FP+ meltdown part x

JediMasterMatt

Well-Known Member
I'll bet your friend has had the premier pass for a while, I think that Premier Passes which predate FP seem to have 'issues' with FP and from an IT CM i've learned that they are on a completely separate computer system which manages this ticket media.

This is correct. The new Premier Passports have "fixed" the issue with getting them added to MM+. The older cards did exist in a dataset that they didn't incorporate into their planning and if you were like me, last year... you got to spend multiple hours on the phone with IT support. Our new cards did not have any problems in getting linked this year.

Here's my summary of our technical issues with MM+/MyDisneyExperience since going live last year:

It's unfortunate to see that I haven't been the only one bitten by this particular issue of FP+ reservations being lost. Over the last year, I hate to admit that I've spent over 5 hours on the phone with technical support with issues with MM+/FP+/MyDisneyExperience. I'm a firm believer in you either try to help fix the problem or you don't have a right complaining, so that's why I've tried to get these issues resolved. What I've discovered is there is a fundamental flaw in MM+ that shouldn't be there - there is no defect handling.

I've currently got an email off to the management types about our experiences; but, in a nutshell - here's the Reader's Digest version:

- Last October, I tried to get our Premier Passports linked up to MyDisneyExperience prior to a trip and found out that the Premier Passes were in some sort of "nether" world that the programmers hadn't accounted for. This lead to two separate 2.5hr phone calls to get my wife and mine added so we could start making FP+ selections. Eventually, it took some manual data entry to get this particular bug resolved.

- Tried to purchase X-mas party tickets online and get the annual passholder discount only to find that even after the issue above was fixed and our Premier Passes were linked to MyDisneyExperience, they weren't connected to the discount system. Eventually, they had to manually process our tickets.

- After hitting the window to make FP+ selections, I log into MyDisneyExperience to start the process. The first part of the process is to select the members of your group, so I selected my wife and myself. I then proceeded to go from day-to-day for the entire trip and made the selections. A couple of days before departing, I wanted to make calendar appointments in my email for all the reservations only to find out on one day in the middle of our trip, my wife was dropped off. Even though I made all the selections at the same time, it didn't add her for one random day in the middle of all the other times. I called Disney and again go transferred over to technical support only to find out that there was NOTHING they could do to add my wife into the time slots I had already selected. They best they could do was cancel my FP+ times and offer us whatever was currently available. I explained that it wasn't an acceptable solution as exchanging a reservation for something like Soarin' for Imagination wasn't an acceptable remediation. Ultimately, the solution that tech support offered to me was to just show up at the attraction and explain the situation to Cast Member and they would let her ride.

- A week ago, I tried to make a dining reservation. Found a timeslot for one of our favorite restaurants after checking each day for over a month. We selected the time, logged into MyDisneyExperience and started the check out process. My wife noticed that the credit card on file was from last year, so she needed to update it. Tried to add it and got an error saying "there was a problem in updating the card." It said try again, which failed, or call WDW-DINE. We call and they try to help, by seeing if the time slot is open - which it isn't because we are in the process of trying to check out with it. The reservations people can't help since the time is still open and we are reluctant to close our browser or else we would lose the slot. They transfer us to tech support and over the next hour they try to explain that someone else has already taken our time. I assure them that my browser session is still open as it prompts me to click a button or else it will time out. I also explain that using a different PC, I can see where the card DID get added successfully and the issue seems to be that trying to make a reservation and changing in your card in the same transaction seem to be flawed. One of their managers explains that they don't have anyway to get "in progress" transactions and override them. Ultimately, they told us to close our browser and they would try to swoop in and grab the reservation. When it didn't pop back up immediately, they took our contact information and would try to contact the restaurant in question and try to get an override. About 4 minutes after we closed our browser window and about 1 minute after getting off the phone, I tried to pull up the availability for the restaurant and found our original time was available. Since our credit card did update (contrary to the error before) we were able to make the reservation this time.

I've tried to go to WDW twice since MM+ went online fully and as you can see, we've had to spend a lot of time trying to resolve issues. The one thing that jumps out at me (as an IT executive) is that a system as complex as MM+ is bound to have errors/defects. Therefore, the system needs to have defect handling built in and after my interactions with tech support - they don't have anyway to override the system to resolve errors. Everything in MM+, from a technological perspective has to go through the "front door". Have an issue with FP+ times, they best MM+ can do is cancel your appointments and offer you whatever is available. Have a tech problem with a dining reservation, the best that the MM+ system can do is see what is currently open.

