientists verified the animals were Nile crocodiles linked to native populations in South Africa, and confirmed the species can survive in Florida—and potentially thrive, said Kenneth Krysko, herpetology collections manager at the Florida Museum of Natural History on the UF campus.
.......While there is currently no evidence of an established population, ...............


So because something could.. maybe....possibly happen, we should be concerned with Nile Crocs?

I'm still thrown off because he didn't appear to be talking about this type of crocodile. But if he in fact was, I still don't see the cause for concern. Are you worried about pythons too? These have been a much bigger problem for a much longer amount of time.

 

[flynnibus]

True enough, but you're talking details of plot analysis. It's the as-yet-unresolved emotional arc of the story of this tragedy, and how it conflicts with the distinctively-branded emotional elements of Disney's resort product, that will continue to resonate with the public -- particularly with parents of young children, Disney's core demographic.

Here's what people will take away... DEAD CHILD

What's the worst possible outcome for public perception when everything is finished? Disney's actions LEAD to the dead child.

Well guess what... Disney's actions leading to the death of customers has already happened and a decade later most people don't even know it happened.

So the idea of 'its yet to play out' really doesn't matter. It can't really add much more than the existing cases have already had... and history has proven people forget.

Maybe your Made for TV movie screenplay isn't finished yet... but the gut punch and residuals already are.

There won't be any more deaths by this gator... and the worst possible outcome for Disney (fined, found guilty, civil lawsuits, convictions) have already been demonstrated and forgotten in past cases. Heck, the regulation of the Amusements by CalOSHA is pretty much a direct result of the Disney incidents yet they still aren't even know by the general visiting customer base.

Heck, look at the Monorail accident... that's recent and in the age of social media.. and its already out of everyone's mind.

Sorry... this one will drop from public consciousness very very soon. There isn't any sign of a criminal investigation, there won't be a trial by almost all accounts, and the family just want to be left alone. The only people left to make any noise are the media people themselves.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Let's not confuse things with your new-fangled math, young man!

Or aggressive carnivore....

So many people crying about theIR own selfishness. Gonna bet that Disney is gonna give them something more to cry about....

 

[asianway]

Here's what people will take away... DEAD CHILD

What's the worst possible outcome for public perception when everything is finished? Disney's actions LEAD to the dead child.

Well guess what... Disney's actions leading to the death of customers has already happened and a decade later most people don't even know it happened.

So the idea of 'its yet to play out' really doesn't matter. It can't really add much more than the existing cases have already had... and history has proven people forget.

Maybe your Made for TV movie screenplay isn't finished yet... but the gut punch and residuals already are.

There won't be any more deaths by this gator... and the worst possible outcome for Disney (fined, found guilty, civil lawsuits, convictions) have already been demonstrated and forgotten in past cases. Heck, the regulation of the Amusements by CalOSHA is pretty much a direct result of the Disney incidents yet they still aren't even know by the general visiting customer base.

Heck, look at the Monorail accident... that's recent and in the age of social media.. and its already out of everyone's mind.

Sorry... this one will drop from public consciousness very very soon. There isn't any sign of a criminal investigation, there won't be a trial by almost all accounts, and the family just want to be left alone. The only people left to make any noise are the media people themselves.

The scariest thing is that Disney managed to cover up the Monorail Lime crash and no one batted an eyelash. Makes you wonder if the dad had saved the kid if any of us would have heard more than a whisper.

 

[21stamps]

Or aggressive carnivore....

So many people crying about theIR own selfishness. Gonna bet that Disney is gonna give them something more to cry about....

All of Florida, but especially South Florida, is filled with aggressive animals, bugs, marine life etc. Guess what? We swim, we boat, we dive, we walk and run, jet ski, get dipped by a parasail and much more. You call it "selfish" we call it living life. Try it sometime, it's pretty fun.

Where I live now is almost more scary to me. I, for the first time, have to be worried about deer on the road, coyotes, crazy spiders on my deck, unfamiliar snakes in lakes where I can't see more than 2 inches below the surface.... things that still won't stop me from going kayaking or swimming or hiking etc.

 

[thomas998]

No. No I don't.

I mean crocodiles. Skinnier snout, much more aggressive and a giant problem to humans wherever they live.

