From the OS: Gator drags child into Seven Seas Lagoon

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thomas998

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Yeah, all good.

People don't get that alligators are docile by comparison....
Docile compared to some crocodiles but not compared to American crocodiles... And I have no clue why people would be talking about Nile crocodiles. I think their have only been 2 or 3 ever found in Florida and they were escapees from some zoo or place like that... If we are now going to start worrying about every exotic animal on the planet regardless of whether it is even a threat then lets pounder whether a sea snake could be problem or not.
 

jaklgreen

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You are seriously trying to turn this into an argument again please stop. Everyone knows gators are in Florida, but most from out of state don't know that there are gators in a lake in WDW. Why do you feel a need to not accept that?

I think people get that. We know people do not assume there are gators at WDW. How is that Disney's fault. Even the official website for Florida tourists does not say anything about alligators, at least not that I could find. I don't know of any hotel or resort that says one word about "stay away from the water because of gators". Never at Universal Studios or any off site hotel have I ever been warned about gators in the water. Are we saying that WDW property is the only place there are alligators, that it is such an unusual thing to have a gator around that Disney should have told everyone this that there are gators there? Isn't there just as much of a chance of coming across one in the water ways of Universal or pretty much anywhere in Florida. Why isn't the state warning all tourists? Because this was a freak accident with an opportunistic alligator.
 

flynnibus

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Are we saying that WDW property is the only place there are alligators, that it is such an unusual thing to have a gator around that Disney should have told everyone this that there are gators there? Isn't there just as much of a chance of coming across one in the water ways of Universal or pretty much anywhere in Florida. Why isn't the state warning all tourists? Because this was a freak accident with an opportunistic alligator.

Shockingly no one has taken up my offer to relocate to Florida to sue all those negligent Golf Courses and HOAs that haven't made their property alligator proof, alligator free, and haven't posted signs warning everyone of the threats lurking off the beaten path.
 

PhotoDave219

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Docile compared to some crocodiles but not compared to American crocodiles... And I have no clue why people would be talking about Nile crocodiles. I think their have only been 2 or 3 ever found in Florida and they were escapees from some zoo or place like that... If we are now going to start worrying about every exotic animal on the planet regardless of whether it is even a threat then lets pounder whether a sea snake could be problem or not.

Because I was wondering if the American (or Nile) crocodile had migrated north into central Florida....
 

21stamps

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Shockingly no one has taken up my offer to relocate to Florida to sue all those negligent Golf Courses and HOAs that haven't made their property alligator proof, alligator free, and haven't posted signs warning everyone of the threats lurking off the beaten path.
Nor my suggestion of petitioning Tallahassee to change the law. Because it doesn't need to be changed.

@jaklgreen I meant to quote your post. I wish there was a love emoji for it!


Docile compared to some crocodiles but not compared to American crocodiles... And I have no clue why people would be talking about Nile crocodiles. I think their have only been 2 or 3 ever found in Florida and they were escapees from some zoo or place like that... If we are now going to start worrying about every exotic animal on the planet regardless of whether it is even a threat then lets pounder whether a sea snake could be problem or not.
Me either. But apparently that's what we should have automatically assumed.


and residents, apparently. :hilarious:
Yes, we are. The same way that someone from upstate NY is probably very different from people in NYC. Etc. Even within our regions people are different depending on what city they live in. As is the case most places I think. Here is an excerpt from a news article in 2014 when SoFla wanted to separate from the rest of the state..lol.
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Asking a Floridian (full disclosure: I am one) to describe the differences between South Florida and North Florida is a bit like asking a layman to explain gravity: You know it exists, but you couldn't adequately explain it if tasked to.
Generally speaking, the two areas are just geographically, culturally and politically different."

That doesn't mean they are going to separate or anyone needs to be worried about it. It's just a very true statement that a lot of people outside of Florida don't realize. It's a big state and it's areas are all vastly different. One tiny example- Gators are everywhere. Crocs are not.

Bottom line- Just don't be afraid of these rare things you read about, crocs, gator attacks, snakes whatever. They are much more sensationalized than they are an actual threat.
 
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EngineJoe

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Docile compared to some crocodiles but not compared to American crocodiles... And I have no clue why people would be talking about Nile crocodiles. I think their have only been 2 or 3 ever found in Florida and they were escapees from some zoo or place like that... If we are now going to start worrying about every exotic animal on the planet regardless of whether it is even a threat then lets pounder whether a sea snake could be problem or not.

Yeti, lochness monster and big foot better be on those signs or it's an outrage.
 

GoofGoof

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I hope they do the same for aggressive snakes.
The signs will warn of snakes too. I don't know if there are plans to remove them, but I would think there would be.

Edit: here is a picture of the sign up with the temporary fences. Not sure if it will be the permanent sign or if they will fine tune the wording or pictures.
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GoofGoof

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I think you're confused. An American Crocodile can't survive up there. There's no "agreeing". SoFla (please refer to map) is a Tropical Climate, Central and Northern Florida are not. That's why even SoFla plants, trees, flowers, even bugs are different.
I don't know if it matters to you, but I'm pretty sure Dave has you on ignore. He can't see what you are posting. It's probably why he hasn't replied to any of your posts.
 

ULPO46

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I have to disagree about how far people will come from in the States, we came from a midwest state in my early 20's, now we come from the Rockies. Neither are near Georgia. I have friends and family who go every year from California. I know one person who comes several times from Mexico.
I meant to the small real springs, not the artificial one Disney made. People come to Florida from far and wide but they never visit it's state parks or national parks unless they are into that kind of stuff. I mean this in the statistical point of view. I had to write a thesis in college about the sites people visit most in the state and the ones that always came to the bottom where always the natural parks created by billions of years of nature. Places like the everglades, blue springs, Okeechobee, Osceola Forest, Ocala National Forest and the Kissimee Prarie just to name a few. If at all this tragic event will make people want to see these things in their natural habitats and I hope it boost the economy of people like my home tribe of the Seminole or the Miccosukee down in south florida whom call the everglades home and rely on tourist dollars.
 

21stamps

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I meant to the small real springs, not the artificial one Disney made. People come to Florida from far and wide but they never visit it's state parks or national parks unless they are into that kind of stuff. I mean this in the statistical point of view. I had to write a thesis in college about the sites people visit most in the state and the ones that always came to the bottom where always the natural parks created by billions of years of nature. Places like the everglades, blue springs, Okeechobee, Osceola Forest, Ocala National Forest and the Kissimee Prarie just to name a few. If at all this tragic event will make people want to see these things in their natural habitats and I hope it boost the economy of people like my home tribe of the Seminole or the Miccosukee down in south florida whom call the everglades home and rely on tourist dollars.
I agree. Although when I think of Seminoles now I cringe ;) They took all my money!!!!lol

Lake Okeechobee is such a cool place to visit, but I admit to being too chicken to camp there.

You're right though, hopefully people now people will want to learn more about Fl wildlife, and maybe explore some more.
 

21stamps

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Take some risks! Live life!
I'm more comfortable with my beloved sea creatures. I'd rather be night diving than camping in Fl. Some people are opposite. To each their own :).

Just because there's been so much confusion on this thread, I feel like I should specify. An Ocean Night Dive. Not a freshwater one.lol
 
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