My IT background really makes me wonder what sort of methodology Disney is following (if any) in their MM+ endeavors (ITIL, Six Sigma, etc.) because in each of my contacts with tech support, nobody was interested in the chance to capture data about the issue. Nobody asked questions about what web browser was being used, what operating system, etc. Disney was losing every chance at data collection for process improvement.

When you have a complex system, that will have defects, and that system has no methods of handling those defects, and then you compound those problems with the lack of effort to try to learn from those defects - you get exactly the mess that Disney is currently in when it comes to MM+.

As an IT professional this concerns me.

As a Disney Parks fan, this enrages me. MM+ is a heartless automaton that is taking away the greatest strength the Disney Parks empire was founded on - providing world class customer service. Cast Members are crippled in their ability to help guests when it comes to dealing with the technical shortfalls of MM+. This is the greatest harm all this technology is causing.

I still have not gotten a response to the email I sent other than that they will get back with me.
 

ChrisM

Well-Known Member
I took advantage of this bug. And then.....

For those saying fp+ is simple. I gotta take issue. The idea of FP+ is simple, the reality is anything but.

I am traveling with a large group. We are all linked in the system. The lead planner made FP+ for the whole group. I tried to change a couple for just my wife and I. Total chaos reigned. FP disappearing and reappearing for random party members. Try and change one, but the ride I wanted wasn't available in that window, but you can't cancel just one, you need to cancel all. Can't do that, bc we want to join the group for some experiences. It's just a huge headache that I don't need a month before my trip.

Also, I have no FP for the Mine Train. So a month out, I already know I won't get on it. It's patently ridiculous.

I had the exact opposite experience.

I was at WDW last week with a group of 8 (6 adults, 2 children). We all got down there with the same slate of FP+ reservations but proceeded to slice and dice the hell out of them by parties of 2's and 3's throughout the week on the iOS app without a single issue.

Based on the constant kvetching I read here I was expecting disaster and was pretty surprised it was anything but.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Hmm didn't know this was what constituted as a meltdown. In Sept I held FP for TT and Soarin at the same times and also Rock n Roller and TSMM

FP+ has its issues but ease of using (especially the kiosk) is not one of them. Let's not confuse ease of use with "Im upset I cannot get the time I want so therefore this system is convoluted and a waste of time". Two different things.
Disagree completely.

Try dealing with FP+ as part of a large group. It's a pita.

I don't care what time I get the attraction I want. What I said was, I have no way of getting the ride I want. Unless I cancel all my FPs with my travel party. Which I can't do. Obviously.
So you're unwilling to wait in line for it?

We're heading down in two weeks for our first trip with FP+. So far the only snafu is that one member of our group dragged his feet despite my urging and didn't buy his park ticket until well inside the 30-day window. I was able to copy all FP+ except Seven Dwarfs. I'll keep trying, but we're aware that either he won't ride with us using FP+, or we'll all have to wait in the Standby line. We're not too worked up about it.

-Rob

Correct. I'm not willing to wait standby. I don't ride many things standby. There is a limit to how long I feel I can reasonably handle waiting for an attraction.

I just don't like the added steps, the complication, and the bugginess.

I'm happy for you that you had such a flawless experience. I'm not though.
 

hopemax

Well-Known Member
I'll bet your friend has had the premier pass for a while, I think that Premier Passes which predate FP seem to have 'issues' with FP and from an IT CM i've learned that they are on a completely separate computer system which manages this ticket media.

She got in in August. She's had a DL AP for awhile, but was coming to WDW twice, in the latter part of the year. So she upgraded it.
 

JillC LI

Well-Known Member
Why should anyone have to read up on anything when they go on vacation? It should be pay money, walk in, have fun, eat too much, and leave exhausted.

Seriously? Would you travel to Europe without reading up on what sights to see? Or go on a cruise without reading up on the excursions? Or go on ANY trip without reading up on the highlights not to be missed? WDW isn't any different. Read up in advance on the how-tos for the best experience possible on your vacation.

Because vacation by definition means to get away.

Yes, get away. But make the most of it by being knowledgable.

As to the OP, I hope such a "meltdown" happens during my next trip! LOL
 

GymLeaderPhil

Well-Known Member
Seamless and easy process? Let's do a choose your own abject failure or adventure with MyMagic+!