They just found a few in the Miami area.

Okay... American Crocodiles aren't up to Orlando and probably never will be, they prefer a warmer climate and saltier water than they would find in Orlando. And they are much more rare and the American Crocodile is and not nearly as big a problem as the alligator. I think you are thinking of the Saltwater Crocodiles from Australia or the African Crocodiles both of which are very aggressive. Their American cousin is not like that.... If it were I think you would have heard of attacks on tourist at Dry Tortuga where they have one that has been around that small island for about a decade but avoids people and from the last report I saw was about 9 feet long... So clearly big enough to cause problems if it wanted to but leery enough of humans not to be.

 

[Nemo14]

Okay... American Crocodiles aren't up to Orlando and probably never will be, they prefer a warmer climate and saltier water than they would find in Orlando. And they are much more rare and the American Crocodile is and not nearly as big a problem as the alligator. I think you are thinking of the Saltwater Crocodiles from Australia or the African Crocodiles both of which are very aggressive. Their American cousin is not like that.... If it were I think you would have heard of attacks on tourist at Dry Tortuga where they have one that has been around that small island for about a decade but avoids people and from the last report I saw was about 9 feet long... So clearly big enough to cause problems if it wanted to but leery enough of humans not to be.

I suggest you read on in the thread to clarify things.

 

[21stamps]

Okay... American Crocodiles aren't up to Orlando and probably never will be, they prefer a warmer climate and saltier water than they would find in Orlando. And they are much more rare and the American Crocodile is and not nearly as big a problem as the alligator. I think you are thinking of the Saltwater Crocodiles from Australia or the African Crocodiles both of which are very aggressive. Their American cousin is not like that.... If it were I think you would have heard of attacks on tourist at Dry Tortuga where they have one that has been around that small island for about a decade but avoids people and from the last report I saw was about 9 feet long... So clearly big enough to cause problems if it wanted to but leery enough of humans not to be.

Oh please, don't get him reading tabloids about the Keys or Dry Tortugas!!! Next thing he'll be calling for the Yankee Freedom to be put in a graveyard.

But btw- apparently he was talking about a Nile Crocodile.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Okay... American Crocodiles aren't up to Orlando and probably never will be, they prefer a warmer climate and saltier water than they would find in Orlando. And they are much more rare and the American Crocodile is and not nearly as big a problem as the alligator. I think you are thinking of the Saltwater Crocodiles from Australia or the African Crocodiles both of which are very aggressive. Their American cousin is not like that.... If it were I think you would have heard of attacks on tourist at Dry Tortuga where they have one that has been around that small island for about a decade but avoids people and from the last report I saw was about 9 feet long... So clearly big enough to cause problems if it wanted to but leery enough of humans not to be.

I hope FWC agrees.....

 

[21stamps]

I hope FWC agrees.....

I think you're confused. An American Crocodile can't survive up there. There's no "agreeing". SoFla (please refer to map) is a Tropical Climate, Central and Northern Florida are not. That's why even SoFla plants, trees, flowers, even bugs are different.

 

[Nemo14]

I think you're confused. An American Crocodile can't survive up there. There's no "agreeing". SoFla (please refer to map) is a Tropical Climate, Central and Northern Florida are not. That's why even SoFla plants, trees, flowers, even bugs are different.

and residents, apparently.

 

[The Mom]

I mean Crocodiles. Those really nasty ones that live along the Nile River in Egypt, Australia, and now apparently Miami.

Sorry - I can see that's what you wrote. I've been reading too much about Alligators lately.

And this is what you mean - not the American Crocodile that has been around for ages. You mean the NILE crocodile, and this is new.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/21/us/nile-crocodiles-florida-irpt/index.html

 

[PhotoDave219]

If there were any more companion in this thread, they'd be complaining about coming back from Shanghai early....

 

[PhotoDave219]

Sorry - I can see that's what you wrote. I've been reading too much about Alligators lately.

Yeah, all good.

People don't get that alligators are docile by comparison....

 

[The Mom]

Yeah, all good.

People don't get that alligators are docile by comparison....

Yes, they aren't known as "Man Eating Crocodiles" for no reason. They will definitely attack humans - including adults, and will do it in the daytime.