Chapter One - Purchasing Tickets and Linking

Is English a language you are able to comprehend?
  • Yes? Great - you might want to be sitting down and allow yourself a lot of time to pre-engage to make all those fantastic FastPass+ plans! CONTINUE.
  • 何? Oh boy. Yeah, you're going to need to call and wait on hold for awhile so we can better assist you and then call a translator so we can explain all of the requirements below. Hopefully international calls don't cost too much where you're from and there's not too much of a time difference. THE END.
Have you purchased tickets or a package directly from Disney online, in person or on the phone?
  • No, I was going to wait till I got there like I've done forever. Oh, about that... THE END.
  • No, they're from a third party. Good luck waiting for them to arrive in the mail, waiting until arrival to make your selections, or spending a lot of time on the phone with the place you booked them from or your travel agency to get a code for the website. Have fun at the in-park kiosks with the foreigners. THE END.
  • I tried online. They can't do more than one gift card/form of payment and I have twenty. Congratulations, you get to call Disney directly, wait a ridiculous amount of time, and transcribe all sixteen digits of each card over the phone. THE END.
  • I tried online, but never received my tickets that I printed at home and never got a email confirmation! Yeah, those print at home tickets are hit and miss sometimes. Nobody you'll talk to over the phone even has any ounce of input or connection to the IT guys who Disney contracted and/or fired to redesign the website. Sorry. THE END.
  • Oops. I bought tickets for Disneyland instead. REFUND AND RESTART.
  • Yes, I may have spent more money, but it's the price to pay in order to ride Toy Story Midway Mania. CONTINUE.
Great. Is this a new purchase or was this an existing ticket from a previous vacation?
  • Existing. How old are these? Well, um, the website might be able to link them if there's a barcode or a magnetic stripe. Or a code. Or several codes. You'll need to enter these long codes one at a time. That may have been partially obscured or damaged over the years and now won't work. THE END.
  • My tickets have letters on them OR I have a ton of stamp and hole punch spots left. Well, (how to spin this...) as a valued return Guest to the Walt Disney World Resort (but very infrequent or someone who tends to misplace things) we're going to ask you to wait in a long line at the Guest Relations window to have your ticket converted first before making any FastPass+ plans. THE END.
  • Yes, they're brand new. Great. Thanks for recently increasing our profits. We sure do need it with all of these exciting new enhancements. (NOTE: Enhancements in this context has a positive connotation. See below for Walt Disney World's approved negative usage of the word.) CONTINUE.
Chapter Two - Making Reservations

Fantastic. So I'm assuming you're the atypical family demographic that justified the design of the MyMagic+ program based on our own in-house market research *COUGH* skewed *COUGH*?

  • Yep, we're the Jones family. I'm David and then there's Sally my wife, Susie my daughter, and Davie my son. You're just the people we built and tested the system for. Can't wait to get started with all those fantastic plans you have. CONTINUE.
  • Sorta. We're traveling for a family reunion with four other parties, with their own room reservations and their own My Disney Experience accounts. Some of us have Annual Passes, some have Magic Your Way tickets, and some are going to be upgrading their Disneyland Annual Passes to the Premiere Passports when they arrive. Oh and did I mention that since we have such a vast difference in age, some people won't be doing the same FastPass+ selections at the same time? Oh. THE END.
  • We're a tour/youth/sports/convention group and... I'm going to stop you right there. THE END.
Magical. So are you within your window to make FastPass+ selections?
  • Yes. I've been up all night, drinking coffee and Red Bull, waiting for the FastPass+ inventory to be released based on my TouringPlans.com ideal selections, my dining reservations that I made 180 days out for every character meal on property with my dining plan, and I also have a Pirates League reservation that I cannot modify, because it's the most crucial part of my four year old child existence. I can't wait to fire up Microsoft Excel and my laminator for my itinerary. Intense. CONTINUE.
  • Well, I'm an Annual Passholder trying to make reservations for my trip in the future, but by then my pass will be expired - HOWEVER I'm unable to renew because I'm not within my renewal window and I can't do it online! Well... THE END.
  • What the hell are you talking about? I'm going tomorrow! Great, great. There's so many new FastPass+ experiences to choose from. During your Thanksgiving week visit. THE END.
So great. You'll now be able to select one experience from the first tier and then up to two from another. Have I told you about additional FastPass+ after that?
  • Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down. What are you talking about? It's okay. We're just making this stuff up as we go. After all, we're still testing it. So it will probably change to drastically affect your pre-planning once you're here. But here's a MagicBand with your choice of color! CONTINUE?
Oh no. You said Donald Duck or Olaf has shown up on our website and that Woody won't let you proceed to the next page?
  • So what should I do? Looks like our website is going through some enhancements. Check back later. Please stop crying. THE END.
  • That's it. I've had it. I want a refund. Unfortunately our tickets are non-refundable. THE END.
 

dadddio

Well-Known Member
Seamless and easy process? Let's do a choose your own abject failure or adventure with MyMagic+!

Chapter One - Purchasing Tickets and Linking

Is English a language you are able to comprehend?
  • Yes? Great - you might want to be sitting down and allow yourself a lot of time to pre-engage to make all those fantastic FastPass+ plans! CONTINUE.
  • 何? Oh boy. Yeah, you're going to need to call and wait on hold for awhile so we can better assist you and then call a translator so we can explain all of the requirements below. Hopefully international calls don't cost too much where you're from and there's not too much of a time difference. THE END.
Have you purchased tickets or a package directly from Disney online, in person or on the phone?
  • No, I was going to wait till I got there like I've done forever. Oh, about that... THE END.
  • No, they're from a third party. Good luck waiting for them to arrive in the mail, waiting until arrival to make your selections, or spending a lot of time on the phone with the place you booked them from or your travel agency to get a code for the website. Have fun at the in-park kiosks with the foreigners. THE END.
  • I tried online. They can't do more than one gift card/form of payment and I have twenty. Congratulations, you get to call Disney directly, wait a ridiculous amount of time, and transcribe all sixteen digits of each card over the phone. THE END.
  • I tried online, but never received my tickets that I printed at home and never got a email confirmation! Yeah, those print at home tickets are hit and miss sometimes. Nobody you'll talk to over the phone even has any ounce of input or connection to the IT guys who Disney contracted and/or fired to redesign the website. Sorry. THE END.
  • Oops. I bought tickets for Disneyland instead. REFUND AND RESTART.
  • Yes, I may have spent more money, but it's the price to pay in order to ride Toy Story Midway Mania. CONTINUE.
Great. Is this a new purchase or was this an existing ticket from a previous vacation?
  • Existing. How old are these? Well, um, the website might be able to link them if there's a barcode or a magnetic stripe. Or a code. Or several codes. You'll need to enter these long codes one at a time. That may have been partially obscured or damaged over the years and now won't work. THE END.
  • My tickets have letters on them OR I have a ton of stamp and hole punch spots left. Well, (how to spin this...) as a valued return Guest to the Walt Disney World Resort (but very infrequent or someone who tends to misplace things) we're going to ask you to wait in a long line at the Guest Relations window to have your ticket converted first before making any FastPass+ plans. THE END.
  • Yes, they're brand new. Great. Thanks for recently increasing our profits. We sure do need it with all of these exciting new enhancements. (NOTE: Enhancements in this context has a positive connotation. See below for Walt Disney World's approved negative usage of the word.) CONTINUE.
Chapter Two - Making Reservations

Fantastic. So I'm assuming you're the atypical family demographic that justified the design of the MyMagic+ program based on our own in-house market research *COUGH* skewed *COUGH*?

  • Yep, we're the Jones family. I'm David and then there's Sally my wife, Susie my daughter, and Davie my son. You're just the people we built and tested the system for. Can't wait to get started with all those fantastic plans you have. CONTINUE.
  • Sorta. We're traveling for a family reunion with four other parties, with their own room reservations and their own My Disney Experience accounts. Some of us have Annual Passes, some have Magic Your Way tickets, and some are going to be upgrading their Disneyland Annual Passes to the Premiere Passports when they arrive. Oh and did I mention that since we have such a vast difference in age, some people won't be doing the same FastPass+ selections at the same time? Oh. THE END.
  • We're a tour/youth/sports/convention group and... I'm going to stop you right there. THE END.
Magical. So are you within your window to make FastPass+ selections?
  • Yes. I've been up all night, drinking coffee and Red Bull, waiting for the FastPass+ inventory to be released based on my TouringPlans.com ideal selections, my dining reservations that I made 180 days out for every character meal on property with my dining plan, and I also have a Pirates League reservation that I cannot modify, because it's the most crucial part of my four year old child existence. I can't wait to fire up Microsoft Excel and my laminator for my itinerary. Intense. CONTINUE.
  • Well, I'm an Annual Passholder trying to make reservations for my trip in the future, but by then my pass will be expired - HOWEVER I'm unable to renew because I'm not within my renewal window and I can't do it online! Well... THE END.
  • What the hell are you talking about? I'm going tomorrow! Great, great. There's so many new FastPass+ experiences to choose from. During your Thanksgiving week visit. THE END.
So great. You'll now be able to select one experience from the first tier and then up to two from another. Have I told you about additional FastPass+ after that?
  • Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down. What are you talking about? It's okay. We're just making this stuff up as we go. After all, we're still testing it. So it will probably change to drastically affect your pre-planning once you're here. But here's a MagicBand with your choice of color! CONTINUE?
Oh no. You said Donald Duck or Olaf has shown up on our website and that Woody won't let you proceed to the next page?
  • So what should I do? Looks like our website is going through some enhancements. Check back later. Please stop crying. THE END.
  • That's it. I've had it. I want a refund. Unfortunately our tickets are non-refundable. THE END.
Interesting skew.

Actually, your post reminds me of the dialog that a number of people have described when discussing how very difficult the new system is and how impossible it is to explain. My thinking is that if you start out with a failure mindset, then you get a failure result.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
As if. That's how it sold. Reality is very different.

I had to book our whole parties tickets. Two members didn't have a clue and two members couldn't be bothered with the hassle as opposed to the legacy system, which they both prefer.

And that was without reservations disappearing and the system crashing on more than one occasion.

One issue I have is that my MIL and FIL aren't computer users and don't have smart phones. Getting them to create an MDE account was the big step. To give you an idea what I'm talking about, I introduced them to a flash drive 3 weeks ago. They were amazed.
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
I took advantage of this bug. And then.....

For those saying fp+ is simple. I gotta take issue. The idea of FP+ is simple, the reality is anything but.

I am traveling with a large group. We are all linked in the system. The lead planner made FP+ for the whole group. I tried to change a couple for just my wife and I. Total chaos reigned. FP disappearing and reappearing for random party members. Try and change one, but the ride I wanted wasn't available in that window, but you can't cancel just one, you need to cancel all. Can't do that, bc we want to join the group for some experiences. It's just a huge headache that I don't need a month before my trip.

Also, I have no FP for the Mine Train. So a month out, I already know I won't get on it. It's patently ridiculous.

I've gone with large groups where we've all been linked together and small groups (just my family of 4 and with @sshindel ). Definitely, A LOT smoother with small groups. When Scott and I met some board members during the ToT ten miler weekend, it worked well because everyone just tried to get similar fps for the same rides with time windows that overlapped. When the whole group is synced together and then little subgroups want to do something different than the main group, it is a huge headache. However, nothing compares with our first experience when my wife got two magicbands and was double booked in the room (turns out she had two Disney accounts with the two common versions of her first name one of which was 15 years old) and my magic band wouldn't do anything even though I was the one that booked the whole vacation. Took two hours to straighten out and at the time I almost despaired because there were multiple points where it seemed they were going to tell me the problem was unresolvable. I've also had trips when the MBs have been flawless, so I can see both sides. In the big picture, I'm really, really curious if this will be the big financial boon they were anticipating and if we, the WDW aficionados, will ever know the real scoop.
 

rioriz

Well-Known Member
Disagree completely.

Try dealing with FP+ as part of a large group. It's a pita.

I don't care what time I get the attraction I want. What I said was, I have no way of getting the ride I want. Unless I cancel all my FPs with my travel party. Which I can't do. Obviously.
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Can you explain more because I went with a party of four....two of us wanted to change our fastpasses to another attraction. We were able to pick the ones we wanted to delete, replace them. and no problem at all splitting from the group...
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
I took advantage of this bug. And then.....

For those saying fp+ is simple. I gotta take issue. The idea of FP+ is simple, the reality is anything but.

I'm so confused by whether it's the best thing Disney have done or a total disaster. I didn't even use it on my most recent trip, I just went to a kiosk and tried to book a Fastpass same day for a previously no-wait ride, but it was so much hassle I didn't bother, but all around me I saw people struggling, plus all waits were far longer, so for me MyMagic sucks big time.

And yet I come on here, and see many reviews on other sites, where people think it's the best thing ever and can't get enough of it. So just when I think I must be wrong, and the suits at Disney really are geniuses for spending a billion dollars on this, I see a few posts like the ones in this thread that match my experience.

How can one system be perceived so differently by different people?
 
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BrerJon

Well-Known Member
Seamless and easy process? Let's do a choose your own abject failure or adventure with MyMagic+!

Excellent! Sums things up perfectly, post of the day.

I suspect that most of the people who are pleased with this use of a billion dollars are those that fit into the 'ideal family' pigeonhole - any other guest has to jump through hoops or one sort or another that make life more complicated and lines for the things they don't have Fastpasses for far longer than they used to be.
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
I've gone with large groups where we've all been linked together and small groups (just my family of 4 and with @sshindel ). Definitely, A LOT smoother with small groups. When Scott and I met some board members during the ToT ten miler weekend, it worked well because everyone just tried to get similar fps for the same rides with time windows that overlapped.

Old system: No matter what combo your group is, or who wants to ride what, someone can gather up the tickets for everyone who wants to ride, go to Thunder Mountain or wherever and stick them in the machine, brings the tickets and Fastpasses back, time taken, 15 minutes, time in line using the Fastpass 20 minutes. Total = 35 minutes.

New system: Chaos reigns, at least an hour to book things and sort out problems. But hey, you save ten minutes on a shorter Fastpass line, and there's less to do in the parks because Disney blew all their money on the system.

To me the mathematics of the new system just doesn't work. People claim it saves them time, but...

If in a day you do 5 attractions with a 30 minute wait and 3 with a 20 minute Fastpass in the old system, but now those 5 attractions have a 45 minute standby wait, but those Fastpass+ get you in within ten minutes... you've still spent an hour or so more of your day in a line, and that's ignoring that getting a Fastpass from a kiosk takes *at least* 10 times longer than sticking your card in and getting a paper Fastpass spat out, so if you don't want to set up a MyDisneySnooper account that's even more time.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
Old system: No matter what combo your group is, or who wants to ride what, someone can gather up the tickets for everyone who wants to ride, go to Thunder Mountain or wherever and stick them in the machine, brings the tickets and Fastpasses back, time taken, 15 minutes, time in line using the Fastpass 20 minutes. Total = 35 minutes.

New system: Chaos reigns, at least an hour to book things and sort out problems. But hey, you save ten minutes on a shorter Fastpass line, and there's less to do in the parks because Disney blew all their money on the system.

To me the mathematics of the new system just doesn't work. People claim it saves them time, but...

If in a day you do 5 attractions with a 30 minute wait and 3 with a 20 minute Fastpass in the old system, but now those 5 attractions have a 45 minute standby wait, but those Fastpass+ get you in within ten minutes... you've still spent an hour or so more of your day in a line, and that's ignoring that getting a Fastpass from a kiosk takes *at least* 10 times longer than sticking your card in and getting a paper Fastpass spat out, so if you don't want to set up a MyDisneySnooper account that's even more time.
Maybe instead of the kiosks they should've kept the old Fastpass machines by the rides and made it so that you scan your band, pick an available time then boom. You have your Fastpass.
I think most people don't care if they get on rides, they can always just go and have something to eat at Be Our Guest.

Oh...
Lol, good one.
 

Victor Kelly

Well-Known Member
Ah yes, profiles, corrupted profiles, computers.......

Anyone ever really believe any computer operating system will not crash? And why are we betting people's vacations on a computer system to help them run through the parks in glee? Because it is not gonna happen. People are going to go in and anticipate every thing running right only to be disappointed that "oh sorry the system is down, everything you have planned is gone, please start over." Nobody should have to spend hours getting their profile fixed from the Disney IT help desk while on vacation!

I am not sure about the rest of you but my time is precious on vacation.


Isn't technology wonderful?
It is, actually. It's the inane people that are clueless regarding how to integrate it properly who are the problem.

Wrong, it is making something that was very simple into something complicated. We lived many years without fastpass, cell phones, smart phones etc. In fact it is the dumbing down of the US that is the problem.
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
Ah yes, profiles, corrupted profiles, computers.......

Wrong, it is making something that was very simple into something complicated. We lived many years without fastpass, cell phones, smart phones etc. In fact it is the dumbing down of the US that is the problem.

Dumbing down? Dumbing down? You need a *Phd* to understand the various combinations of rules regarding Fastpass+ and MagicBands!
 

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